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Royal Metal Uprights - Belt Question
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Post# 381986   11/30/2017 at 18:21 by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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For those of you who own a Royal metal upright... is it really necessary (or not) to unhook the belt from the motor shaft to prolong belt life? The cleaner in question that I own is a(n early 1985) model 880, with the 4.5 amp motor.

In this case, you have to re-stretch it over the shaft to use the cleaner again, and for novice users, attaching the belt can be a challenge.

Thank you!

~Ben




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Post# 382003 , Reply# 1   12/1/2017 at 00:30 by TheSpiritOf76 (Historic Midtown Wichita Kansas. )        
well, for the amount of machines I have.....

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Since I have a rather large collection. I SHOULD disconnect belts on things that don't get used that often. Belts do wear on any machine, weather the machine gets used or not. Because there is always tension between brush roll and belt pulley. But some belts just wear faster then others, flat belts seem to be pretty good on time, especially power nozzle belts and things like Panasonic belts, or Dial.A.Matic belts. I also find that knurled Kirby belts are pretty good too. But round belts like in a Hoover or Eureka seem to not last as long.  The other thing is, how often is this machine used? If it is not used, and it sits for lets say months at a time (some of mine do sit that long, or sometimes longer), then perhaps, disconnecting the belt would probably be a good idea. But if it is under a month, like it is used bi-Weekly, then I wouldn't worry about to too much.

 

Don't you have a Royal belt lifter tool? That to me is something that makes changing a Royal upright belt, and Hand vac belt so much easier. I also use mine for things like my 40's GE, and Hoover Brush vac. Its just one of those things that makes life a little easier and takes some headache away.


Post# 382004 , Reply# 2   12/1/2017 at 01:35 by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Jae,

All my machines are used on at least a weekly basis, but I rotate them week by week.

Yes, I do have the belt lifter tool. The trick is to insert the tool from the left (the side where the bag is) and stretch it until it's over the shaft, and then to twist clockwise. When installed, the front of the belt should face you.

~Ben


Post# 382031 , Reply# 3   12/1/2017 at 11:25 by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Ben,

 

I only have one Royal, the 8300. I do not remove the belt from the motor pulley shaft while not in use and I have found the belt easily lasts me a year or more. I typically use my Royal once or twice a month.

 

~Stan

 

 

 


Post# 382043 , Reply# 4   12/1/2017 at 19:26 by TheSpiritOf76 (Historic Midtown Wichita Kansas. )        
Yes Ben....

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I know how to use the belt lifter tool. I was simply suggesting that you might obtain one since you stated you have difficulty changing a Royal belt.


Post# 382046 , Reply# 5   12/1/2017 at 20:18 by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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I leave flat stretch belts attached. They are just too much a hassle to put on and take off each time.
I always disconnect a round stretch belt, to save from wear. The only 2 machines I don't remove it on are the DD Hoover's...a hotrod 1060 and a Hotrod 29.


Post# 382068 , Reply# 6   12/2/2017 at 09:00 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Besides the actual stretching, rubber ages from exposure to ozone. The only cure for that is to seal the belts in cat litter and store in the dark (exposure to indirect sunlight is killer too).

 

I know this from flying RC airplanes, as the wings are usually held on by giant rubber bands. It's a hobby tidbit.

 

Kevin

 

 


Post# 382069 , Reply# 7   12/2/2017 at 09:53 by huskyvacs (Indiana)        

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Rubber band rubber and vacuum belt rubber are different types of rubber. Apples to oranges.

The only thing that can happen is if you leave the belt on there for 20 something years in that position, unused, it will warp the belt. There is nothing to worry about otherwise.

You are actually putting more strain on the belt by removing and reattaching it so often because of the constant expanding and contracting of the belt. Tension strain will develop in the belt and it will snap faster. Just leave it on, and don't worry about it.


Post# 382099 , Reply# 8   12/3/2017 at 08:00 by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Gosh, hate to admit but have never changed the belt on my Royal, a few years now I think. No issues

Post# 382103 , Reply# 9   12/3/2017 at 11:09 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

It's not apples to oranges at all. It's about how rubber/neoprene breaks down and why. The only difference being the thickness/stiffness elasticity and therefore longevity of vac belts versus 'rubber bands'.

 

Kevin


Post# 382138 , Reply# 10   12/4/2017 at 12:38 by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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I'd guess I'd only really need to unhook the belt from the Royal if I were to use the attachments. Thank you for the tip!

~Ben





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