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Post# 368743   3/20/2017 at 03:02 by Mixman (Central NJ)        

I have read many of the old archived posts and noticed there used to be many UK members posting here. I noticed as of late very few are still posting. Coincidence? I happen to think they give a different perspective on vacuums relating to the UK and Europe.




Post# 368749 , Reply# 1   3/20/2017 at 06:32 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Yes it's a shame they very rarely post on here anymore 😞

Post# 368750 , Reply# 2   3/20/2017 at 06:47 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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A combination of factors really. I guess the biggest thing is that there's a UK specific Facebook group up and running which gets a lot of posters.

Also bear in mind the UK is very small in comparison to the US, most of the UK collectors now know eachother in person and tend to keep in touch as we would with other friends and meet up fairly regularly.

Another factor is that peoples lives have changed. For example Jack (DysonAnimal, previously VintageHoover) was a regular poster for many years and kept the UK posts up, but since he now works in the industry, he's unfortunately not in a position to post here anymore. A brilliant thing for Jack, but not so great for us lol. Personally, I've been here 10 years now and my life is very different to what it used to be. I just don't have the time to post here as much as I'd like to, but with the Facebook group, it's on my phone so very quick to post to.

And lets not forget, Nar (SeboFan) who was a regular UK poster passed away last year very suddenly and unexpectedly.

I think the combination of all those factors has resulted in a decrease in UK posters.


Post# 368751 , Reply# 3   3/20/2017 at 07:15 by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)        
Im still here.....

Hi.

Turbo500 has hit the nail on the head.
When I first discovered Vacuumland I lived at home and worked part time.
I now have my own house and work upto 7 days a week.
I frequently check the site but rarely post.

The uk Facebook group makes posting really easy, just point and shoot with the camera and the post is made. To post here I have to forward the pics off my phone onto the PC and then upload in spare time.

I enjoy learning about US machines (I have 2 myself I use with a transformer)I hope you guys across the pond enjoy our UK machine as they do differ slightly.


Post# 368754 , Reply# 4   3/20/2017 at 07:50 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Hey Matt - I'm the same! When I joined here, I was still a student and had way more free time. I now have a house, partner and career to think about. Hobbies often take a sideline and the convenience of Facebook being on my phone makes things easier.

Plus, I don't know about you, but I find the Facebook group a little more personable. There's a person associated with it, not just words on a screen and a username.

Chris


Post# 368755 , Reply# 5   3/20/2017 at 07:57 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Prime example...Matt just had to message me and ask if it was me who posted on this thread! Lack of identity, I guess. Although maybe some people will like the anonymity, it doesn't really happen with the UK collectors as we all socialise outside of the internet now. Both the joy and the drawback of social media.

Post# 368756 , Reply# 6   3/20/2017 at 08:06 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Personally I think this site is dying a slow death 🤔

Post# 368757 , Reply# 7   3/20/2017 at 08:09 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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If you have time to socialise with all the UK collectors you can't be as busy as you make out 😀

Post# 368760 , Reply# 8   3/20/2017 at 08:57 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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You're damn rude Marcus, you know that? No wonder the UK guys don't post so much anymore with comments like that.

The UK meet up's tend to happen a couple of times a year and then smaller, more local meet up's happen at various times. There's no set schedule, just whenever people are free. Not that it's any of your business but between work, family, friends and then collector friends, my time gets pretty full up. I'm also studying part time as well as working full time at the moment, so I haven't had as much time for friends lately as I'd like.

Think about it, what would you rather do? Meet up with people in person or just chat with people over a forum? Even at the meet up's now, the chat is never focused on appliances as the majority of us are friends and involved in eachothers lives, so it's more now like meeting up with friends that just getting together for vac-talk.

As for it dying a death, it still seems as popular as ever, just with less UK/EU postings that there used to be.


Post# 368761 , Reply# 9   3/20/2017 at 09:25 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Rude me? I have impeccable manners 😁

There's not as many posts on here as there used to be. But I still enjoy reading the people that still do post.


Post# 368786 , Reply# 10   3/20/2017 at 13:50 by Mixman (Central NJ)        
Nar's passing

I did not know about Nar's passing. I missed that in reading the archives. Wondered why he suddenly stopped posting. That explains why he never answered when I took a couple of jabs at Sebo's high prices here in the US.

