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Well I've done it again (Henry)
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Post# 387044   3/2/2018 at 19:14 by blackheart (North Dakota)        

After being tempted by the thought of getting a New Henry both myself and another worker called one of our suppliers to see if we could get them. The person my co worker talked to said they only had single speed models. The listing was still for the 200A so when I called down there I was told they had about 4 in box which had "1.6 HP on them" which should have indicated the dual stage twinflo motor meaning it should have been a two speed.
So we place one in the cart along with a few other accessories. When it showed up I was at my other job and my co worker informs me that we received the wrong model. My other co worker, who is also a collector, asked a few other collectors about the model and confirmed that it was a single speed 620w model. I wasn't happy to hear that and I wanted to return it to them since we received something other than what was listed.
To sum this up a bit I worked the few hours at the shop being tempted by the NIB Henry sitting in our showroom. I was skeptical of it's ability to perform based upon it's specs but eventually opened it after my co worker said we could try to sell it if i didn't like it.

So I plug it in and turn it on. It's quiet....like Miele quiet. The hose is emitting a good amount of noise from the airflow. The suction feels strong! So then I grab a Baird meter and get a 9.5 (The shop meters are a little worn) I fell in love with the machine almost immediately, and decided it was coming home with me.

So here he is, Henry HVR200-11 rated for 620w but runs at about 709. It's a surprisingly powerful unit. It's far exceeded what i expected of it! Waterlift is about 95" at the hose end. Airflow at the hose end is 108.39 for a machine running just over 5 amps It's incredible! The one thing I don't really like/get is that telescopic wand it hardly extends at all.

I do intend to fit a power nozzle port to it and use the Retrofit hose in conjunction with a 1 1/4 machine end. I know some flow will be lost no longer using the supplied tapered hose but adding a good power nozzle will make it worthwhile.

Getting it was an annoying process but in the end i'm glad I gave it a chance! I'm quite happy with it.


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Post# 387069 , Reply# 1   3/3/2018 at 08:42 by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Is that weird, my Henry has a serial number that is only 9 numbers higher than yours.


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Post# 387072 , Reply# 2   3/3/2018 at 08:54 by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Wow they are very impressive figures! Respect to Numatic 😁

Post# 387074 , Reply# 3   3/3/2018 at 09:05 by Mike811 (Finland)        
WOW!

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Henry must have the best wattage to air flow ratio what I have seen. Being the clean air vacuum of course. It really shows how well it's designed.
Now it desperately needs a powerhead so you can take full advantage of its airflow, but you already had it coming.
Fantastic is all what comes to my mind!


Post# 387075 , Reply# 4   3/3/2018 at 09:11 by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Would it be possible to make a video of how the fit the power nozzle port? I would also like to do this to my Henry. I hate using a turbo brush.

Post# 387092 , Reply# 5   3/3/2018 at 13:43 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
lower wattage motor and power nozzle

I got my Henry last year, it's two speed but it uses the 620 watt motor, I was also surprised. It's quiet but it has as much suction and airflow as motors that use twice the power. There are also backpack vacuums available that use that same motor, I would definitely suggest keeping it, I'm very happy with mine.
Rather than use a different hose and sacrifice airflow, get the Volt power nozzle, it's rechargeable and will fit the Henry perfectly, once you try it, you will never use a Turbo nozzle again.
Mike


Post# 387095 , Reply# 6   3/3/2018 at 13:49 by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC)        

I told you so! Henry can't be beat for a reliable and tough straight suction vacuum.
My 2 new Henry's are due to arrive at church any day and we're lined up to use them!
Greg


Post# 387109 , Reply# 7   3/3/2018 at 17:14 by blackheart (North Dakota)        
Hmm.

Bikerray that is something, did you get yours through Steel City?

Mikko, It's definitely the best i've seen out of a clean air design. I do think some Direct air machines namely an Oreck xl-21 85.29 cfm per 360 watts or the Kirby Heritage -Legend II 140.78 cfm per 547 watts. Of course Neither of them could be able to match Henry at the end of a hose. So it's a truly impressive set of numbers.

Mark, I can definitely do that once I decide where i'd like to put the receptacle, and get the machine cuff.

Mike, I could, but I dunno I don't really like the thought of a battery nozzle. I guess I'll have to see how much the flow is impacted by the hose. I do know there will be a drop but if it's too significant I may take that route instead.


Post# 387113 , Reply# 8   3/3/2018 at 17:24 by bikerray (Middle Earth)        
Blackheart

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Why yes I did

Post# 387115 , Reply# 9   3/3/2018 at 17:27 by bikerray (Middle Earth)        
Blackheart

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For power outlet placement did you consider if you remover the power light the outlet would fit in that opening and you wouldn't have to cut another hole in Henry's head.

