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Post# 368215   3/10/2017 at 14:53 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Does anyone know if the dates have been set yet for the vacuum convention in St. James Missouri for this year? Is it always a certain weekend, such as the second weekend in June or does it change each year? I wanted to ask so I could put in for the time off work as soon as possible.

Post# 368217 , Reply# 1   3/10/2017 at 15:02 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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It's always the second weekend in June, Thursday through Saturday. This year's dates are June 8, 9, and 10.

Hundreds of packages of obsolete bags, parts, and attachments to give away at the Convention this year. We'll also have a Barbeque on Saturday at the Museum for all to enjoy.

Post# 368222 , Reply# 2   3/10/2017 at 16:29 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
awesome, can't wait

Great, so I would need to take off on the 8th and 9th. Any vacuums for sale this year or just parts? I might be interested in any hard floor brushes that are for sale.

Post# 368242 , Reply# 3   3/11/2017 at 09:17 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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Lots of machines either cheap or free. Frank M. is bringing a car full of trade-in's from the Kirby office. I know there's an Aerus Guardian Platinum, at least 10 Rainbow black with lighted water pan, Kirby Diamond (virtually unused). Lots of machines. Boxes of attachments you can go through and take what you want. I'm sure Luke will bring a car full to sell (his prices are very, very low).

Post# 368342 , Reply# 4   3/13/2017 at 09:07 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
all set

Ok, got the time off work, assuming I can get transportation there and back since I can't drive because of a visual impairment, I should be there. Mainly interested in canisters since I'm not a fan of uprights. What time is the barbecue on Saturday? Should be an awesome convention for sure.

Post# 368345 , Reply# 5   3/13/2017 at 10:30 by Dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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The barbecue will be for lunch about one o'clock. We will put long tables in the 1950s section. Lunch is no cost to the folks attending the convention.

Post# 368350 , Reply# 6   3/13/2017 at 13:02 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Awesome, my girl friend will probably be picking me up, perhaps she could have lunch with us if she is interested, I will pay whatever this would cost.

Post# 368356 , Reply# 7   3/13/2017 at 15:24 by toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
I'm confused

Okay - so I'm really confused. I'm a newbie, so please give me a pass on this. "Convention" refers to the VCCC or the Vacuum Collectors Group event, or...both?

I might be able to attend something. Just trying to get me ducks in a row.

Post# 368360 , Reply# 8   3/13/2017 at 15:53 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

The one we are talking about takes place every year in St. James Missouri at the vacuum museum and Tacony factory. This year will be my second one.

Post# 368361 , Reply# 9   3/13/2017 at 16:55 by toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
VCCC or Vacuum Collectors Group

So who do I contact...

Post# 368371 , Reply# 10   3/13/2017 at 21:41 by vacuumlad1650 (North-East Illinois)        

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VCA. Run by Tom Gasko (dysonman1)

Post# 368562 , Reply# 11   3/17/2017 at 16:48 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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There's no name for the group of vacuum collectors who come to the Convention every year in St. James, Missouri at the Tacony Vacuum Museum. We are just 'vacuum collectors". It's not a 'club', there's no 'dues', no 'banquet', no 'board of directors', no 'president', and no fee to come to the convention. It's just a group of like minded collectors who enjoy getting together, sharing knowledge, and having a fantastic time.

Post# 368594 , Reply# 12   3/18/2017 at 00:35 by vacuumlad1650 (North-East Illinois)        

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Thanks for the Correction, Tom! My mistake!

Post# 368846 , Reply# 13   3/21/2017 at 12:23 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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No Problem Andy.

Post# 368852 , Reply# 14   3/21/2017 at 14:16 by electrolux137 (Los Angeles, California)        

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Are you going to have cheese curls and baloney sandwiches again?!  hahahaha

Post# 368861 , Reply# 15   3/21/2017 at 15:34 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        
Ha Ha Ha

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No. We're actually having a barbeque (chicken and ribs and St. Louis Style Pork Steaks), Rachel Ray's recipe for potato salad, macaroni salad, beans, and cole slaw. Tacony provides the food - all ones has to provide is their own soda or tea.

