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surprise in a box and a hoover 507 (pics)
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Post# 133557   4/22/2011 at 06:00 (4,694 days old) by edgar (Belgium)        

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Today I got a box. When I opened it, there was a beautiful hoover 507. I think it is complete, but I am not that into hoover to know for sure. When I got the complete hoover out of the box there was a strange mix of left over atachments on the bottum that is did not know about. A Volta hose with tubes, a hose of an bluevac wich means nothing to me, and surprise surprise a brand new swiveltop sparepart for an GE still in the original plastic. Can anybody tell me if the hoover is complete?

greetz Edgar


Post# 133558 , Reply# 1   4/22/2011 at 06:02 (4,694 days old) by edgar (Belgium)        
GE swivel

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It is a beige one

Post# 133559 , Reply# 2   4/22/2011 at 06:03 (4,694 days old) by edgar (Belgium)        
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Post# 133560 , Reply# 3   4/22/2011 at 06:48 (4,694 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Lucky boy

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Edgar

What a wonderful find :) Hoover 507s are quite rare and yours looks to be a fairly early edition with the very first style flip over nozzle, and the turbo brush too. It looks like it will clean up nicely and will be a great addition to your collection . This is a pic from when it was introduced, now all you need is the curtains to go with it, the knitted dress is optional LOLOLOL :)

Al


Post# 133561 , Reply# 4   4/22/2011 at 06:58 (4,694 days old) by kenkart ()        
I Have!

Never even HEARD of this Hoover!! Love the look of it, I wish more of the European machines would make it across the pond!!

Post# 133583 , Reply# 5   4/22/2011 at 09:39 (4,694 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Evolution

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For American and Canadian members this cleaner is a direct descendant of the oover Model 50 or perhaps the model 40 wwould be more correct. The 40 came over here in 1948 as the model 402, similar to the 40 but with a handle more reminscient of the 50. This then develiped into the 41 series (415 Canada and the 417 UK) In around 1963/64, whilst the 417 continued alongside teh Connie, a rather larger version the 419 was indroduced, but similar in styling with a rigid handle. This was for several years Hoover UK TOL model available is several different colours, and actually roughly equivalent to the Lux 65 (the pink Lux recently featured on a thread) and at the time of the 419 introduction the Lux UK TOL.

Not long after though Electrolux created a new and significantally better TOL model, the 90 - later 100. It took Hoover about 5 years to match the Lux 90/100 and this was it - the 507, also known as the Conquest.

This picture, from the same brochure shows the rest of the model line, and teh evelution can be clearly seen.


Post# 133585 , Reply# 6   4/22/2011 at 09:45 (4,694 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
North Canton

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I too an surprised that this model was not sold in the US, as Jack's research has shown that European Hoover cannisters were designed in North Canton, but presumably the powers that be considered it not appropraite for the US market.

To me the styling of the 507 Conquest is typical of the late 1960s and indeed I see resonances with car styling of the time - noteably the Mk 1 Ford Capri and Mk 4 Ford Zepher/Zodiac.

The Conquests has a very nice styling quirk though. The dark coloured panel on the back of the handle is actually a tiny tambour door which rolls down to reveal the blower outlet.


Post# 133586 , Reply# 7   4/22/2011 at 09:54 (4,694 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
The evolution continued just a little longer

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As this picture from 1971 shows. The 417 is updated to have the same rigid handle as the 419 (the new model 427 is still physically smaller), which itself was updated to the 429 with bag full indicator, different and by then universal flip over nozzle, and no longer a choice of finish - its was tartan only - well they were manufactured in Scotland.

The next year the range was completely changed with the introduction of the all new Freedom range alongside the Connie. The 507 & 429 both disappeared for ever although the 427 continued on for several more years in the UK as an exclusive and perhaps even longer in Europe where models have been seen with the "ring twist" locking arrangement.

Al



Post# 133659 , Reply# 8   4/22/2011 at 16:59 (4,694 days old) by kenkart ()        
In a word!

FABULOUS!!!!!

Post# 133752 , Reply# 9   4/23/2011 at 08:46 (4,693 days old) by edgar (Belgium)        
Thanxxx

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Thanx for all the info you gave me. I Will clean it up and take some good pictures of it.
@ Al , If you feel like knitting, go ahead. I do prefer lighter colors, If the hip bone is covered it is long enough. I Will mail you my Sizes, hahahahahah, as for the curtains, If have to take look in the basement.

Greets


Post# 133968 , Reply# 10   4/24/2011 at 13:13 (4,692 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        

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Wow, Edgar - very nice. That should look great after restoration.

 

Al....thanks for the great history lesson and brochure shots of some of the Hoover cylinders. I wish, like others have said, that we had some of these in the US. They seem like very interesting machines. - J


Post# 133986 , Reply# 11   4/24/2011 at 16:46 (4,692 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
My pleasure

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I just wish my spelling had been better.

I have often wondered why N American Hoovers did not follow this, shall we say, "conventional" line, especially as (mainly) Electrolux seemed to do well with them but developed along a path of relativly small physical motor surronded by a paper bag - Portable, Slimline and Celebrity for quite a few years, apparently until the "Electronic" series similar to our Sensortronic range, which looks like a return to a "conventional" layout. That said, neither the Portable nor Celebrity (we did not have the Slimline) were popular here, although the Constellation was, hugely.

I might add that two other US designs "imported" here, the GE Swivel Top and Eureka VibraBeat (1010?) were not popular either although they were with companies which did not have the pedigree or advertising clout of either Hoover or Electrolux

From following all the great threads here it seems to me that the need for innovation and therefore competitor differentiation was much stronger in the US than here (and that is no surprise as the market was a geat deal more developed than ours was at the time) so perhaps the cannister could be percieved as "old hat". It is my impression though, that neither Hoover nor Electrolux were actually the most innovative manufacturers from the 1950s onwards (and that is NOT to decry either their performance or quality), with the exception of the DAM which clearly was a breakthrough, where there were a wide variety of solutions to the same problem - getting the dirt off the floor, walls and upholstry and into a bag.