I am not sure I would say the site is dying, I do however notice a decline in posts and responses even from last year with the most obvious difference being the decline in the U.K. members posting.


Post# 368787 , Reply# 11   3/20/2017 at 13:53 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Mars passing came as a big shock to me. I miss his posts on here.
You cud have a good argument with him. Haha


Post# 368788 , Reply# 12   3/20/2017 at 13:54 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Nars. Predictive text 😫

Post# 368792 , Reply# 13   3/20/2017 at 14:32 by Mixman (Central NJ)        

That's actually what made me notice, when Nar failed to respond to my jabs at Sebo, I then saw that not only he, but a lot of UK members were not posting anymore.

It was actually videos by he and Roger(sensotronic)that convinced me to get a Felix.


Post# 368794 , Reply# 14   3/20/2017 at 14:53 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Haha yes I got a Felix after seeing Rogers video. I'm slightly going off Sebo uprights now though.

I do like the new E series cylinder. I will be getting one soon.


Post# 368795 , Reply# 15   3/20/2017 at 15:04 by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I'm still here! Although I class myself as being in Scotland rather than the UK (but that's a whole other political story we probably shouldn't get into!), I am of that region nonetheless.

I first joined this forum in 2011 when I was 16 years old and didn't have a job, so I had every minute of every day to myself and spent hours browsing and posting here and fully appreciating my collection (albeit then rather small). The "good old days".

Fast forward 6 years and I have a full-time job which is currently pushing me to the limits of my depression and anxiety, insurmountable money problems and other issues I'm not prepared to discuss. Basically, my life is not in a good place.

Sometimes I come back on here and it helps to distract me, but more often than not I can't even look at the vacuums let alone check the forum.

Mostly I just log on to see the "miscellanea" and "household" areas for any personal news from the members whom I converse with, but nothing about vacuums per se.


Post# 368901 , Reply# 16   3/22/2017 at 04:41 by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

I'm still kicking about... just LOL

I browse this site most days if I've got time to kill, I just rarely post.

Not a member of the elitist private Facebook group as I no longer use Facebook... So if I find the desire to post anything vac related it will be on here :)


Post# 369990 , Reply# 17   4/4/2017 at 10:14 by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I rarely post here anymore, it's just too american. Which isn't a dig at anyone per se, but it means that any UK content gets pushed off the first page quite quickly.

I'm only on here today as I was reading turbopowerpaul's turbopower 2 thread (jmurrays actually, but TPP added lots of content), so posted up my latest haul, and am having a click around. But in a few minutes I'll have to stop procrastinating and get back to work, then go home and put children to bed. Then have dinner, do some washing and other boring stuff, then go to bed myself, although I really must get a dyson apart to refurbish and sell!

It's a shame really, as Hooverland was always very active over both sides of the pond. I scraped all the messages and photo's/files from it a few months ago to save incase yahoo binned the group off, keep meaning to pop them in the cloud somewhere, but I doubt people would be interested.



Post# 370005 , Reply# 18   4/4/2017 at 11:56 by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
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this made my day hahaha. I think UK members dont post as much as quite frankly no one comments or replies on threads. I have to agree this site isn't what it used to be. lets hope it picks up :)

Post# 370019 , Reply# 19   4/4/2017 at 14:11 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I still post here now and again...Since many members seem not to take much interest in the UK machines/threads I and others post about, I tend not to bother as much anymore.

Regarding the "UK facebook group" I have no idea what that is, I am pretty sure I am not in it, I don't think anyone wants me there, given what i have been lead to believe...I have one "vac friend" I talk to very regularly, who happens to be one of my best friends, I tend to just keep to myself these days.

I think this site is still a great archive for information but I do agree it is on its last legs really, it just needs some time spent on it, I think, to make it more user friendly and better formatted, however, it is still a good place for photos, information etc, plus all the collectors know about Vacuumland, it is what kicked it all off and put a lot of is at ease, knowing we are not alone in this wierd fascination.

Alex.


