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Post# 368215   3/10/2017 at 14:53 (467 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Does anyone know if the dates have been set yet for the vacuum convention in St. James Missouri for this year? Is it always a certain weekend, such as the second weekend in June or does it change each year? I wanted to ask so I could put in for the time off work as soon as possible.

Post# 368217 , Reply# 1   3/10/2017 at 15:02 (467 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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It's always the second weekend in June, Thursday through Saturday. This year's dates are June 8, 9, and 10.

Hundreds of packages of obsolete bags, parts, and attachments to give away at the Convention this year. We'll also have a Barbeque on Saturday at the Museum for all to enjoy.

Post# 368222 , Reply# 2   3/10/2017 at 16:29 (467 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
awesome, can't wait

Great, so I would need to take off on the 8th and 9th. Any vacuums for sale this year or just parts? I might be interested in any hard floor brushes that are for sale.

Post# 368242 , Reply# 3   3/11/2017 at 09:17 (466 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Lots of machines either cheap or free. Frank M. is bringing a car full of trade-in's from the Kirby office. I know there's an Aerus Guardian Platinum, at least 10 Rainbow black with lighted water pan, Kirby Diamond (virtually unused). Lots of machines. Boxes of attachments you can go through and take what you want. I'm sure Luke will bring a car full to sell (his prices are very, very low).

Post# 368342 , Reply# 4   3/13/2017 at 09:07 (464 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
all set

Ok, got the time off work, assuming I can get transportation there and back since I can't drive because of a visual impairment, I should be there. Mainly interested in canisters since I'm not a fan of uprights. What time is the barbecue on Saturday? Should be an awesome convention for sure.

Post# 368345 , Reply# 5   3/13/2017 at 10:30 (464 days old) by Dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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The barbecue will be for lunch about one o'clock. We will put long tables in the 1950s section. Lunch is no cost to the folks attending the convention.

Post# 368350 , Reply# 6   3/13/2017 at 13:02 (464 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Awesome, my girl friend will probably be picking me up, perhaps she could have lunch with us if she is interested, I will pay whatever this would cost.

Post# 368356 , Reply# 7   3/13/2017 at 15:24 (464 days old) by toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
I'm confused

Okay - so I'm really confused. I'm a newbie, so please give me a pass on this. "Convention" refers to the VCCC or the Vacuum Collectors Group event, or...both?

I might be able to attend something. Just trying to get me ducks in a row.

Post# 368360 , Reply# 8   3/13/2017 at 15:53 (464 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

The one we are talking about takes place every year in St. James Missouri at the vacuum museum and Tacony factory. This year will be my second one.

Post# 368361 , Reply# 9   3/13/2017 at 16:55 (464 days old) by toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
VCCC or Vacuum Collectors Group

So who do I contact...

Post# 368371 , Reply# 10   3/13/2017 at 21:41 (464 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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VCA. Run by Tom Gasko (dysonman1)

Post# 368562 , Reply# 11   3/17/2017 at 16:48 (460 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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There's no name for the group of vacuum collectors who come to the Convention every year in St. James, Missouri at the Tacony Vacuum Museum. We are just 'vacuum collectors". It's not a 'club', there's no 'dues', no 'banquet', no 'board of directors', no 'president', and no fee to come to the convention. It's just a group of like minded collectors who enjoy getting together, sharing knowledge, and having a fantastic time.

Post# 368594 , Reply# 12   3/18/2017 at 00:35 (460 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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Thanks for the Correction, Tom! My mistake!

Post# 368846 , Reply# 13   3/21/2017 at 12:23 (456 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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No Problem Andy.

Post# 368852 , Reply# 14   3/21/2017 at 14:16 (456 days old) by electrolux137 (Land O Plenty USA)        


Are you going to have cheese curls and baloney sandwiches again?!  hahahaha

Post# 368861 , Reply# 15   3/21/2017 at 15:34 (456 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        
Ha Ha Ha

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No. We're actually having a barbeque (chicken and ribs and St. Louis Style Pork Steaks), Rachel Ray's recipe for potato salad, macaroni salad, beans, and cole slaw. Tacony provides the food - all ones has to provide is their own soda or tea.

Post# 368862 , Reply# 16   3/21/2017 at 15:37 (456 days old) by Adambomb (Missouri)        

You know I'll be there with bells on!

Post# 368906 , Reply# 17   3/22/2017 at 10:16 (455 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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I would expect no less. You are one of the most personable people to be around. Always ready with a smile and a good laugh. And, you're a Kirby expert. We are planning a visit, as a group, to see your collection as well as Evan's. His central vac collection is really something.