Post# 387118 , Reply# 10   3/3/2018 at 17:44 by blackheart (North Dakota)        
Ya know

I never thought of that. I don't think i'd do it though the receptacle I have (compact/tristar) is too small to fit into that area so i'd need material to patch and I think it'd look rather sloppy. The reach of the pigtail is the other problem.

Post# 387176 , Reply# 11   3/4/2018 at 08:13 by bikerray (Middle Earth)        
Blackheart

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If you get a receptacle from a Rainbow D3 or D4 it would be the size as the opening. Just a thought.

Post# 387179 , Reply# 12   3/4/2018 at 08:33 by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Thank you Devin that would be very helpful 😊
I think a Henry with a power nozzle will be a great performer 😁


Post# 387183 , Reply# 13   3/4/2018 at 08:59 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
battery nozzle

I would definitely suggest getting the volt instead of making all of these modifications. The battery should last long enough for your needs. There is one other alternative that would save you from having to modify the Henry machine itself, although it's a bit more inconvenient. There is a 35 foot cord you can get that will let you connect a power nozzle directly to an outlet. Henrys are great machines, this is the one feature that I think they are lacking, built in support for an electric power nozzle.
Mike


Post# 387184 , Reply# 14   3/4/2018 at 09:09 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
links of interest

Here is a link to a video that demonstrates the Volt power nozzle, the advantage to this nozzle is that it not only provides the spinning brush, but another fan as well so it actually increases the airflow.



And here is the link to the power nozzle cord, this would allow you to use a power nozzle from Wessel-werk, Lindhaus, Sebo, Riccar, etc. without modifying the machine itself.
www.centralvacuumstores.com/centr...


Post# 387410 , Reply# 15   3/7/2018 at 08:39 by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

So, I'm curious about these Henry vacuums. Are these more along the lines of a shop type vacuum? They have a similar shape to those industrial vacuums, being round and kind of squat looking. Also, why do they all have the face on the front? Is this a trademark of some type for these cleaners? It sounds like they perform well enough, but they appear almost toy-like with that look. Thoughts?

Post# 387417 , Reply# 16   3/7/2018 at 09:50 by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Yes the Henry face is a trademark. In the UK it's seen as cute and cuddly haha

They are hugely popular here.😁

Henry also has a sister called Hetty who is pink with eyelashes. If you put them together you get a baby Henry 😁


Post# 387420 , Reply# 17   3/7/2018 at 09:56 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
Henry vacuums

They kind of look like shop vacs, they are often called tub vacuums, they cannot be used for wet pick up though, although Numatic does make machines that can do that. They are very good canister cleaners.
Mike


Post# 387428 , Reply# 18   3/7/2018 at 11:28 by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        
@vacfan

Perhaps they need to call it the Hetty Wainthropp model! :)

Post# 387429 , Reply# 19   3/7/2018 at 11:38 by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Haha good one 😂

Post# 387530 , Reply# 20   3/8/2018 at 18:35 by blackheart (North Dakota)        
Update 1

I received the 1.25" cuff today and with the 8' hose attached i'm getting 97.61 CFM at the hose end so a loss of about 11. Considering the length and diameter of the hose it's still very good but i'm uncertain if this is the direction I should take. i kind of wish i should shorten the hose by about a foot or get one in 1 3/8 diameter so the difference would be less significant. I have considered two other options for adding a power nozzle (the volt being one of them) they all have their pros and cons and I tend to overthink things, so i'm still trying to figure out what i want to do.

The port has still not been added, that will be taken care of (if necessary) once I've got this figured out.


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Post# 387556 , Reply# 21   3/9/2018 at 08:58 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
go with the volt

Honestly, the Volt is really the simplest option, you can use the original Henry hose and no modifications are required to the machine. The only down side is the cost of the nozzle but that's a one time thing.
Mike


Post# 387613 , Reply# 22   3/9/2018 at 17:51 by blackheart (North Dakota)        
there's a few downsides

1. Battery - the need to charge
2. It cannot be taken apart for storage, my vac closets are already quite full.
3. Stretch belt
4. Wooden brushroll

Don't get me wrong I love my Wonder's tandem air nozzle but the volt just seems like a downgrade from that.

I called one of our Reps today hoping they were developing a corded version for central vacs and was told while it's been thought about no one has acted on it.

I'm also going to be contacting the company that makes the electric hose to see if i could get a shorter or wider version





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