Post# 370022 , Reply# 20   4/4/2017 at 14:19 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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No-one wants me in it either but to be honest the feeling is mutual 😁

Post# 370024 , Reply# 21   4/4/2017 at 14:28 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Is it called the broom cupboard? A broom cupboard is the last place I'd want to be with some of them! 😯

Post# 370027 , Reply# 22   4/4/2017 at 14:39 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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It is all bollocks really, if you have a differing opinion from someone, or they just don't like you, they fall out with you! I am not being specific to anyone.

To be honest, I keep what I think to myself and igrnore any sign of conflict because as I grew up and discovered different things in my life, I realised I have more important things to worry about than if Sebo is better or why Hoover went out of business, or if someone thinks a certain vacuum doesn't deep clean...I like what I like, buy what I like and I have my opinions that won't change.

You just have to realise that some people enjoy making you look like the bad guy, by keep subtly driving you to a reaction, sometimes publicly...That is the same in daily life too.

Long gone are my days of being involved in long winded debates on here, because, frankly, I just couldn't give a sh*t anymore. 🙉🙈😂 I like vacuums, here, that is the important thing.

Lol, anyway, that is my peace said...I don't know who put 50p in me! 😂😂

Alex.


Post# 370028 , Reply# 23   4/4/2017 at 14:46 by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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It's just a bit of fun Alex. I don't care what people I've never met (and very likely never will meet) think of me. I don't come on here to be loved I just come on here to give my voews. People are free to like or hate them 😁

It's just a bit of harmless banter


Post# 370030 , Reply# 24   4/4/2017 at 15:00 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Haha fair enough, but if you upset everyone then you won't have anyone to share your interest with, that wouldn't be fun...I am not really a sensitive person so can usually differentiate between what is banter and what isn't, even when someone is trying to be hurtful with their comments on my opinions or views etc.

I tend to be a tough cookie these days, men have hurt me so much as it is lol, I am ised to the abuse! 😝

Anyway, regarding the thread...I am here, long serving Vacuumland member. ☺️


Post# 370031 , Reply# 25   4/4/2017 at 15:11 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I, personally, alsways enjoyed the non-American posts.

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It's always fun to hear English terms used so differently. Also, it's great to see the 'other' machines, etc. I've met a lot of people in here. Some, I'll never meet, and that IS quite alright. As far as thick skin: one needs it. Some like us, don't like us, hate us, bash us, etc. Some are those who really don't know us at all. We're disliked for liking one brand, and one brand only, OR for being very close friends with others whom they despise.(guilt by association). That doesn't bother me in the least. Often, people tend to bash us, what we do, where we go, groups to which we belong, etc. Yet, they seem obsessed with us at the same time. They hate what we do, yet, they seem fascinated at the same time.
It was great at Hoover's 100th b day to see Jack and others from 'across the pond' over here.
I enjoy seeing people's collections, hearing stories, sharing knowledge, and I get as kick out of some false info I hear.
I plan, one day, to go to Perivale and stand in front of your Hoover art deco building. I also hope to meet Jamie Murray. His posts are always great, as well as those from Italy, France, Africa, Australia, etc.
John


Post# 370046 , Reply# 26   4/4/2017 at 19:45 by Numatic_boy (England)        

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Hi,I haven't been on here lately,I agree with the sentiment that the forum is more American centric.I also haven't had the time,I find it easier to post on the Henry face-book forums,youtube or Instagram.They are easier to use in my opinion.Ive also had issues with the aforementioned Facebook group above but last time I spoke up about it,it rustled their jimmies and started a mini hate fest about me which doesn't affect me too much as there's more to life then social media.Its just a bit silly that middle age men sit there roasting people behind there backs.Dont get me wrong,most people on there are decent,just a few are a bit elitist.

Post# 370062 , Reply# 27   4/5/2017 at 02:09 by floor-a-matic (New Rochester/Pemberville OH)        

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Someone else here now uses the username 'vintagehoover' & is from NJ


Post# 370064 , Reply# 28   4/5/2017 at 02:37 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Ha...it's so amusing that people who aren't on the Facebook group are bitter and bitching about it. It's a great group and worth being in just for access to the sheer volume of brochures & catalogues that are on there. The banter is about more free & easy rather than the more structured discussions that happen on here - not that that's a bad thing, it's just the nature of forums & social media.