Post# 369393 , Reply# 18   3/28/2017 at 10:02 (449 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
what to bring this year

Last year was my first convention, it was awesome, collectors getting together, having a blast, and running all the different vacuums in the museum. I'm trying to decide what to bring this year, and I'm thinking about bringing my power nozzle collection, I have 9 or 10 of them, I will need to count, they all have universal hook ups, it would be interesting to hook them all up and try them on the different carpet types. I do have the new Centec CT23 which is designed for soft carpet, I wonder if there is any carpet in the museum that could put that nozzle to the test. Would be interesting to hook those nozzles up to the Central vacuum in the museum, or maybe pair them up with an older Kenmore or Hoover canister. What does everyone think, should I bring all of my power nozzles?

Post# 369394 , Reply# 19   3/28/2017 at 10:11 (449 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
my list of power nozzles

So, here is the list. Sebo ET2, Lindhaus pb14 pro, that's the commercial model, Wessel Werk EBK340, Wessel Werk EBK360, Wessel Werk ebk280, Centec CT23, that one can clean regular or soft carpets, Centec CT10 which cleans rugs and polishes hard floors, The Ricccar universal power nozzle, guess I wouldn't need to bring that one, I'm sure there are plenty of those at the museum, I also have the GV power nozzle, I'm thinking that one is a China made nozzle, but it does have 6 height adjustments and a LED headlight, and then I have the power nozzle that came with my Metro canister vacuum, I think that one is similar to the Eureka Express or Dustcare PB11. That one and the Sebo are the only two nozzles that have a switch on the nozzle itself. Guess that makes 10 nozzles.

Post# 369405 , Reply# 20   3/28/2017 at 12:16 (449 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Bring a few of your favorites. We could hook them up to a number of cleaners, and test them out for cleaning effectiveness. Can't wait to see you in June.

Post# 369413 , Reply# 21   3/28/2017 at 14:19 (449 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Awesome, would love to try them with some different cleaners, as long as the cleaner has a standard hose end and a two prong mini plug, it will work. Or, we can go a step further, I also have a 35 foot cord that plugs in to an outlet and the other end has a mini plug to attach to a power nozzle. Then we could hook them up to vacuums such as the Kenkarts, or, how about the sunbeam dual deluxe, or that Eureka canned ham that has the very nice motor sound. I wonder if any of those nozzles could outclean the volt, somehow I doubt it, but the comparison would be interesting. Not sure if I can carry all of this, but I would love to bring my barracuda central vacuum unit as well. Of course, it could never compete with Tom's two motor vacuflo, but this unit does have 144 CFM and 151 water lift. Will definitely bring the power nozzles though. I wonder if Rob from Pennsylvania is coming again this year, he loves power nozzle canister vacuums and I'm sure he would love to try some of those.

Post# 369425 , Reply# 22   3/28/2017 at 16:51 (449 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Rob Shore will be here with bells on. Everyone from last year has said they were coming, along with many new faces. Some of the new people are folks that came to the Vacuum Museum, were collectors (none knew about vacuumland), and got invited to the Convention. Others are long time friends who make the trip only once every several years. In any event, it will be our biggest convention ever. Evan Rogers and Adam Mercer are going to show off their respective collections of Kirbys and Central Vacs on Friday during the convention.

Post# 369434 , Reply# 23   3/28/2017 at 19:03 (449 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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Hi Tom
I wish I would make it this year, but we are going South for a trip this summer instead. Hope to be there soon.

Post# 369440 , Reply# 24   3/28/2017 at 20:58 (449 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Hi Mike and Tom!

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Yes I shall be there. I know the museum already has tons of vacuums so there will be lots of fun!

I had an absolute blast year. It was my first year going and it was wonderful to meet people in person that I communicate with on Facebook. The BBQ sounds awesome!! Last year Tom made the lunch with homemade Deviled Eggs, pulled pork sandwiches, potato salad, pasta salad, a buffet of other items and of course a wonderful selections of adult beverages including a great punch!

Mike, you can bring whatever power nozzles make you happy and you want to play with.I will say that the CenTec CT23, otherwise known as Panasonic Plush Pro nozzle would be neat one to try. I'm pretty sure Evan Rogers has Wessel Werk EBK 340 and 360 nozzles. He sells the EBK360. Your Lindhaus could be a neat one. Is that like the Stealth power head? They are a great power nozzle. The Miele SEB228 is a Wessel Werk EBK360 but some reason they removed the headlight.

