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Thread Number: 27589
/ Tag: Recent/New Polishers/Floor Care Products
The Hoover-ification of Oreck Has Begun |
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| Post# 308649 , Reply# 1 12/12/2014 at 21:52 (3,422 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Post# 308659 , Reply# 3 12/12/2014 at 23:06 (3,422 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Seth, I agree totally. | ||
| Post# 308664 , Reply# 4 12/12/2014 at 23:23 (3,422 days old) by sbakerde (Millsboro, DE ) | ||
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Thanks John. Nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks this way. Don't get me wrong the hoover wind tunnel is a great vacuum. But I prefer not to see everyone else's name on it. I think they days where we can identify a vacuums make and model from 200 feet are slowly fading. | ||
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Post# 308666 , Reply# 5 12/12/2014 at 23:30 (3,422 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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| Post# 308668 , Reply# 6 12/12/2014 at 23:44 (3,422 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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TTI owning Oreck =
Hoovers made in the USA again they are already making them at the Oreck factory and anything badged Oreck will have higher quality options and parts . Everything some complained about because TTI made vacuums in China oh well thank God they don't have to cater to collectors they'd be out of business for certain .
This will reinforce all the good TTI has done to save Hoover , Royal , Dirt Devil , Oreck without TTI these brands would be extinct . I LOVE TTI and commend them on the fine job of bring these brand well into the future . Americans have jobs that's most important . Dan | ||
| Post# 308675 , Reply# 7 12/13/2014 at 02:24 (3,422 days old) by ozhoover (London UK (but born and raised in Melbourne, Australia )) | ||
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Also on sale in the UK from VAX Hi The same model is on sale in the UK from Vax as the Floormate Edge for £129.99 in white. Mark
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| Post# 308734 , Reply# 9 12/13/2014 at 17:58 (3,421 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
TTI has a bigger interest in the big box store vs the independent retailer.
That being said... The SKU's made for big box are not the same as the SKU's made for independent retail. They are not made the same, have less options and to a point are made with different materials.. Also, the Oreck plant is not used to make hoovers... All of Oreck's production has been sent to the China plants, TTi is going to use the cooksville plant for the commercial lineup.. That being said, any of the commercial products that share a residential counterpart will be made there.. IE the tempo, cr50005 and UR30075. Our rep was just here and I just hashed a lot of this over... .... independent retailer has a higher profit, big-box is higher volume. You are looking at 5 million / year vs 20 million / year... TTi has too many other fish they need to fry instead of supporting the small guys.... | ||
| Post# 308735 , Reply# 10 12/13/2014 at 18:00 (3,421 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Post# 308752 , Reply# 11 12/13/2014 at 21:31 (3,421 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Thanks foe shedding a clearer | ||
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Post# 308766 , Reply# 12 12/13/2014 at 23:41 (3,421 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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It's fantastic to hear the Tempo will be made in Tennessee. That's already a favorite of mine and now it will just get better! Although, Oreck has also prided themselves in being made in the USA for decades; that's unfortunate production has moved to China. Perhaps the only reason why I've ever bought Oreck products at retail price is because of they were made domestically. I hope their image doesn't suffer greatly from this. | ||
| Post# 308771 , Reply# 13 12/14/2014 at 03:59 (3,421 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
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| Post# 308780 , Reply# 14 12/14/2014 at 07:13 (3,421 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Not the original
Orecks they are still assembled in Tennessee plus the XL21 style Joshua I think people are believing all Orecks are made in China which is untrue . The magnesium bagless and canisters except the buster bee are made in China . I managed an Oreck store for 6 years and have many friends in that company just wait and see what happens 😉
All I can say right now about Hoover is WATCH ... Dan | ||
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Post# 308819 , Reply# 15 12/14/2014 at 18:03 (3,420 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana) |
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Dan, I was going to say the same thing, I did not think the classic Oreck's were made in China. I am an Oreck dealer and have heard nothing of this. I think there are many great things to come from Oreck and Hoover, as you said we will have to wait and see. | ||
| Post# 308843 , Reply# 16 12/14/2014 at 21:58 (3,420 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
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| Post# 308864 , Reply# 18 12/15/2014 at 08:18 (3,420 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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So is the Oreck model really the same as the cheaper Hoover? Or is the Oreck the Cadillac version with extra and better features? How do they differ? | ||
| Post# 308869 , Reply# 19 12/15/2014 at 08:57 (3,420 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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TTI is NOT | ||
| Post# 308874 , Reply# 20 12/15/2014 at 11:19 (3,419 days old) by Marks_here (_._) | ||
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| Post# 308879 , Reply# 21 12/15/2014 at 12:17 (3,419 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
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| Post# 308894 , Reply# 23 12/15/2014 at 15:56 (3,419 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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TTI
Just bought Oreck they haven't changed anything on Oreck yet where do some of you come up with these things ???
