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A little Kenmore Evolution |
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Post# 291816 , Reply# 4   8/3/2014 at 20:59 (3,568 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Looks great, DT! Here's an update on my 2.5:
I tried it out on carpets with the 4.1's power nozzle, and then the rainbow' s power nozzle. It didn't do the best on the carpet, but both powered nozzles brushes were worn. It unplugging the power-nozzle rig, so I broke-out the lovely Heritage II to finish the house. I tried it to vacuum the car, and it didn't do the best. It couldn't spin a turbo-brush to power rpm, and didn't do the best suction-wise.Oh well, what could you expect from a 2.5 horsepower motor. I broke out the HOOVER Dimension 1000 canister, the only vacuum out there that uses circuit boards in a good way. That Hoover could suck chrome off a bumper at full power, and still be quiet enough to talk over. That Hoover turbo-brush went on a marathon when it was plugged in to the Dimension! For the rugs I used a certain vacuum that starts with C and ends in clean carpets, the Hoover Convertible! Even with that CWP brush, the grit came bubbling right up! It put quite the dent in that fresh and genuine Hoover bag!
Ok, enough giving John his daily Hoover fix, on a scale of Dyson to Kirby (with Dyson being 'why on earth did I waste my money on this' and Kirby being 'golly gee I should've bought this 21 years, 5 months, 24 days, 9 minutes and 17 seconds ago!!') ,I rate this Kenmore at a 4.7, which is capable of average vacuuming with few exceptions. |
Post# 291820 , Reply# 5   8/3/2014 at 21:15 (3,568 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 291821 , Reply# 6   8/3/2014 at 21:19 (3,568 days old) by marks_here (_._)   |   | |
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Post# 291835 , Reply# 7   8/3/2014 at 22:35 (3,567 days old) by DesertTortoise ()   |   | |
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Alex, I think Merry Maids is easier and less costly than your Sunday was. |
Post# 291836 , Reply# 8   8/3/2014 at 22:35 (3,567 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Desert Tortoise:
I have that same modern Progressive and HATE most of the dusting function, for the reasons you've stated. That large, clunky dusting brush is compromised because of its huge opening - air rushes around it and doesn't concentrate the suction well. And, that silly horsehoof slotted upholstery thingie is not very effective, and not easy to attach and remove. My biggest problem is the size of the dusting brush, though. I have narrow windowsills, and it is very hard to get the brush into and around the ledges. It doesn't fit easily into many smaller spaces like the great old horsehair brush version does.
I do like the bare floor tool, though. Though the number of bristles looks wimpy, it actually picks ups well, and the swivel function is useful. As a rug cleaner, this model is very effective. The brushroll is great. But, as an above-the-floor machine, it is pretty much useless. There are actually a few other Progressives with this same attachment set-up. I hope they deep-six this idea very fast, because it is not Kenmore's most brilliant design. Like you, I got it at a bargain. I would've been very mad if I had paid full price. |
Post# 291841 , Reply# 10   8/3/2014 at 22:40 (3,567 days old) by marks_here (_._)   |   | |
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Post# 291863 , Reply# 12   8/4/2014 at 01:40 (3,567 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Oh no, tortoise guy! The hose wouldn't go into the vacuum all the way, due to me not having a proper 5042 bag (I was using a 5011 due to me needing to go to the vacuum store!!!!). If it didn't unplug there, it would unplug where the power-nozzle plugs in. The rainbow hose end fits snugly on the Kenmore wand, and the rainbow has a power-nozzle cord that runs along the exterior of the hose. The power-nozzle plug then easily plugs into the Kenmore's unusual plug.
I wouldn't let Merry Maids clean for me,I would have nowhere to vacuum!! 'That's not a wet-vac, that's my Kirby!! (Except the model 557!!)', ' you thought the WHAT was trash!?'. Oh it would be hectic!
Kenmore did have awesome tools,I love the tools on my Duo-Power! I'll be honest, I used KIRBY tools on the Kenmore, AND the Hoover! Give me an hour warning before John sees this thread, need to get to the bunker!! |
Post# 291934 , Reply# 14   8/4/2014 at 16:55 (3,567 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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I too have a current Progressive and agree the tools are not as good. The first gen Progressives had the best attachments, as they used the full size set from the first 5055 bag and Whispertone canisters. On the second gen they started to cheapen a bit, the dusting brush and fabric brush were just a single combo tool, but still decent. The crevice tool was a bit shorter and the floor brush was the same as older sets.