Post# 369453 , Reply# 25   3/28/2017 at 22:34 (449 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
lindhaus nozzle

I think it's similar to the stealth, but it's the commercial model so there are a few differences. The roller can be removed without tools, and the bottom is metal instead of plastic, that makes it a bit heavier, but the thing is built like a tank, and it has 10 height settings. I wonder if we could pair these up with any of the hoovers that you like, I know some of them had nonstandard hose ends or connectors, if nothing else, we could pair them up to the central vacuum that's in the museum. The CT10 is also a very interesting nozzle, and it really does work well on hard floors, while it can also clean carpets, it probably does not clean those as well as other power nozzles, the brush roll is very unique. Guess I will need to decide whether to stay at the super 8 in Rolla or the hotel in St. James this time, hopefully I can find transportation to and from the convention again since I don't drive, definitely looking forward to those self driving cars. From the testing I have done, the CT23 definitely works, hopefully we can find some carpet in the museum to test that nozzle. It has vents on the top and when the nozzle starts to seal too much, you can feel the vents pulling in air if you put your hand on the top of the nozzle. Would be interesting to compare the performance of the EBK340 and EBK360, I will bring them both so we can try that. I would think the 360 would clean better since it has a height adjustment. Even though the convention is two months away, already getting excited. I'm going to see if I can bring all 10 of the power nozzles, I think I have a way I can carry them.

Post# 369457 , Reply# 26   3/28/2017 at 23:08 (449 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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The EBK 360 has a more powerful motor and overall just a better nozzle from the EBK340. I've used a few EBK340's they came on the Oreck DutchTech canisters, Bosch canisters, Hyla, ProAqua, very similar to Mieles SEB236, numerous central vacs and more.

The EBK360 I have only tried a couple of times. They are a GREAT nozzle. Very fun, very powerful, excellent agitation.

I have seen many videos and love the style of the Panasonic Plush Pro nozzle. I would love to try one of those.

A Hoover hose would power most of the the power nozzles if they had a pig tail cord. However, without an adapter, then none of them would fit the wand connection. Hoover had an exclusive design, which I absolutely love their attachments but it is an exclusive Hoover design that basically no other brand fits without the use of an adapter.

Post# 369482 , Reply# 27   3/29/2017 at 09:23 (448 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
Sebo ET2

Hey Rob, I'll bring all my nozzles so if you want to have more time with the EBK360 you can do that, and we can take the CT23 for a good spin if we can find some thicker carpet, perhaps Tom might know if any of the rooms have some carpet that would work well with that nozzle. My EBK360 is interesting, a pigtail version of that nozzle is not very common, but the folks at Wessel Werk USA designed a nice cord for me that will work with any hose. All of my nozzles have pigtail cords on them. I remember in your previous posts you had said you have lots of trouble with the Sebo power nozzle on a D4, I'll bring that nozzle too, perhaps you can give it a try and see if it has the same problem you experienced on the D4. Sounds like we won't be able to pair the power nozzles with the hoovers. So we can use the central vacuum, perhaps some Kenmores. I wonder if there are any Eureka power team canisters in the museum and if so, if the plug and hose end are standard. I'm actually thinking of getting a Eureka express power nozzle as well, but not sure how good they are. I may pick up a volt while I'm there as well, the only thing that concerns me about that nozzle is if I would be able to change the belt without sight. Tacony really should have used a geared belt with that nozzle, I know the run time would have been shorter but I think it would have been worth it.

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Post# 369884 , Reply# 28   4/3/2017 at 10:22 (443 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
getting another power nozzle

So, I have decided to also get the Eureka Express power nozzle so I will bring that to the convention as well. Many on here seem to think it's a good power nozzle, although the technology seems very outdated, it uses a flat belt, and a regular light bulb for the headlight, but apparently it cleans very well. I know there have been vacuum competitions, but has there ever been a power nozzle competition? If not, we may have our first one this year.

Post# 369917 , Reply# 29   4/3/2017 at 16:03 (443 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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The Eureka Express is a good nozzle. Yes, it is a stretch belt but the motor torque is good and it runs a VGIII brush roll.

My experience with Sebo power nozzles is that the carpet height adjuster does next to nothing. The brush roll on/ off switch is a button about the size of a penny that is very annoying for someone to push it the right way to actually activate. Like other Sebos, there is no headlight. It is incapable of cleaning shags and many bath mat style rugs without power head shutting off. Even if only cleaning in a forward motion.

I just find it inept at cleaning ability on numerous rugs-- even low pile rugs. The brush roll looks like a nice design but there's no power!! The lack of power not only is noticeable in the cleaning and grooming but also the motor. Motor tone is a super lame, boring sounding one!!

Post# 369934 , Reply# 30   4/3/2017 at 22:20 (443 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
which vacuums to use with the power nozzles

It's a shame we won't be able to hook the power nozzles to the hoover canisters, I know you're a big fan of the hoovers. I'll have the Sebo power head with me so we can see how it does with the different types of carpet, and hopefully we'll be able to test the CT23 if we can find some thicker carpet. I'll also bring a power cord that I have that lets you connect power nozzles to canisters that don't have electric hoses, so we could hook them to canisters such as the sunbeam, or maybe an airway or older Eureka. Of course, we could use the volt with those as well, but it would be interesting to see how those power nozzles do with some older canisters. The more I think about it, the better I'm liking the idea of a power nozzle competition. I think I'll be bringing all of the current power nozzles that are available besides the Volt which is already at the museum, and I'm thinking of picking up one of those. I think there are some hard floors in the museum as well so we can run the CT10 on that, so far I really like that nozzle, the design is really good, when running it on hard floors, it has that self propeled type feel to it. Is there any way we could get the Hoovers to work with these nozzles?

