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| Post# 31119 2/7/2008 at 09:42 (5,922 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
Are there any major differences between the Kirby G3 and G4 other than cosmetic? If I don't end up winning the Legend II I have placed a bid for on ebay, I'm going to get me my first Generation model Kirby, but I would like to know if there are any major differences, mechanically between the two. Is the filtration different? The cleaning power? If so, then I would opt for the G-4. If not, then I think I would go with the G-3. There is just something about that white color that appeals to me. It looks so sterile and modern! Any advice from you Kirby guru's would be greatly appreciated!
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| Post# 31123 , Reply# 3 2/7/2008 at 11:25 (5,922 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
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G Series | ||
| Post# 31128 , Reply# 4 2/7/2008 at 12:40 (5,922 days old) by vintagehoover () | ||
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Here's a site I found helpful. ... CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK | ||
| Post# 31131 , Reply# 6 2/7/2008 at 13:36 (5,922 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
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Interesting... | ||
| Post# 31132 , Reply# 7 2/7/2008 at 13:38 (5,922 days old) by louvac (A) | ||
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Hell......do what I do...... GET THEM BOTH! LOL!! | ||
| Post# 31133 , Reply# 8 2/7/2008 at 14:25 (5,922 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
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Uh oh.. | ||
| Post# 31134 , Reply# 9 2/7/2008 at 15:11 (5,922 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
Another Generation 3 diffrence to the G4
As well as the tilt latch the original G4 bags have a better filteration than the Generation 3 as the G4 was the first to have "micronmagic". Both outer bags were different types of material. Also there was motor power differances. Generation 3 had a 700 watt motor and the G4 had a less powerful but more efficient 635 watt motor. Oh!! the G4 floor attachment had a elbow in it but the Generation 3 floor tool did not. james | ||
| Post# 31175 , Reply# 10 2/8/2008 at 08:02 (5,921 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
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Kirby | ||
| Post# 31178 , Reply# 12 2/8/2008 at 09:06 (5,921 days old) by swiveltop (Galveston, TX) | ||
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one more try 
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Post# 31180 , Reply# 13 2/8/2008 at 09:12 (5,921 days old) by arh1953  ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida) |
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| Post# 31181 , Reply# 14 2/8/2008 at 09:29 (5,921 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
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Small nozzle | ||
| Post# 31190 , Reply# 16 2/8/2008 at 12:27 (5,921 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
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Greatvacs | ||
| Post# 31304 , Reply# 19 2/9/2008 at 20:39 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
Rescued G3 | ||
| Post# 31305 , Reply# 20 2/9/2008 at 20:41 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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| Post# 31306 , Reply# 21 2/9/2008 at 20:53 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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Twas Pete put a Powerdrive upright in my hands and showed me the light! The wheels on the G3 and no doubt subsequent models have very grippy rubber tires on bare floor or carpet - this thing will yank ya off your feet like a large dog. Luv it! The stain is worst in back but there are no snags or rips. Question for KIRBY techs - the right side handle pivot spring plastic shaft bushing is cracked & split, allowing the bushing to rotate with the handle rather than allowing the spring's centering action. How would I come up with a replaceent plastic bushing at low cost? Not that it's a real problem, the handle does stay tilted forward at rest but drops dramaticly to the floor or impacts the handle stop peg if you let go. It is this that no doubt popped all the rivits holding the pivot hinge cylinder barrel the spring resides in. The handle was a very sloppy fit when I got it. I put in new industrial strength rivits. I would hope the G4 + upgrades addressed this weak handle to hinge connection. 
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| Post# 31307 , Reply# 22 2/9/2008 at 21:06 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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I got the G3 with all these accessories. The Lady said she got it as a wedding gift and never liked it ( but then she also didn't understand how to use the Tech Drive - didn't read the manual I guess). Anyway, she didn't use it much and after the divorce she decided to use it as she made major renovations to her basement Rec Room and well...I guess she took out some healthy closure rage on it. That's why she bought all those belts but when a chunk of wood stopped the fan she figured it was busted. Lucky me. Must have tossed out the G3 manual because I don't have it. But I do have, from the ReStore, a dark grey Accessory Set in the box for a G4 with the G4 Owner's Manual on VHS tape. I do like the overall color scheme, tho the vac is the heaviest Kirby I've handled so far. And I do wish Kirby had continued using high quality vinyl hoses instead of the 'crush-proof' ribbed plastic. 
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| Post# 31308 , Reply# 23 2/9/2008 at 21:24 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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The complete Entry level G3
Sure, I don't have the floor polisher head or the Rug Renovator but so what - My Tradition and Dual Santronic 80 do! They are so much prettier and lighter and bluer and greener even if they aren't power driven. The snap shut Accesoriy boxes are much nicer and easier to store as well. These Kirby plastic tool bins are dreadfully designed - you have to take everything out to get a part, it seems. At least the earlier bins incorporate the nozzle sockets out front and labeled. 
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| Post# 31309 , Reply# 24 2/9/2008 at 21:36 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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So I keep all the G3 tools in this other style Kirby Caddy | ||
| Post# 31310 , Reply# 25 2/9/2008 at 22:03 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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| Post# 31311 , Reply# 26 2/9/2008 at 22:12 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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The Tradition and Heritage are more hefty. The Heritage II was my first Kirby left out on the curb for trash. I slammed on the brakes and scooped it. The Gorgeous Blue Tradition came from Pete and over this winter I completed the missing wands, hose, polisher head and Rug Renovator kit bits from Doug Smith out Moose Jaw way. Love it's swoopy styling in the wing tabs of the brush roll head. This is the one Kirby bag that bleeds blue dye on contact with water. Compare the left briefly washed bag to the one on the machine - that fade took only about 45 seconds! I coulda re-dyed some 501s in the water. LOL 
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| Post# 31324 , Reply# 27 2/9/2008 at 23:37 (5,920 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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Regarding my Post# 31306 above.
The spring I'm referring to is NOT the retrofit one from the G4 that centers the forward/back motion of the handle slider. The one I'm asking about is a strong coil spring inside the handle pivot hinge mount. The coil has pins at each end that fit into corresponding holes on the end bushings, engineered to keep the handle more or less upright when released. the bushing on the left is meant to rotate with the handle while the one on the right should be stationary. The bushing on the right has a flat sided keyway that locks with the axle pin so the handle is free to rotate forward and back but return to upright when released. My bushing got cracked open and distorted when the handle clamp rivits popped open. So the coil spring no longer has any effect since the one end no longer locks to the axle flat keyway. Wish there was a walk-in KIRBY Repair Depot close by...I'll ask my local guy if he can order this part for me. | ||
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