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my 1st connie model 851
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Post# 125966   2/26/2011 at 03:15 (4,751 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        

here she is

Post# 125969 , Reply# 1   2/26/2011 at 04:02 (4,751 days old) by midcenturymike ()        
What a stellar Constellation!

Congratulations! It looks to be in great shape. The Canadian top-intake model I have has the more muted dusty rose/taupe colour scheme. These colours are just lovely. I am particularly fond of the models with the full doughnut-like hover ring, as they feel so much more substantial. Did you score any tools or a hose with this machine?

Post# 125974 , Reply# 2   2/26/2011 at 07:57 (4,751 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
I agree...

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I love the Rose/taupe and Blue/white. One of my favorite Connie's.

Post# 125976 , Reply# 3   2/26/2011 at 08:07 (4,751 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Holy Cow Over The Moon, Brad!!!

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Looks like it just came out of the box!.

As you know, all 3 swivel-hose Connies were available concurrently in Canada and the USA from 1955 thru 1957, after the debut of the blue 82 non-floater in 1954.
Hoover's official colorswatch name for your 851 is Heather Rose. The 841's muted paint is known as Mulberry.

Note the trim & badge differences between the 841 and 851; the 851 has a plain decorative aluminum 'donut' ring around the swivel inlet and the Hoover logo strip continues down to the bumper ring.

The 841 has no donut around the inlet (just a simple chrome bezel) and the round Hoover Bug medallion affixed to the side with Constellation scripted in red below it.

The Blue 821 mixes these up with both a Bug medallion disc and a decorative inlet Constellation ring. The 821 donut ring - decorated with shooting stars, the Constellation script and Hoover lettered in red - is wider than the one on the 851, and reaches to the handle support stubs.

These trim details must have been standard Hoover practice in Canada and the USA, to differentiate the models - besides colour - and I have never seen a Constellation swiveltop otherwise trimmed out then than what the pictures show each model to have. All 3 are equally pretty in my opinion.

Excellent find, Brad.


Post# 126025 , Reply# 4   2/26/2011 at 15:22 (4,751 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        

I just got the vac. I will be on the look out for a proper hose and tools.How can I order the new filter and bags for this connie?

Post# 126052 , Reply# 5   2/26/2011 at 18:59 (4,751 days old) by midcenturymike ()        

For the secondary filter, I simply get a piece of felt, trace out a circle onto it, cut it out, and then install it. If my memory serves me correctly, I used a 12" 33 1/3 lp record as a template for this the last time I made one.
I believe that both the style "J" bags, as well as this disk filter are available on ebay. Just be sure that you are getting the old style filter and bags, not those designed for the repro Constellations. If you have an old-school hardware store nearby, you might try them for the "J" bags as well.

Post# 126057 , Reply# 6   2/26/2011 at 19:52 (4,751 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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I'll echo Mike.
No need to pay shipping costs for such a simple thing - unless you find original bagged 1950s J bags, that is. :-)

I find inexpensive old-style J bags at Value Villages and Goodwill stores bagged up for $.99 and hung in those wall hook sections. At Salvation Army they are just plopped on the shelves. Don't pass up Bibles For Missions and Mennonite Relief Thrift stores, either...your cheapest bets other than maybe eBay Canada. Our Home Hardware still carries them in store, too. Canadian Tire doesn't. Or pay full fair price and help out the independent Vacuum Shop Operator.
I always snatch and stock up on any brand of vacuum bags since as collectors we live in mortal fear they will someday become unobtainable for our vintage valuables.
Indeed, the original motor filters are a thin felt disc held in place by the original sprung stainless steel band or later wire coil spring clamp used on the side inlet models. Any thin sheet felt from a fabric store that you can breathe through fairly easily or a closely woven fuzz-sided cloth like moleskin will do. You can also sacrifice a regular paper dust bag or modern multi-ply Hepa bag and cut a disc out of it. An LP record makes a perfect pattern.


Post# 126167 , Reply# 7   2/28/2011 at 01:08 (4,749 days old) by mercuryman ()        

Congrats, Brad, on your new Connie. It's always exciting to find a machine you've been looking for. I hope you enjoy it!

Post# 126441 , Reply# 8   3/2/2011 at 15:06 (4,747 days old) by hooverbaby (Dalton in Furness, UK)        
Nice machine Brad!

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Hope you enjoy it.

Personally, the only Constellations I have are an 822 non-floater and an 822 floater..oh and a rather rough 862! Apparently, late versions of the 822 also floated, though I've never seen one of those.

Our range of Constellations over the years was not as wide as in the US but some models from the same era had similar model numbers. eg the UK 822 was similar to the US 82 in the same way as the UK 612 upright had similarities with the US 61, also differences, such as the position of the switch.

eg the UK pre-war uprights post model 543 had handle switches, then after the war, with the exception of the 160, 960, 262 and 912, there was a switch (don't laugh!) to foot switches with the 612, 638 and 652 The 61, on the other hand, had a handle switch AFAIK. I still wonder what all that was about i.e the switch to different switch positions according to country; what were Hoover playing at?

From what I can remember of my 822, the switch position is similar to that on your 851 but it's a wider pedal instead of a metal toggle.


Post# 126443 , Reply# 9   3/2/2011 at 15:12 (4,747 days old) by hooverbaby (Dalton in Furness, UK)        
Oh and BTW Brad..

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Excuse me for being cheeky..but what is it doing in your bathroom?..and don't tell me it's just a good background for shooting it!


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