Post# 370012 , Reply# 31   4/4/2017 at 13:30 (442 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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They used to make an adapter for the Hoover hose/wands to fit a 'fit all' set of tools. I know I have one, where in the store room it is - is anyone's guess. I plan on taking all the boxes out of the store room so we can all go through them. So many have vintage hoses and attachments, power nozzles, etc. I want it gone, so what folks at the convention don't take, is going to the crusher. I'm sure we'll find the adapter then.

Post# 370038 , Reply# 32   4/4/2017 at 16:18 (442 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
any vacuums in there?

Any actual vacuums in those boxes or just parts? I'd be interested in any hard floor brushes, or power nozzles as well. Always looking to pick up more canister vacs too.

Post# 370588 , Reply# 33   4/12/2017 at 20:10 (434 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

So, I may stay at the Super 8 in Rolla again this year, but which hotel do most people stay at in ST. James? I think there is a Day's inn there and also one called Green Stay, for others planning on going, which hotel are you going to use this year?

Post# 370636 , Reply# 34   4/13/2017 at 12:03 (433 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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A large number of people are staying at the Baymont in Rolla. Also, the Super 8 in Rolla. The GreenStay in St. James is very close to the Vacuum Cleaner Museum, about 1 mile away.

So many people are coming this year, it's going to be AWESOME.

Post# 370664 , Reply# 35   4/13/2017 at 22:24 (433 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
lots of hotel choices

I will need to decide which one to stay in, hopefully I can find transportation to and from the museum each day like I did last year, that's why I want to stay in the same hotel as others who are coming. Looking forward to bringing all the power nozzles and hopefully having a power nozzle shoot out.

Post# 371273 , Reply# 36   4/23/2017 at 13:36 (423 days old) by Toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
St James here I come with questions

I'll be driving solo. A 500 mile trip to St James, MO is doable. An 800 mile drive to Tulsa is too far for these old bones. I'm registered at the Baymont, arriving Thursday night.

What do others generally bring? How many typically attend? Todd.

Post# 371278 , Reply# 37   4/23/2017 at 20:20 (423 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
what to bring

This will be my second convention, I would say bring anything you want to show everyone else. Perhaps a vacuum that stands out in your collection. For me, I'm bringing my collection of power nozzles, hoping we can have a power nozzle shoot out, going to also try to bring my most powerful central vacuum unit, we can hook the museum's central vacuum hose to it and see how it works.

Post# 371711 , Reply# 38   5/2/2017 at 20:49 (414 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I was told last year to just bring myself and an empty car, that there would be plenty of vacuums there already!

Post# 371733 , Reply# 39   5/3/2017 at 09:59 (413 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        
HI Todd:

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We have about sixty people so far who have made verbal commitments to come to this year's Convention at the Vacuum Museum.

What we hope you bring most, is a smiling face, ready to meet folks who also enjoy vacuums, and an open mind ready to learn all about the ones you currently don't know about.

If you have a personal favorite that you would like to show to the assembled group, please feel free to bring it. We would all enjoy what you have to say about that machine.

In addition to the Vacuum Museum's collection of approximately 800 cleaners, we are showing off Water Filtration vacuums this year. The Delphin with power nozzle, the Pro-Aqua, the Ocean Blue, and the Sirena will all be demonstrated, and everyone will get a chance to use and try one of these 'odd' Rainbow-like machines. Was hoping to get a Rotella (made in Lebanon), but no such luck this year.

The Baymont is a nice place. For the economy minded, the Economy Inn in St. James has many folks staying there - after all - it's only a place to sleep and shower.

Since you'll be arriving Thursday evening, if you email me privately I'll give you the address of the restaurant where we all go to eat after the Museum closes at 5:00 for the day. After dinner, it's back to my home for a cocktail party if you're so inclined. Friday is very fun filled, it's a caravan of cars to the homes of friends in St. Louis with nice collections. It's Saturday, back at the Museum, that has the repair clinics, as well as a barbecue lunch (free) for everyone. We spend the whole day Saturday at the Museum, out to dinner later on as a group, then to my home for a 'final goodbye' to each other.

You'll enjoy it very much.