Al


Post# 134519 , Reply# 12   4/28/2011 at 18:22 (4,687 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Conquest

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It was the only vac that I saw in the shops & brochures but never knew anyone who had one!!!, the handle is a little precious and there dont seeem to be many about, not a bad vac, certainly looks the cool part... It caused a right Hu Ha when Hoover released it as it looked like a direct copy of the Electrolux Z100, it was entered for the Design Award, but the awarding body rejected it because of the likeness....Hoover took great exception and pulled out of a major exhibition in a huff!!

Great find Edgar, was this from the UK then??


Post# 135712 , Reply# 13   5/8/2011 at 02:49 (4,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover - Tatan

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Here is the Hoover Conquest with my all time favourite Hoover Colour Scheme - The Harlequin - in Tartan....

Post# 135713 , Reply# 14   5/8/2011 at 02:52 (4,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover

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Side view, sleds & runners

Post# 135714 , Reply# 15   5/8/2011 at 02:55 (4,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Conquest & Harlequin

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Rear View - How many people used the hanging hooks I wonder??

Post# 135715 , Reply# 16   5/8/2011 at 03:00 (4,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover - Lux

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Here the Hoover Conquest with the Electrolux Z100

Post# 135716 , Reply# 17   5/8/2011 at 03:02 (4,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Conquest & Electrolux Z100

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Rear View

Post# 135717 , Reply# 18   5/8/2011 at 03:04 (4,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Conquest & Electrolux Z100

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Post# 135718 , Reply# 19   5/8/2011 at 03:07 (4,678 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Conquest & Electrolux Z100

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With Tools

Post# 135721 , Reply# 20   5/8/2011 at 06:43 (4,678 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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At some point in the 1960's or 1970's, a 110-volt version of a British Hoover cylinder was indeed sold in Canada. It looked very similar to the Hoover Harlequin 419, and I remember being fascinated by the tool carrier that came with it: it was a kind of wire "cage-like" attachment holder that I think even had a place to hold the canister itself on the bottom shelf. The wands were stored in slots in the upright position and there were hooks for all the small attachments as well. I think I remember our local hardware stores selling it (Pascal's in Montreal) and perhaps Zellers. I don't think I ever saw it in any of our large department stores though. Other Canadians - please chime in here if you remember this vac at all!!!!!!

Post# 135742 , Reply# 21   5/8/2011 at 11:25 (4,678 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Wire tool carrier

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It could well have as we know that sometimes Uk produced Hoovers did cross the Adlantic to Canada. As far as I am aware, the Harlequin was the only model we had which came with a metal wire tool carrier, although this was changed to a plastic bag by the time of the 429, the sucessor model from about 1970, so it would be 1960s.

It could have been the same as Mike's tartan one above but it also came in a range of other colours on the machine body - Black, Red, Yellowish/Green (these are early models and have a sort of stripy effect), a different red, blue, green and of course tartan (later models).

They all had HOOVER on the front RH side as shown above in Mike's picture and teh Hoover roundel towards the rear on the LH side. Also the cable grommet (I can think of no better expression) twisted the cable towards the rear of the machine unlike the 417 where it came out straight out the side. You can see it in Mike's picture above - the cable is not twisted round tight, the exit from the machine is naturally that way.

Al


Post# 135747 , Reply# 22   5/8/2011 at 12:30 (4,678 days old) by Automatic-Shift ()        
Plaid

The plaid one is a must. I have to have one. Fabulous!

Post# 135889 , Reply# 23   5/9/2011 at 16:26 (4,677 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Tartan Junior

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glad you like them and heres the "Exclusive" Hoover Junior Tartan...

Post# 135891 , Reply# 24   5/9/2011 at 16:50 (4,677 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Now is that Junior original or a custom job? It looks funny... :P

Post# 135894 , Reply# 25   5/9/2011 at 17:09 (4,677 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Hi...

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Hi Mike. The tartan Junior look like it belongs to the Joker in Batman...lol

James:o)


Post# 135922 , Reply# 26   5/9/2011 at 21:17 (4,676 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Alistair - thank you for confirming what until now was another one of my foggy vacuum memories from childhood! It would be wonderful if someone could find a 110-volt Canadian version of that Hoover cylinder - wire rack and all!!!

I think ours came in a solid colour, perhaps black or blue.


Post# 136026 , Reply# 27   5/10/2011 at 16:59 (4,676 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Tool rack

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Brian

Here is the picture of the tool rack, and tools - this is from the instruction book

I have just noticed that it came with the all purpose brush, I would have thought it should have been the upholstry tool with the rubber teeth at the back - live and learn. By the way the hose does not have the familiar two peg connector. It was something aling the lines of Lux models although instead of ball bearings it has a couple of plastic clips with withdraw when the hose is pushed in, pulling the cuff out - its easier than it sounds.

Al


Post# 136063 , Reply# 28   5/10/2011 at 20:10 (4,675 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Thank you very much, Al! That's the exact vac that was sold in Montreal when I was growing up - now I know that it was in the 1960's and I was not imagining things!

Post# 136278 , Reply# 29   5/12/2011 at 08:16 (4,674 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Racks n Caddys

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Al, had forgoten about the wall mounted racks, was thinking it fitted over the Oovvah!! Do you ever remember anyone body using the wall mounted ones??

I only ever remember the Lux versions, and the first one I saw was the blue Trident model..!!!



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