Post# 368862 , Reply# 16   3/21/2017 at 15:37 by Adambomb (St. Louis, Missouri )        

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You know I'll be there with bells on!

Post# 368906 , Reply# 17   3/22/2017 at 10:16 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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I would expect no less. You are one of the most personable people to be around. Always ready with a smile and a good laugh. And, you're a Kirby expert. We are planning a visit, as a group, to see your collection as well as Evan's. His central vac collection is really something.

Post# 369393 , Reply# 18   3/28/2017 at 10:02 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
what to bring this year

Last year was my first convention, it was awesome, collectors getting together, having a blast, and running all the different vacuums in the museum. I'm trying to decide what to bring this year, and I'm thinking about bringing my power nozzle collection, I have 9 or 10 of them, I will need to count, they all have universal hook ups, it would be interesting to hook them all up and try them on the different carpet types. I do have the new Centec CT23 which is designed for soft carpet, I wonder if there is any carpet in the museum that could put that nozzle to the test. Would be interesting to hook those nozzles up to the Central vacuum in the museum, or maybe pair them up with an older Kenmore or Hoover canister. What does everyone think, should I bring all of my power nozzles?

Post# 369394 , Reply# 19   3/28/2017 at 10:11 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
my list of power nozzles

So, here is the list. Sebo ET2, Lindhaus pb14 pro, that's the commercial model, Wessel Werk EBK340, Wessel Werk EBK360, Wessel Werk ebk280, Centec CT23, that one can clean regular or soft carpets, Centec CT10 which cleans rugs and polishes hard floors, The Ricccar universal power nozzle, guess I wouldn't need to bring that one, I'm sure there are plenty of those at the museum, I also have the GV power nozzle, I'm thinking that one is a China made nozzle, but it does have 6 height adjustments and a LED headlight, and then I have the power nozzle that came with my Metro canister vacuum, I think that one is similar to the Eureka Express or Dustcare PB11. That one and the Sebo are the only two nozzles that have a switch on the nozzle itself. Guess that makes 10 nozzles.

Post# 369405 , Reply# 20   3/28/2017 at 12:16 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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Bring a few of your favorites. We could hook them up to a number of cleaners, and test them out for cleaning effectiveness. Can't wait to see you in June.

Post# 369413 , Reply# 21   3/28/2017 at 14:19 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Awesome, would love to try them with some different cleaners, as long as the cleaner has a standard hose end and a two prong mini plug, it will work. Or, we can go a step further, I also have a 35 foot cord that plugs in to an outlet and the other end has a mini plug to attach to a power nozzle. Then we could hook them up to vacuums such as the Kenkarts, or, how about the sunbeam dual deluxe, or that Eureka canned ham that has the very nice motor sound. I wonder if any of those nozzles could outclean the volt, somehow I doubt it, but the comparison would be interesting. Not sure if I can carry all of this, but I would love to bring my barracuda central vacuum unit as well. Of course, it could never compete with Tom's two motor vacuflo, but this unit does have 144 CFM and 151 water lift. Will definitely bring the power nozzles though. I wonder if Rob from Pennsylvania is coming again this year, he loves power nozzle canister vacuums and I'm sure he would love to try some of those.

Post# 369425 , Reply# 22   3/28/2017 at 16:51 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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Rob Shore will be here with bells on. Everyone from last year has said they were coming, along with many new faces. Some of the new people are folks that came to the Vacuum Museum, were collectors (none knew about vacuumland), and got invited to the Convention. Others are long time friends who make the trip only once every several years. In any event, it will be our biggest convention ever. Evan Rogers and Adam Mercer are going to show off their respective collections of Kirbys and Central Vacs on Friday during the convention.

Post# 369434 , Reply# 23   3/28/2017 at 19:03 by vacuumlad1650 (North-East Illinois)        

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Hi Tom
I wish I would make it this year, but we are going South for a trip this summer instead. Hope to be there soon.