Post# 372588 , Reply# 40   5/22/2017 at 19:36 (394 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
convention two weeks away, getting excited

A bit more than two weeks to go and counting, should be an awesome convention this year. Tom, think I'm going to stay at the Super 8 again this year since that's where I stayed last year and that hotel is really easy to get around in. Do you knjow if anyone else is staying there since I will need a way to and from the museum each day and I don't think Uber or Lyft are available there yet. So, what is everyone going to bring? I've decided to bring my power nozzle collection, we can hook them up to different vacuums and have a power nozzle shoot out, and I will have a cord that will allow them to be hooked up to vacuums without electric hoses. There are some particular vacuums I want to spend some time with this year. I'm a big canister fan, not really in to uprights, of course, I want to see the Eureka canned ham again, actually I would love to see all of the vacuums the museum has that use the Ametek motor that I am so fond of from that time period, I know it was used in lots of different vacuums. I would also love to see the G.E. canisters, I don't think I have seen those yet, and since G.E. made their own motor, I want to know what it sounds like. And, if the museum has any, I would love to see any Eureka power teams from the 1970's. I ended up bringing back three vacuums last year, we'll see what happens this year. If anyone has any canisters you want to part with, bring them and I may be interested.

Post# 372589 , Reply# 41   5/22/2017 at 20:38 (394 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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Hey Mike I will not make it this year, but I might be selling a Kenmore and an Electrolux canister. Shoot me a message!

Post# 372608 , Reply# 42   5/23/2017 at 11:19 (393 days old) by Dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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There will be lots of machines available, either free or very low price.

Post# 372614 , Reply# 43   5/23/2017 at 15:14 (393 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

I can't wait to see what machines are available, at least the canisters. I'm just not an upright person, Tom, any idea what canisters will be available? That compact you said you have for me sounds like a dream come true! And I may have a look at getting the Immaculate or Impecable as well. The three vacuums I got last year from the convention are running great and are very happy here.

Post# 372944 , Reply# 44   5/30/2017 at 22:05 (386 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Ok, reservation is booked. The super 8 in Rolla was full, so I decided to try the Baymont in Rolla, it actually sounds pretty similar, just have to figure out how to get transportation to the museum now. One week to go, so excited. Tom, got any ideas on the transportation issue? I'm hoping to bring back that compact you got for me, a Riccar immaculate or Impeccable, and who knows what else, always looking for more canisters.

Post# 372989 , Reply# 45   5/31/2017 at 13:26 (385 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Hey Mike:
There are so many people who have confirmed they care coming, we should have no problem getting you from the Baymont to the Vacuum Cleaner Museum. Worse Case Scenario: I pick you up on my way to the Museum since I live in Rolla.

I'll be quite proud to present you with your Compact C6. I know you'll have fun and enjoy it.

There will be a good number of canisters either for sale cheap, or free, at the convention. I know Luke Gebhart is bringing a bunch this year. He even has a purple Air-Way (with the GE motor) for $15.

It's about a week away, can't wait to share with everyone. Fr. Bruce brought the rest of his collection to the Museum yesterday, so we have many things to show and share with everyone.

Can't wait to see you again.


Post# 373015 , Reply# 46   5/31/2017 at 17:06 (385 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Oh wow, an airway for $15, I definitely want to look at that. I just hope I don't miss the opportunity to see what's available, I wonder if the G.E. motor sounds similar to that Ametek motor. there's nothing like adding new vacuums too your collection, my goal is to get as many canisters as I can, everyone else can have the uprights, lol. Actually, I think I am one of the few collectors who only prefers canisters, not sure though. Wish I knew how to contact Luke to get more info on that airway.

Post# 373046 , Reply# 47   6/1/2017 at 08:09 (384 days old) by Dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Luke has a thread on the vintage section about machines he is bringing to the convention. Why don't you consider sending him a private message about it. I think Luke and Norm will be arriving on Thursday. The purple airway is not only very rare, it has a unique sound to the general electric motor that I'm sure you will like.

Post# 373051 , Reply# 48   6/1/2017 at 09:09 (384 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Any idea when that airway was made? I did send Luke an email.

Post# 373054 , Reply# 49   6/1/2017 at 09:40 (384 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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The purple Air-Way was made before World War II, approximately 1939 - 1940. They were the first canister vacuum ever with a disposable bag, a swivel hose connection, and on-board attachment storage. It's an awesome machine. I have the same model in the Vacuum Museum and it's one of my prized pieces in the collection.

Luke should be arriving at the Museum on Thursday, so we'll have time to go over it and clean it up for you.

Just one more week till the Convention - this is the biggest gathering we've ever had. I meet people at the Museum all the time, who collect vacuums but who know nothing of Vacuumland, or clubs, or anything like that. I invite them to the convention too.

Post# 373057 , Reply# 50   6/1/2017 at 10:19 (384 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
collecting vacuums

I've always liked vacuums, ever since I can remember, I didn't really start collecting until 2014 and currently have 36, perhaps by the end of the convention, I will have 40 or more. I saw a Central vacuum unit on the Riccar web site that I'm interested in as well, if the outlet store has it, I'm sure the price will be cheaper, the motor in it sounds awesome, 3 stage! If I get it, it would be my 8th central vacuum unit. I love connecting a central vacuum hose directly to a power unit, talk about a powerful canister!

