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An interesting new tool from Wessel Werk
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Post# 366641   2/12/2017 at 17:59 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        

I inquired about an RD-297 (similar to the Miele Airteq nozzle) and some "gates" for my turbine tool TK-284. Wessel Werk generously sent me not only the gates but a 3 brand new floor heads.

The most interesting of which is the new hft-265. It's kind of like a turbine brush for your hard floors, except it doesn't have a turbine. The brushroll, which consists of two rows of soft bristles and two squeegees, is powered by the incoming air. I've had a few chances to try it and i'm impressed so far! All the vacuum's airflow combined with an active sweeping action? It's unique and effect!


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Post# 366706 , Reply# 1   2/13/2017 at 15:51 by ocscott3085 (DMV)        

The brush on the bottom reminds me of the one on the bottom of my Dyson stick vac. Really does a good job picking up the fine dust of the hardwood floors. I'm sure if they market that aspect of the tool it will do well for central vac owners.

Post# 368375 , Reply# 2   3/13/2017 at 22:21 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
hft-265

I have a lot of hard floors, do you find that this tool cleans well? Is it better than a regular floor brush? I would think a spinning brush would just scatter everything around, but I'm sure Wessel Werk thought of that, I may get one if you think it works well.

Post# 368408 , Reply# 3   3/14/2017 at 13:22 by floor-a-matic (somewhere out there)        

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dos it work on carpet/rugs?


Post# 368415 , Reply# 4   3/14/2017 at 16:18 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
carpets

I don't think it's designed for carpets, however, Centec systems sells a power nozzle that is designed for both carpets and hard floors, it has different kinds of brushes on it, both for carpets and for polishing hard floors. Again, not sure how well it works, usually when something is made to do multiple things, it only does each one averagely well as opposed to something dedicated for one purpose. The nozzle is called the Ct10

Post# 368507 , Reply# 5   3/16/2017 at 09:28 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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Devin, that new Wessell Werk HFT 265 nozzle looks really nice!

One particular hard floor cleaning issue I can see this being useful for is dried sand, salt & the residue on the floor in wintertime from taking off boots from the outside. Looks like this new nozzle would give a very gentle "scrubbing" action to help not only remove the sand, but the residue as well. I think I'm going to look into this myself & give it a try.

Mike - I think you're right about the Centec CT 10. If I remember correctly, Panasonic made a promotional video on it, & it made it quite clear it was pretty much for area rugs & low pile carpeting only, so it's usefulness on carpeting would be limited & it really is meant more for floors.

Rob


Post# 368509 , Reply# 6   3/16/2017 at 10:04 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
ct10

I have lots of hard floors, I'm thinking of getting that nozzle and seeing if I can rig up some kind of universal adapter that will allow it to work with my canister vacuums with electric hoses. I do also have an electric central vacuum hose, but I prefer to make things as universal as possible so it works with everything.

Post# 368570 , Reply# 7   3/17/2017 at 19:21 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
HFT-265

Well I like the way it works, it doesn't really seem to scatter anything i'm guessing part of that is due to the squeegee behind the brushroll, and lacking a turbine the vacuum's airflow doesn't seem to be compromised so there's enough "pull" from the airflow to prevent particle scatter.

As for carpets it doesn't rotate on them at all. The rotation of the brush depends on three airflow channels two of which are on the surface so when it's place on carpet it doesn't get that seal it needs to force air through those channels.

It can struggle a little with larger particles as the airflow channels on the front are the only places with good clearance.

Compared to a regular floor brush I feel like this is a little more thorough than most. I like to think of it as combining an active sweeping motion with the airflow of a vacuum cleaner.


Post# 370867 , Reply# 8   4/17/2017 at 11:45 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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So, I got the HFT 265, & have had it for a week now trying it out. I have used it for hardwood & laminate floor, as well as using it in the garage on concrete to do the spring cleaning. This brush does work & it is a great idea, but there are some disadvantages to be aware of.