If you were on the group and are no longer, there's usually a good reason for that. At least 2 of you were booted for being quite rude to other people for absolutely no reason. So if you find it elitist or pathetic or whatever...maybe you should look in the mirror. There's 70 odd people in that group and 1 of you. Figure it out.


Post# 370065 , Reply# 29   4/5/2017 at 02:48 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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"Its just a bit silly that middle age men sit there roasting people behind there backs."

Errr...isn't that what you're doing now?


Post# 370066 , Reply# 30   4/5/2017 at 03:13 by Numatic_boy (England)        
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Im just stating what I thought happned.I apologized for my intial off post but I didnt do anything when I was attacked the second time.Im not roasting or naming and shaming.Infact,I was having quite a nice discussion with who I believe to be you on those Argos Aztec Goblin machines.Im not middle aged.Im not playing an age card either.

Post# 370067 , Reply# 31   4/5/2017 at 03:14 by Numatic_boy (England)        

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If someone finds something elitist and some one doesnt then its subjective and leav it at that.

Post# 370068 , Reply# 32   4/5/2017 at 03:42 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I remember when I first made an account on here ot wouldn't let me use "vintagehoover" as a user name, lol.

I look back now and think I could of chosen a much better name for my account, nevermind. 🙈


Post# 370073 , Reply# 33   4/5/2017 at 06:19 by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
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are all well and good dont get me wrong, I fully understand why im not in this particular one as say 6 or 7 members aren't particularly fond of me. from my last conversations with these members they told me that apparently I know what I did. the funny thing is is that I actually cant and if it was something when I was like 13 then I do apologise at the young me was a complete doorknob without the door. from what Ive seen if a few dont like you your not getting in hence why I dont really bother. as a UK member I do post on here occasionally but it is very American with a lot of the machines I have no clue as to what they actually are. Im actually surprised when i see a UK member has made a thread. I am past holding a grudge and just keep myself to myself. as a lot of other members have posted my life has changed dramatically, work, college ect. so I simply dont have the same amount of time as I used to. hope everyone is well.

Michael.


Post# 370075 , Reply# 34   4/5/2017 at 06:39 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Michael, I've been on the FB group since it started (infact, I think I added you). I'm not admin on it, but don't remember anything that happened to make you leave, I assumed you'd removed yourself? Of all the people who got themselves a bad rep, you don't stick out in my mind at all!

Post# 370087 , Reply# 35   4/5/2017 at 10:58 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
We've all improved, hopefully, with age.

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(like wine or cheese). Everyone has rubbed someone the wrong way at one point or another. It's great when we can move on like this.
As far as being very "American", well, it started here. But, I'm personally very happy to see others jump in. I love seeing machines, manuals (leaflets) from other places. I'm personally trying to obtain a Hoover floor tool that 'flips'. I've seen them in her., We never had them 'over here'.
Well, some of us have matured. (I'm not referring to anyone outside of the U.S.A. Some will never mature. That's the way it it, i suppose.
Keep up the great posts, including photos, please.
John


Post# 370108 , Reply# 36   4/5/2017 at 16:11 by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
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please dont think that was some kind of dig at Americans. your machines are great, especially your Hoovers. Ours were always so bland where as you had a huge array of vibrant colours and patterns. its sometimes there are an awful amount of threads of machines that dont particularly interest me and I have absolutely no clue about them. I do enjoy finding out about machines Ive never heard of and discovering new models.

Post# 370110 , Reply# 37   4/5/2017 at 17:17 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
It wasn't taken

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in a bad way at all. I am amazed, too, that we've had so many more wild colors(colours).

Post# 370391 , Reply# 38   4/9/2017 at 19:31 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Oh wow, I am so sorry to hear about that member's passing. I had no idea. I have not been on the site much in the past few months due to illness in my family. My father has been hospitalized 3 times since December and was gravely ill for a while. I simply didn't have the time or energy to come here much. I have not lost my interest in vacuums. I still like learning and seeing others with the same interest.

As far as the lessening of the UK/European posters goes, I'm sorry to hear that too... It's fascinating that interest in these machines transcends national boundaries. I like seeing the European machines. I tried to engage those posters to my best ability. I hope they don't all leave us.

I'll try to do my part!





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