Post# 373062 , Reply# 51   6/1/2017 at 10:37 (384 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
st. louis visit

I think we had talked about going to St. Louis last year to view some collections, but were having so much fun at the museum that we never got around to it. If we do end up making the trip this year, and you want to see my collection as well, you are more than welcome, we can stop by my place and I will show you what I have. I have everything organized by category, backpacks in one closet, canisters in another, etc. I can also show you my central vacuum power unit collection, although I'm sure Evan has more than I do, I currently have 7 of them throughout my apartment.

Post# 373099 , Reply# 52   6/2/2017 at 09:36 (383 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Thursday is spent at the Museum, with a Factory Tour after lunch at Tuggie & Joe's where I've reserved tables for 40 people. Friday is the day where people caravan to Bob's house, Evan Roger's house (his central vac collection is awe inspiring), and then to Bill Kirby's house. All three have beautiful vacuum collections. As people are arriving on Thursday all during the day - we are expecting at least 60 people to be here by Friday morning.

Saturday is spent at the Museum, where we will go through ALL the boxes of spare parts like hoses, attachments, etc. for vintage cleaners. Fr. Bruce brought a ton of vacuums he didn't sell, and we will be distributing them to collectors as well. At 12:30 we will break for a wonderful Barbecue lunch - pulled pork sliders, beef brisket, pasta salads, potato salads, Louisiana Jambalaya, along with plenty of deserts. All at NO COST to collectors. We are also having a raffle where Tacony Corporation has donated a brand new vacuum cleaner (could it be a Tandem-Air canister?) - someone is taking home a extremely expensive brand-new machine.

For dinner on Thursday, we've reserved tables at Bandana's again (it was so popular last year), and we'll all go to Chico's Mexican restaurant for dinner on Saturday. They are one of the few places that can easily accommodate 60 or more for Saturday's dinner.

Post# 373101 , Reply# 53   6/2/2017 at 11:12 (383 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
bruce's collection

Were there any more canisters that Bruce gave to the museum, or were those all uprights?

Post# 373118 , Reply# 54   6/2/2017 at 16:21 (383 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Fr. Bruce brought three Air-Way cleaners (post war models) that are going in the "Free" area, The other canisters (like the "I Love Lucy" Westinghouse) are on display in the Museum.

The other machines were all uprights.

As we go through both storage areas for the Museum, I'm SURE there will be lots more canisters in the "Free" area, and some others that for sale CHEAP. Fairfax, Lewyt, Compact, etc. Probably close to 100 or more machines either free or cheap.
I'll decide what I want to get rid of from the storage areas on Saturday.

Post# 373127 , Reply# 55   6/2/2017 at 20:43 (383 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
canisters and chico's restaurant

Wow, mentioning those brands has me drooling. Tried to look up Chico's restaurant but couldn't find it, where is it located? Didn't fairfax also use the awesome Ametek motor? Next Thursday can't get here fast enough.

Post# 373142 , Reply# 56   6/3/2017 at 09:31 (382 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Hey Mike:
Fairfax did indeed use Lamb motors, two different types. The early ones had standard two speed Lamb motors (like Filter Queen), later models had a by-pass double stage Lamb motor since the machines came with a water pick-up kit.

Chico's is the Mexican Restaurant that's located, literally, across the highway from the Vacuum Cleaner Museum. Shouldn't take us more than a few minutes at most to get there. About a year ago, the old Mexican restaurant closed (the owners got divorced) and a new one reopened (Chico's). I've eaten there several times, both lunch and dinner, and it was very good food. Donnie loves the shrimp cocktail, which in a Mexican restaurant, is VERY different from what I always thought of as a shrimp cocktail. He's from California anyway, and used to eat in Baja all the time. He also loves fish tacos the way they make them in Mexico. The ones at Chico's are very close.

I'm getting so excited. The Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Convention is just a few days away. It's my favorite time of the year. Frank Morgan is bringing a car full of canisters he rescued from a Kirby dealer going under water (literally). There's a Guardian Platinum Lux with Adam Mercer's name on it when Frank arrives.

People are arriving on Wednesday evening as well as all day Thursday. By dinner time, everyone should be here (except Frank who will arrive Friday). Mike Banta is coming again this year, all the way from San Diego. I think he's traveling the longest distance. Russ Riddering from Florida is driving 18 hours. As you know, we are just one large, happy family of vacuum collectors all in our element with our favorite machines.

You must see my Stainless Steel Hoover Constellation, hooked up to the Volt power nozzle (I put a steel brush roller in mine). Boy that thing can really clean. Also, we WILL have the new Tandem-Air canister power nozzle for everyone to see. Tacony hasn't launched the new Wonder and Prima canister line with the Tandem nozzle yet - so we will be one of the first people to ever see and use it (other than the R and D department at Corporate).

Many pics of the festivities to follow.........

Post# 373148 , Reply# 57   6/3/2017 at 11:33 (382 days old) by westinghouseman (Capron, Illinois, north of Belvidere, Illinois.)        
I am contemplating the trip!