1. If the front of the brush gets really close to a wall, cabinets or the edge of where hard floor meets carpet, the brush will slow down considerably. This is a little annoying, since crumbs & little bits of food tend to accumulate right around the cabinets in the kitchen. Having said that, it will work if the side of the brush is beside the wall or cabinet.

2. You must be careful to check the brush after EVERY TIME you use it. Cat or dog hair & other stringy debris will wrap around the brush & slow or stop it. At least they make it easy to clean by just opening up with a quarter to take out & clean the brush.

3. If you have lots of sand or debris on the floor, give it some time & move the brush slowly over the area. It does pick up & it doesn't scatter, but the brush will bog down a bit as the dirt goes through.

4. I don't think this tool could be used with most clean air uprights. The airflow does turn the brush, but considerably slower than a canister, to the point you might as just well use a regular floor brush with a narrow opening.

Just so everyone knows, the vacuums this tool was used with is a Shark Rotator NV501 upright, & a Shark Professional EP754 canister.

This is a good tool, it could just use a little more refinement & improvement to future versions as time goes on.

I think this brush, if it was turned into a lithium battery powered floor brush, with this type of brushroll it would work great with a upright to clean hard floors. The problem, as I said above, is most uprights the airflow is just not powerful enough to turn a large brush.

There are uprights coming out that are targeting BOTH hard floors & carpeting. The Shark Rotator NV501 with the Dust Away attachment, Shark Powered Lift Away Speed NV680 with the Dust Away attachment that can be used on the wand or transform the upright into a large broom vacuum, the Shark Rotator Speed DuoClean, & Sebo Felix with it's hard floor brush are proof that this is a growing trend that cannot be ignored. I think if this tool was battery powered, this would make a great floor brush that manufacturers could add to a upright & make it a great package to clean both carpet & hard floors effectively.

Rob


Post# 370901 , Reply# 9   4/17/2017 at 19:27 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
spinning brush for hard floors

For a good spinning brush for hard floors, get the Centec CT10, it's awesome and does not have the issues you describe. It actually does very well along edges and does not slow down since it's an electric motor. It's quite easy to get it to work with any electric hose if you're willing to deal with plugging a cord in to the hose. The volt nozzle also does work on hard floors, but I think the CT10 may work a little better.
Mike


Post# 370905 , Reply# 10   4/17/2017 at 20:16 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        
Mike

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I agree with you on the Centec CT10. Too bad Panasonic went out of the vacuum business, as it won't be around forever. For my Shark Professional EP754 canister, though, the Centec wouldn't work, since the electrical connectors on the Shark are proprietary. It is a rebadged KingClean canister, over in Europe they got a straight suction Dirt Devil variant. If you look at the latest Fuller Brush/Carpet Pro canisters, JohnnyVac Hydrogen Fusion, amongst others made by KingClean, you would see what I mean. Plus the cost for this is signifigantly less than the Centec.

Furthermore, the proprietary electrical connector issue some brands use would be even more reason to make it powered by a lithium battery with a charger. That takes away the issue of electrical connectors & truly makes the floor brush universal for ANY brand with the right adapter.

Rob


Post# 370937 , Reply# 11   4/18/2017 at 09:48 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
battery powered nozzle

Oh yes, I agree, a battery powered nozzle would be great. It sounds like these new vacuums don't use the standard mini prong outlet that is so common, I don't like proprietary connections because they limit what you can use. I actually will not purchase any vacuum that uses nonstandard connections unless I can use an adapter to make it standard.
Centec bought all of the remaining Panasonic stock that they could, but yes, once the nozzles are gone, they could be gone for good unless the new company continues making them. They are going to continue the ct18 and ct20, and probably the CT23, but not sure about the CT10. Kind of a shame, it's a really nice nozzle, very quiet and it cleans hard floors very well, better than most floor brushes. Here is a video of the CT10.
Mike





Post# 371021 , Reply# 12   4/19/2017 at 04:17 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Nice floor tool-like how the front can rise-making it able to gulp larger debris.




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