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Post# 287526   7/6/2014 at 20:17 (3,596 days old) by firebirdman55 (Owensboro Kentucky)        

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I have been wondering lately...which is more preferred for you all...an upright or canister?

For me personally, I prefer uprights. I have never liked canister vacs. I find them annoying for me to use. I wouldn't trade any of my Kirbys, Eureka uprights, or Hoover Convertible for anything.

On the other hand, I have heard many people say they prefer canisters. What are the pros and cons of each to you?


Post# 287527 , Reply# 1   7/6/2014 at 20:31 (3,596 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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I need both: an upright for deep cleaning of carpets and a canister for everything else. After years of trying out power nozzle canisters and uprights with on-board tools, I think you get better performance and actually less problems with a pair of vacs. And often for less money than an overly-complicated, bulky, heavy, cumbersome combination vac. Just my preference.

My current dynamic duo is a great pair: Hoover's Platinum Lightweight Bagged Upright (CAD$340 on sale at Sears Canada), and Miele's S2 Contour/Olympus suction only canister (CAD$350 on sale at Canadian Tire with Mini Turbo included).

When it comes to vacs, I say "keep it simple"!


Post# 287534 , Reply# 2   7/6/2014 at 21:50 (3,595 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I would second Eurekaprince's assessment of the pros of the uprights and canisters and would also add that a canister provides more efficient versatility--especially when compared to the traditional uprights that do not have the detachable hose. For example, it is quite easy for me to vacuum between my great room (w/wall to wall carpeting), dining, and kitchen areas (wooden floors/rugs) by switching back and forth between the power nozzle and floor/rug nozzle. The narrow space cleaner and dusting brush/upholstery tool are also conveniently usable for the furniture in those rooms. I was even able to readily take care of a cobweb in the corner of the vaulted ceiling (between 9 and 10 feet) by using some extra wands.

Having a "dynamic duo" may work well for some, however keeping carpets clean is also affected by frequency of vacuuming, the timeliness of cleaning up spills or messes, the use of quality door mats and carpet runners, and how often--if at all--footwear is worn (barefooters can wipe their unclean feet with towelettes) which increase or diminish the need for deep cleaning. The quality of the cleaning (a quick once over versus a thorough twice over) is another consideration. Correspondingly, one needs to consider the totality of the floor care treatment. Shampooing and or steaming/rinsing/extracting periodically contribute to the overall condition of rugs and carpets.

Of course, variables are also an important part of the equation: rural or urban (types of contaminants), geographic location (routinely dry/windy versus humid/calm), adults and children (likelihood of messes), or just adults, type of carpet nap (loops or threads) , household or commercial (volume and type of foot traffic), et cetera.

So, I would say the issue is a personal preference--not which one is more effective than the other. What it most crucial is the person(s) who run the machines and use the liquid and dry chemicals; followed by properly-maintained equipment and good quality products.


Post# 287536 , Reply# 3   7/6/2014 at 22:18 (3,595 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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Kirby is the only way to go...I needn't say more.

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Post# 287538 , Reply# 4   7/6/2014 at 22:30 (3,595 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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While I collect both, I prefer a power nozzle canister with a long hose. The power nozzle fits into tight spaces easily, and is easier to push than many uprights. The long hose means the canister doesn't need to be pulled as much and is out of the way. And the attachments are already there and effective.

Uprights, especially modern ones can be bulky and hard to manuever. The onboard hoses are often nearly impossible to use because the stretch hoses tend to spring back and pull the machine over or if not stretch type they are short. And in any case with onboard tools it is harder to move the vacuum around while using the hose than a canister. These tools and hoses seem to be for smaller jobs rather than dusting a whole room, though it can be done. Most of the older pan converter machines did allow the machine to be pulled however.

So that's my take. Sometimes I use both to clean but find it's quicker to use one machine that can do it all and be done.


Post# 287545 , Reply# 5   7/6/2014 at 23:22 (3,595 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Prefer both. If I had to pick one, canister with power nozzle, easier to get into the places I have.

Post# 287551 , Reply# 6   7/6/2014 at 23:42 (3,595 days old) by sries (Tacoma WA)        
It depends

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On what it is in my opinion. I really love the look of vintage canisters but they are kind of awkward to use. I don't like the stiles of many vintage uprights besides hoovers and a few other companies, but I do find that they are easier to move around.