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In light of my health issues at present, I am working on clearing my schedule and heading to St. James. I would be leaving late Wednesday, or early Thursday morning.
Wondering if anyone would be interested in sharing the expense of a hotel/motel room?

Looking forward to seeing old familiar faces and meeting new ones!

Ken Wagman
815 670-3077

Post# 373149 , Reply# 58   6/3/2017 at 11:43 (382 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
I'm leaving out at

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Midnight Thursday morning. Should be at the museum around 8:30 AM. Can't wait!

Post# 373151 , Reply# 59   6/3/2017 at 12:42 (382 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Hey Ken:
The Baymont in Rolla, MO is very nice, and you could get the best rate online. The GreenStay in St. James is also good, don't know if they are booked yet. Can't wait to see you again - it will be just like "old times".

Post# 373152 , Reply# 60   6/3/2017 at 12:51 (382 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
I'm staying at

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The Pear Tree Inn in Rolla.

Post# 373153 , Reply# 61   6/3/2017 at 12:55 (382 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
tandom air canister and guardian platinum

Looking forward to seeing the new Tandom air nozzle, will the new Prima models still have the same suction motor as before or are they different? I know many like the Guardian platinum, my issue with that vacuum is that the hose end is nonstandard, I know there is an adapter to make it a standard fit, but the electrical connector is nonstandard as well, the two contacts are very spread out so there is no way to connect other nozzles to it. I'm not a huge fan of Mexican food, but most Mexican places also have hot wings, I will see what they have. It's interesting that Chico's does not show up on google or any GPS phone app. Really looking forward to having a power nozzle shoot out and seeing how the different nozzles do on different kinds of carpet. In order to carry the nozzles, I'm going to use the tote that I keep all of my hoses and attachments in, will have to remove all of that and put the power nozzles in to it, I think I have 10 of them. I will also bring a cord that lets you use a power nozzle with a nonelectric hose, so we could hook these power nozzles up to vacuums such as the canned ham vibra beat, a Kenkart, or how about the sunbeam dual deluxe? My CT23 nozzle is designed to clean the soft carpets, it would be interesting to test that on some thick or shag carpet, and I love the CT10 nozzle for hard floors, it has a special brush roll that sweeps and polishes a hard floor while vacuuming. I also have to say that I'm looking forward to this more than holidays, since I can't take pictures, I will have my digital recorder with me again, hoping to get lots of recordings of all the vacuums that we run.

Post# 373167 , Reply# 62   6/3/2017 at 16:47 (382 days old) by westinghouseman (Capron, Illinois, north of Belvidere, Illinois.)        
Booked and ready to go!

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Hi Tom,

I was able to get a reservation at the Economy Inn at 102 N Outer Road in St. James.
Will arrive in St. James on Thursday, around 1:00 p.m. Looking forward to seeing you; Yes, it will be like "old time."


Post# 373214 , Reply# 63   6/4/2017 at 14:26 (381 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)        

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Wish I could be there to see some of the wonderful friends from the past like Ken, Hans and Frank. I'll be with you in spirit.

Tom, as you know I will be there around the 3rd week of July. Save a few things for the stragglers that can't be there for the festivities!

Post# 373217 , Reply# 64   6/4/2017 at 16:17 (381 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
I really

Don't want to drive 13 hours by myself,since Donald has to work,but I may just hit the road anyhow, !

Post# 373218 , Reply# 65   6/4/2017 at 16:39 (381 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Re Cheese curls and baloney sandwiches

Darn Tom, I was hoping for potted meat, pig feet and chittlins ... I remember the bbq you fixed for us in 96, it was wonderful!

Post# 373255 , Reply# 66   6/5/2017 at 12:35 (380 days old) by Westinghouseman (Capron, Illinois, north of Belvidere, Illinois.)        

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Hey Hans,

Hope you will decide to make the trip, it will be like "old-times," you, Tom, Frank, Mike, and me!

Post# 373288 , Reply# 67   6/5/2017 at 22:44 (380 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
I really would like too

We will see how the week goes, its a LOOONG drive, I remember the first time I drove to StLouis , it was 1996 and I drove a 62 Plymouth!

Post# 373317 , Reply# 68   6/6/2017 at 09:37 (379 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
getting to the museum

Hey Tom, I sent you an email with my phone number, let me know if you didn't get it, what time were you planning on heading to the museum on Thursday? So excited about the convention, going to pack all of my power nozzles tonight, I wish I could bring my barracuda and garage vac central vacuum units as well, but I just can't carry that much, maybe I will bring the central vacuum units next year.