Post# 369440 , Reply# 24   3/28/2017 at 20:58 by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Hi Mike and Tom!

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Yes I shall be there. I know the museum already has tons of vacuums so there will be lots of fun!

I had an absolute blast year. It was my first year going and it was wonderful to meet people in person that I communicate with on Facebook. The BBQ sounds awesome!! Last year Tom made the lunch with homemade Deviled Eggs, pulled pork sandwiches, potato salad, pasta salad, a buffet of other items and of course a wonderful selections of adult beverages including a great punch!

Mike, you can bring whatever power nozzles make you happy and you want to play with.I will say that the CenTec CT23, otherwise known as Panasonic Plush Pro nozzle would be neat one to try. I'm pretty sure Evan Rogers has Wessel Werk EBK 340 and 360 nozzles. He sells the EBK360. Your Lindhaus could be a neat one. Is that like the Stealth power head? They are a great power nozzle. The Miele SEB228 is a Wessel Werk EBK360 but some reason they removed the headlight.

Post# 369453 , Reply# 25   3/28/2017 at 22:34 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
lindhaus nozzle

I think it's similar to the stealth, but it's the commercial model so there are a few differences. The roller can be removed without tools, and the bottom is metal instead of plastic, that makes it a bit heavier, but the thing is built like a tank, and it has 10 height settings. I wonder if we could pair these up with any of the hoovers that you like, I know some of them had nonstandard hose ends or connectors, if nothing else, we could pair them up to the central vacuum that's in the museum. The CT10 is also a very interesting nozzle, and it really does work well on hard floors, while it can also clean carpets, it probably does not clean those as well as other power nozzles, the brush roll is very unique. Guess I will need to decide whether to stay at the super 8 in Rolla or the hotel in St. James this time, hopefully I can find transportation to and from the convention again since I don't drive, definitely looking forward to those self driving cars. From the testing I have done, the CT23 definitely works, hopefully we can find some carpet in the museum to test that nozzle. It has vents on the top and when the nozzle starts to seal too much, you can feel the vents pulling in air if you put your hand on the top of the nozzle. Would be interesting to compare the performance of the EBK340 and EBK360, I will bring them both so we can try that. I would think the 360 would clean better since it has a height adjustment. Even though the convention is two months away, already getting excited. I'm going to see if I can bring all 10 of the power nozzles, I think I have a way I can carry them.

Post# 369457 , Reply# 26   3/28/2017 at 23:08 by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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The EBK 360 has a more powerful motor and overall just a better nozzle from the EBK340. I've used a few EBK340's they came on the Oreck DutchTech canisters, Bosch canisters, Hyla, ProAqua, very similar to Mieles SEB236, numerous central vacs and more.

The EBK360 I have only tried a couple of times. They are a GREAT nozzle. Very fun, very powerful, excellent agitation.

I have seen many videos and love the style of the Panasonic Plush Pro nozzle. I would love to try one of those.

A Hoover hose would power most of the the power nozzles if they had a pig tail cord. However, without an adapter, then none of them would fit the wand connection. Hoover had an exclusive design, which I absolutely love their attachments but it is an exclusive Hoover design that basically no other brand fits without the use of an adapter.

Post# 369482 , Reply# 27   3/29/2017 at 09:23 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
Sebo ET2

Hey Rob, I'll bring all my nozzles so if you want to have more time with the EBK360 you can do that, and we can take the CT23 for a good spin if we can find some thicker carpet, perhaps Tom might know if any of the rooms have some carpet that would work well with that nozzle. My EBK360 is interesting, a pigtail version of that nozzle is not very common, but the folks at Wessel Werk USA designed a nice cord for me that will work with any hose. All of my nozzles have pigtail cords on them. I remember in your previous posts you had said you have lots of trouble with the Sebo power nozzle on a D4, I'll bring that nozzle too, perhaps you can give it a try and see if it has the same problem you experienced on the D4. Sounds like we won't be able to pair the power nozzles with the hoovers. So we can use the central vacuum, perhaps some Kenmores. I wonder if there are any Eureka power team canisters in the museum and if so, if the plug and hose end are standard. I'm actually thinking of getting a Eureka express power nozzle as well, but not sure how good they are. I may pick up a volt while I'm there as well, the only thing that concerns me about that nozzle is if I would be able to change the belt without sight. Tacony really should have used a geared belt with that nozzle, I know the run time would have been shorter but I think it would have been worth it.