I have never heard so many people make up something about a company without knowing anything about a company . The ink hasn't even dried on the contracts yet . David Orecks Son Tom Oreck is still at Oreck and speaks to his father reguarly . Dan | ||
| Post# 308898 , Reply# 24 12/15/2014 at 16:16 (3,419 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
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Post# 308900 , Reply# 25 12/15/2014 at 16:27 (3,419 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Some people talk just to start a fight.
"Stirring the pot;, as it were. They like to hear themselves.
There are always numerous sidfes to a story. I had heard numerous stories about "Hoover" changing, returning, re-introducing.... I KNOW they kept the patents... for obvious reasons. I'll never "throw gas on the fire". I believe the things I heard that were directly from Glenwillow. about lots of things. Some things, indeed, have come true. Others............... And, from some "sources" among "us".... All with a grain of salt. | ||
| Post# 308908 , Reply# 26 12/15/2014 at 18:41 (3,419 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Joshua
I'm not talking about you I'm speaking about those who bash TTI and say TTI has destroyed Oreck Hoover and Royal .
I have many friends in the vacuum industry including TTI Oreck and Hoover and I hear good news coming out about Hoover Royal and Oreck . Since when is it bad that they purchased Oreck and are making commercial and Domestic vacuum by Oreck Royal and Hoover right here in the USA while employing Americans .I love TTI because they have saved Hoover Royal and Oreck if it wasn't for them these companies would be gone from history . I know from owning a vacuum shop many vacuum stores don't like TTI because they don't support them as they'd like but that will change in time they had a mess to clean up from the Maytag ownership and the company that owned Oreck just about destroyed Oreck . You can't clean things up over night but good things are on the Horizon at TTI . I am passionate about many brands as you can tell from my extensive collection and owning many of the vacuums out there and being an all brand enthusiest I can say TTI makes great vacuums . I love these snarky immature childish innuendos about me I learn so much that I didn't know about myself 😜😛😝 Dan This post was last edited 12/15/2014 at 19:50 | ||
| Post# 308911 , Reply# 27 12/15/2014 at 19:09 (3,419 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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Why did Hoover quit making the good turbine powered hand tool? Or are they still available? Is Bissell owned by TTI? 
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| Post# 308916 , Reply# 28 12/15/2014 at 20:44 (3,419 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
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Dan,
I apologize. I thought you were responding to me. As a dealer, I am very excited for whats to come... The only 'issue' I have with TTi is that they discontinued our RY7910/RY7940 extractor... That was the only extractor we ever fully supported, sold and serviced. We were hoping that Oreck would get that unit under their label but that was not the case... I was also hoping for the floormate that Oreck got to be branded under Royal... Oh well... Again, Dan, I do apologize. I hope you didn't take offense to any of my responses. | ||
| Post# 308927 , Reply# 29 12/15/2014 at 21:39 (3,419 days old) by Hoover78 (dallas tx) | ||
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Royal self propelled Hey guys do yall think royal will rebadge the self propelled version of the windtunnel under the royal name like the did the tempo and windtunnel supreme? | ||
| Post# 308928 , Reply# 30 12/15/2014 at 21:53 (3,419 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Joshua
Please stuff like this doesn't offend me I am just very passionate about TTI brand Hoover Oreck and Royal .