Post# 373333 , Reply# 69   6/6/2017 at 11:59 (379 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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No Mike:
Didn't get the email. My email address is

Everyone is arriving at the Museum at 9:00 am on Thursday. Some people, like Craiger, are eating breakfast at Tuggie & Joe's that morning. If you're up early, you might consider riding with him over to St. James. Do you still have Craiger's number? If you don't want to go to breakfast, I can always pick you up on my way to work - whatever you wish. You're staying at the Baymont if I'm not mistaken.

Post# 373354 , Reply# 70   6/6/2017 at 16:28 (379 days old) by toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
Thursday night for me

I'll be there around 5:30 p.m. Thursday to join the group for dinner. Looking forward to meeting everyone.

Post# 373355 , Reply# 71   6/6/2017 at 16:32 (379 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Ihave to work

Wed night, so I probably wont get there until early Friday morning if I do get to come, dread driving that far, but I just had the oil changed and the tires rotated and re balanced...I hope there is a vacancy somewhere.

Post# 373356 , Reply# 72   6/6/2017 at 16:35 (379 days old) by Dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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The assembled group is going to Sirloin Stockade in Rolla, MO for dinner at 6:00 on Thursday. You'll be right on time. Can't wait to see you.

Post# 373358 , Reply# 73   6/6/2017 at 16:49 (379 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Rumor has it

Mr Gasko may get a very special item for display in the Museum, a very rare thing that probably is the only one that exists today...A rare vacuum display item from the late 50s.Maybe even the machine to match!

Post# 373362 , Reply# 74   6/6/2017 at 17:15 (379 days old) by Dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Frank Morgan isn't arriving until Friday either. We will have peace and quiet at the museum to be able to try out machines, talk, and see everything. The assembled convention is caravaning to St. Louis to see other collectors homes and collections. They will be back Friday evening for dinner. You will have the time of your life, I promise. Just like in the "old days", like it used to be. Just good vacuums, good friends, good times, and lots of laughs. Maybe even some cheese curls, and a couple of bologna sandwiches.

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Post# 373378 , Reply# 75   6/6/2017 at 21:35 (379 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
second email

Ok Tom, I tried the new email address, hopefully this one worked, if not, let me know and I will just post my phone number here, that's the main thing I included in the email, ok, I think it's time to start packing the power nozzles. Perhaps I will get to hook them up to that Central vacuum beast in the museum. Looking forward to this like a kid looking forward to Christmas.

Post# 373416 , Reply# 76   6/7/2017 at 14:25 (378 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)        

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Tom, it's carrot curls and cheese whiz!

Post# 373421 , Reply# 77   6/7/2017 at 16:49 (378 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        

The best laid plans go astray, I'm NOT going to make it this year, Some things came up unexpectedly so guys , Have a good time.

Post# 373431 , Reply# 78   6/7/2017 at 21:51 (378 days old) by Dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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We will miss you most of all, Tin Man. As a preview, here is Robert Clow with his "new to him" Hoover constellation and dial a matic duo. Bob Humphreys helps Robert install his HEPA bag and filter for his Constellation.

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Post# 373432 , Reply# 79   6/7/2017 at 21:53 (378 days old) by Dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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Robert trying out my husband's stainless steel Constellation with the Volt power Nozzle. Finally, a Hoover that gets the rug clean.

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Post# 373436 , Reply# 80   6/7/2017 at 23:06 (378 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
oh wow, did I miss some action

Sounds like the fun is starting already. I'm settled in my hotel room, just got back from sitting in the hot tub for a while. I brought all 10 of my power nozzles with me, I don't have a vacuum to hook them up to yet, but since I did bring a cord that allows you to power them without an electric hose, I thought I would see how they did with this hotel carpet. Most of them were moving accross the carpet by themselves, and even heating up the carpet a bit, so their brush rolls were definitely digging in pretty well. Even on the lowest setting for those that have height adjustment, they were still very easy to move, not getting bogged down at all. The only nozzles that didn't try to run away were the Wessel Werk ebk280, this is a smaller nozzle and has a softer brush roll, this nozzle probably works well on area rugs, but definitely not as powerful as its bigger brothers. The Wessel Werk ebk340 had a bit of the self propel, but still not as much as the other nozzles. The Wessel Werk ebk360, Sebo et2, Lindhaus PB14 pro, Riccar universal nozzle, Centec CT23, and the other two nozzles that I have all tried to run accross the carpet. I didn't test the CT10 since it's not designed for thicker carpets, it's designed for area rugs and hard floors. I'm not sure who made the other two nozzles that I brought, one is kind of a clone of the Wessel Werk ebk360, it has a height adjustment and an LED light, it came with the kit for adding a power nozzle to a backpack. The other offbrand nozzle came with my Metropoliton canister, it's kind of a clone of the Eureka rug master, the brush roll on this nozzle actually gets pretty deep in to the carpet. Can't wait to hook these up to some vacuums and test them on some different types of carpet. I didn't bring the Volt since that's already at the museum. Testing these nozzles on this carpet was really awesome, I'm glad I brought my collection of power nozzles.

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