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Post# 369884 , Reply# 28   4/3/2017 at 10:22 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
getting another power nozzle

So, I have decided to also get the Eureka Express power nozzle so I will bring that to the convention as well. Many on here seem to think it's a good power nozzle, although the technology seems very outdated, it uses a flat belt, and a regular light bulb for the headlight, but apparently it cleans very well. I know there have been vacuum competitions, but has there ever been a power nozzle competition? If not, we may have our first one this year.

Post# 369917 , Reply# 29   4/3/2017 at 16:03 by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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The Eureka Express is a good nozzle. Yes, it is a stretch belt but the motor torque is good and it runs a VGIII brush roll.

My experience with Sebo power nozzles is that the carpet height adjuster does next to nothing. The brush roll on/ off switch is a button about the size of a penny that is very annoying for someone to push it the right way to actually activate. Like other Sebos, there is no headlight. It is incapable of cleaning shags and many bath mat style rugs without power head shutting off. Even if only cleaning in a forward motion.

I just find it inept at cleaning ability on numerous rugs-- even low pile rugs. The brush roll looks like a nice design but there's no power!! The lack of power not only is noticeable in the cleaning and grooming but also the motor. Motor tone is a super lame, boring sounding one!!

Post# 369934 , Reply# 30   4/3/2017 at 22:20 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
which vacuums to use with the power nozzles

It's a shame we won't be able to hook the power nozzles to the hoover canisters, I know you're a big fan of the hoovers. I'll have the Sebo power head with me so we can see how it does with the different types of carpet, and hopefully we'll be able to test the CT23 if we can find some thicker carpet. I'll also bring a power cord that I have that lets you connect power nozzles to canisters that don't have electric hoses, so we could hook them to canisters such as the sunbeam, or maybe an airway or older Eureka. Of course, we could use the volt with those as well, but it would be interesting to see how those power nozzles do with some older canisters. The more I think about it, the better I'm liking the idea of a power nozzle competition. I think I'll be bringing all of the current power nozzles that are available besides the Volt which is already at the museum, and I'm thinking of picking up one of those. I think there are some hard floors in the museum as well so we can run the CT10 on that, so far I really like that nozzle, the design is really good, when running it on hard floors, it has that self propeled type feel to it. Is there any way we could get the Hoovers to work with these nozzles?

Post# 370012 , Reply# 31   4/4/2017 at 13:30 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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They used to make an adapter for the Hoover hose/wands to fit a 'fit all' set of tools. I know I have one, where in the store room it is - is anyone's guess. I plan on taking all the boxes out of the store room so we can all go through them. So many have vintage hoses and attachments, power nozzles, etc. I want it gone, so what folks at the convention don't take, is going to the crusher. I'm sure we'll find the adapter then.

Post# 370038 , Reply# 32   4/4/2017 at 16:18 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
any vacuums in there?

Any actual vacuums in those boxes or just parts? I'd be interested in any hard floor brushes, or power nozzles as well. Always looking to pick up more canister vacs too.

Post# 370588 , Reply# 33   4/12/2017 at 20:10 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

So, I may stay at the Super 8 in Rolla again this year, but which hotel do most people stay at in ST. James? I think there is a Day's inn there and also one called Green Stay, for others planning on going, which hotel are you going to use this year?

Post# 370636 , Reply# 34   4/13/2017 at 12:03 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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A large number of people are staying at the Baymont in Rolla. Also, the Super 8 in Rolla. The GreenStay in St. James is very close to the Vacuum Cleaner Museum, about 1 mile away.

So many people are coming this year, it's going to be AWESOME.