Out of the tools on my Progressive, I like the crevice tool least. The vents on the side cause it to have very little suction. My dusting brush has horsehair bristles that are a bit fuller than on the white and blueberry models, so it's a little better. It is impossible to vacuum tight spaces though because it is so big. I actually think the floor brush is better than on the older models, as it tilts and has that felt pad to keep from scraping. And mine at least, has horsehair bristles. The attachments on the lime and orange canisters, the crevice tool is a little better. The combo brush is the same as on the uprights and is IMO, awful. Short scratchy bristles and the brush is too small. The floor brush is the older style that goes back to 1983, but the bristles are very stiff on these newer ones. It least it has the metal end hose still so can use any 1-1/4" attachments such as the dusting brush. Will a 5045/H bag fit the Singer made Kenmore? Seems like it might work, maybe if the cardboard was trimmed a bit. |
Post# 291956 , Reply# 17   8/4/2014 at 20:19 (3,567 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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Post# 292096 , Reply# 19   8/5/2014 at 22:42 (3,565 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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To me the hose and wand connection on the new Progressives is very similar to that of Aerus. It appears the Pet Powermate is the same actually as the Aerus Sidekick.
And the new Intuition Elite use the same hose ends as the Progressives. However the attachments are different. It has the angle brush and an oval dusting brush. Not sure about the crevice tool, but the attachments all store on board. Makes me wonder if it was complaints about the Progressive's attachments that led them to decide to not use them for the new Intuition Elite. I think the Progressive tools were meant to be more convenient and modern. Many new canisters have the tools stored on the handle. I will say its convenient to remove the wand and have the dusting brush already in place. |
Post# 292135 , Reply# 21   8/6/2014 at 12:26 (3,565 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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The older blue Intuition still used the metal end hose and wands that would work with older attachments. But, the new silver Intuition Elite does not. It uses a hose and wand connection like the Progressives. However the attachments are different than the Progressives use and store on board. It has an angle brush as well as a small dusting brush.
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Post# 292148 , Reply# 22   8/6/2014 at 14:35 (3,565 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID)   |   | |
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well, have I got a piece of ancient history for you! I know it's not a canister, but it's still VERY vintage.
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Post# 292150 , Reply# 23   8/6/2014 at 14:36 (3,565 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()   |   | |
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Now there's a Kenmore worth owning. |
Post# 292152 , Reply# 24   8/6/2014 at 14:42 (3,565 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID)   |   | |
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Thanks! I picked it up from a friend yesterday along with a beautiful Hoover 28 and a bunch of parts, bags, and odds and ends. He's moving out-of-state, and I'm a little disappointed because I've gotten a bunch of cool machines from him.
Anyways, the Kenmore is in sort of rough shape, I will probably replace the cord and give the whole machine a once-over one of these days. It'll probably end up being more of a show machine than a daily driver. |
Post# 292154 , Reply# 25   8/6/2014 at 14:47 (3,565 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()   |   | |
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Jaker15,
It's definitely a show piece. I'd get it as nice as possible without bojacking it completely and use it only sporadically just to keep the bearings and everything else turning as it should. |
Post# 292157 , Reply# 26   8/6/2014 at 14:54 (3,565 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID)   |   | |
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Post# 292164 , Reply# 27   8/6/2014 at 15:46 (3,565 days old) by DesertTortoise ()   |   | |
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Wow ! That is an amazing vacuum. How old do you reckon it is? Does it run and have a brush? |
Post# 292184 , Reply# 28   8/6/2014 at 17:17 (3,565 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID)   |   | |
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Post# 292209 , Reply# 29   8/6/2014 at 19:54 (3,565 days old) by DesertTortoise ()   |   | |
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1930's! Double WOW. And she still runs. Very cool, you really scored. |
Post# 292245 , Reply# 30   8/6/2014 at 23:51 (3,564 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 292250 , Reply# 31   8/7/2014 at 00:43 (3,564 days old) by DesertTortoise ()   |   | |
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I won't live long enough to see any of my vacuums grow that old. |
Post# 292255 , Reply# 32   8/7/2014 at 01:05 (3,564 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID)   |   | |
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Post# 315765 , Reply# 35   2/17/2015 at 13:10 (3,370 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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My ex-wife insisted we buy a burgundy Progressive back in late 2001. It worked okay, but the plastic was ridiculously flimsy. The part where the hose connected to the canister cracked all too easily. We got it replaced once under warranty, but when I left her and that POS vacuum behind in the fall of 2003, the second connector was already broken and held together with nylon cable ties. What a waste of $375. I'm glad to be rid of both her and the vacuum.
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