Don't worry even better machines are on the way just you wait to see ;) l know those machines were great some of TTis best our local vacuums shops are upset they are discontinued also . The Oreck purchase by TTI will bring many exciting vacuums for many years to come and keep Hoover Royal and Oreck around well into the future . Dan | ||
| Post# 308929 , Reply# 31 12/15/2014 at 21:57 (3,419 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID) | ||
kirbyloverdan, | ||
| Post# 308964 , Reply# 32 12/16/2014 at 13:22 (3,418 days old) by Orecklover () | ||
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I agree!! jaker15, I completely agree. TTI has ruined all those brands. I would like to see a new "oreck" out perform one of my older XL 2's. | ||
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Post# 308966 , Reply# 33 12/16/2014 at 13:32 (3,418 days old) by fanonthefloor (Augusta,Georgia) |
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"TTI makes great vacuums" I agree with this because I have Two TTI Hoover's and they both are great vacuums. I have a Hoover Nano cyclonic which has lasted for 3 years with good use. I also have a new windtunnel air canister which is a great deep cleaner and can easily outlast the warranty just like the nano. | ||
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Post# 308985 , Reply# 34 12/16/2014 at 15:25 (3,418 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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Remember the Hoovers of the mid-2000s, before TTI bought them out? Now that was a sad time for Hoover. Their bagless machines, which is what sells these days, were very unimpressive. Plus, with the exception of the Elite, many pre-TTI machines are still for sale. I've been very pleasantly surprised with Hoover since the TTI takeover. You can't really compare a 1935 Hoover with one from 2014. The same is true with most every other brand. No way do the current Aerus Electrolux machines compare to the Model G. "They just don't make em like that anymore"
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| Post# 309743 , Reply# 35 12/23/2014 at 21:46 (3,411 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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In my opinion...and experience....
Vax in the UK wouldn't be where they are today without Dirt Devil in the U.S, which in turn through contract agreement, Vax supplied some models to Dirt Devil U.S
After being absorbed by TTI, Vax has become one of the best selling brands in the UK and they offer cost effective products at times dependent on the model in question. Not everything Vax makes is automatically better -their tub canisters, of which I was a fan of have slipped down in plastic build quality these days and Vax have no clear signs of improving them, which is a pity given how solid a Numatic tub vacuum is. | ||
| Post# 315795 , Reply# 38 2/17/2015 at 16:11 (3,355 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
The day of made in China will soon end. I posted a thread around a year ago explaining why, as it has turned out, most of it has come true (I'll try and post a link), although for reasons I didn't foresee. I don't claim to be an economist, but what and who I have worked with, people with connections and working first hand with Chinese, Japanese and Taiwanese businesses, the Chinese are certainly very unique when it comes to business and manufacturing.
A lot of western firms are moving out of China now due to being falsely sued for reason which are very grey. GSK, Mercedes, Audi, GM and Microsoft have been sued for what the Chinese are calling "anti-monopoly laws", or price fixing. Over in the west, this is common practice and in no way wrong or illegal, but the Chinese con and blackmail a lot of western companies for technology, or else they get into a lot of trouble. Qualcomm being an example, they were essentially forced to give a semiconductors chip manufacturer in China details of the patents in their latest 801 chip they use in smartphones. They use their huge market as a threat and decoy, if that makes sense, essentially getting away with whatever they want. Google and Panasonic have now completely pulled out of China, Panasonic will do y the end of 2016. The Japanese you have to remember, got a lot of technology and teaching from Americans after WW2. The Japanese being democratic, free market economy took what was taught to them and have made a huge company for themselves, selling high quality goods around the world. Similar story with Taiwan. Essentially, it is corruption in China on a scale no one can really measure. What they call corruption, we don't, and what we call corruption, they don't. It is a clash of politics and culture. | ||
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Post# 315841 , Reply# 39 2/18/2015 at 02:31 (3,355 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Guess we could say the "TTI-ification" of Oreck has begun.Chinese costs are starting to go up-their labor is just beginning to organize.To the US the cost of shipping has gone up.Ships operating into or out of US ports have to burn low sulphur fuel which is VERY expensive.-New EPA regs. | ||
| Post# 318556 , Reply# 40 3/17/2015 at 00:51 (3,328 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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What about Baton Rouge plant? Is it still open today? Is the H3000 FoorMate still made? | ||
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