Post# 370664 , Reply# 35   4/13/2017 at 22:24 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
lots of hotel choices

I will need to decide which one to stay in, hopefully I can find transportation to and from the museum each day like I did last year, that's why I want to stay in the same hotel as others who are coming. Looking forward to bringing all the power nozzles and hopefully having a power nozzle shoot out.

Post# 371273 , Reply# 36   4/23/2017 at 13:36 by Toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
St James here I come with questions

I'll be driving solo. A 500 mile trip to St James, MO is doable. An 800 mile drive to Tulsa is too far for these old bones. I'm registered at the Baymont, arriving Thursday night.

What do others generally bring? How many typically attend? Todd.

Post# 371278 , Reply# 37   4/23/2017 at 20:20 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
what to bring

This will be my second convention, I would say bring anything you want to show everyone else. Perhaps a vacuum that stands out in your collection. For me, I'm bringing my collection of power nozzles, hoping we can have a power nozzle shoot out, going to also try to bring my most powerful central vacuum unit, we can hook the museum's central vacuum hose to it and see how it works.

Post# 371711 , Reply# 38   5/2/2017 at 20:49 by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I was told last year to just bring myself and an empty car, that there would be plenty of vacuums there already!

Post# 371733 , Reply# 39   5/3/2017 at 09:59 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        
HI Todd:

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We have about sixty people so far who have made verbal commitments to come to this year's Convention at the Vacuum Museum.

What we hope you bring most, is a smiling face, ready to meet folks who also enjoy vacuums, and an open mind ready to learn all about the ones you currently don't know about.

If you have a personal favorite that you would like to show to the assembled group, please feel free to bring it. We would all enjoy what you have to say about that machine.

In addition to the Vacuum Museum's collection of approximately 800 cleaners, we are showing off Water Filtration vacuums this year. The Delphin with power nozzle, the Pro-Aqua, the Ocean Blue, and the Sirena will all be demonstrated, and everyone will get a chance to use and try one of these 'odd' Rainbow-like machines. Was hoping to get a Rotella (made in Lebanon), but no such luck this year.

The Baymont is a nice place. For the economy minded, the Economy Inn in St. James has many folks staying there - after all - it's only a place to sleep and shower.

Since you'll be arriving Thursday evening, if you email me privately I'll give you the address of the restaurant where we all go to eat after the Museum closes at 5:00 for the day. After dinner, it's back to my home for a cocktail party if you're so inclined. Friday is very fun filled, it's a caravan of cars to the homes of friends in St. Louis with nice collections. It's Saturday, back at the Museum, that has the repair clinics, as well as a barbecue lunch (free) for everyone. We spend the whole day Saturday at the Museum, out to dinner later on as a group, then to my home for a 'final goodbye' to each other.

You'll enjoy it very much.

Post# 372588 , Reply# 40   5/22/2017 at 19:36 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
convention two weeks away, getting excited

A bit more than two weeks to go and counting, should be an awesome convention this year. Tom, think I'm going to stay at the Super 8 again this year since that's where I stayed last year and that hotel is really easy to get around in. Do you knjow if anyone else is staying there since I will need a way to and from the museum each day and I don't think Uber or Lyft are available there yet. So, what is everyone going to bring? I've decided to bring my power nozzle collection, we can hook them up to different vacuums and have a power nozzle shoot out, and I will have a cord that will allow them to be hooked up to vacuums without electric hoses. There are some particular vacuums I want to spend some time with this year. I'm a big canister fan, not really in to uprights, of course, I want to see the Eureka canned ham again, actually I would love to see all of the vacuums the museum has that use the Ametek motor that I am so fond of from that time period, I know it was used in lots of different vacuums. I would also love to see the G.E. canisters, I don't think I have seen those yet, and since G.E. made their own motor, I want to know what it sounds like. And, if the museum has any, I would love to see any Eureka power teams from the 1970's. I ended up bringing back three vacuums last year, we'll see what happens this year. If anyone has any canisters you want to part with, bring them and I may be interested.

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