Post# 287563 , Reply# 7   7/7/2014 at 00:38 (3,595 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
For me, naturally.....................

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nothing beats a HOOVER "Comvertible". I use the tools, although NOT the strongest. I ALSO love the Constellation. A very strong vacuum. I grew up never having a canister. So, of course, they didn't appeal to me. But, now, I love 'em both!!

Post# 287567 , Reply# 8   7/7/2014 at 01:00 (3,595 days old) by d-jones (Pittsburgh)        

As I've said before when this subject came up(which it seems to do with regularity)I use both a Filter Queen canister and a Hoover upright, it just depends on what I'm doing. If it's just the carpets then the Hoover deals with it, but if I'm doing the whole enchilada then I bring out the Filter Queen.

Post# 287591 , Reply# 9   7/7/2014 at 07:07 (3,595 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Although I have both, I prefer a cannister. Normally when I vacuum I am doing bare floors, carpet and above the floor cleaning all at the same time so it is much easier to switch between attachments. Also as others have stated, a cannister power head fits easier into tighter quarters than say a Kirby (which I also have). If I am just doing a quick vacuum of the carpet then I will get out the Kirby.

Gary


Post# 287594 , Reply# 10   7/7/2014 at 07:30 (3,595 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY)        
Personal Preference.......

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You know, I think John Long touched on a very good point....a lot of one's personal preference depends on what you grew up with. I personally grew up with an Electrolux Olympia One canister vac with a power nozzle. My mom swore by them and I have to say that old vac stood the test of time at our house, in fact I STILL have it and it's running as good now as it did in 1980 when she bought it! When I bought my first house, it had a combo of carpeting and linoleum flooring and I preferred to use a combo of an upright and a canister. I had a classic Hoover Convertible for my carpets (and a Kirby G5) and of course an Electrolux Silverado for my hard surfaces, although I would on occasion hook up the PN and use it on carpeting too if I was too lazy to pull out the Convertible!

Jump forward to my current house, it's all hardwood/laminate and I prefer a canister vacuum all the way as my uprights just don't fair too well on that type of flooring (I found that out the hard way last weekend when I attempted to cheat and use my Kirby G6 in the kitchen!) I still collect both types of vacuums and absolutely love the styling of both, but for my use, I'll reach for a canister anytime over an upright!


Post# 287596 , Reply# 11   7/7/2014 at 07:32 (3,595 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
For me....

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I'm a Kirby guy so I prefer a upright. Especially with the Kirby being as versatile as it is I can quickly clean all my surfaces and deep clean my carpets. I do like cylinder/canister vacs. I do find the ones with electric hoses and electric power heads heavier and bulkier to use. But as a collector I like them. Especially the straight suction Electroluxs I grew up with.

 

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Post# 287597 , Reply# 12   7/7/2014 at 07:51 (3,595 days old) by kenkart ()        
Canister..

Or tank, I have some uprights, but rarely use them, and I like straight suction machines much better than Power Nozzle stuff.I really like a canister better than a tank...I see electroluxes referred to as canisters a lot...but they are not, A Filter Queen is a canister, an Electrolux is a tank.

Post# 287772 , Reply# 13   7/8/2014 at 13:43 (3,594 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        
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I grew up whit a Hoover Celebrity II canister vacuum so for me using a canister is no problem .Now i use my Trusty Compact C9 and i love that machine my grand ma use to have one now i have my own .I also own a Electrolux upright Discovery II .
Canister are a breeze for me to use i have floor and carpet so i can switch betwen floor and carpet easy whit the compact and the power brush deep clean very well.My electrolux clean good to as mention up right hose are short and hard to use whit out tiping the vac over found the out whit a bissel up right .
Canister like Filter Queen Electrolux and Compact Tristar and Eureka have strong suction and deep cleaning power head my go to for me but evry now and then the lux gets a go at the whole house does quite well .So for me it depends on the job .
MY DAYLY DRIVERS as i call em lol are my trusty compact and the lux upright
whole house = compact , quick carpet pass = lux and some time whole house
Honestly im divided i like both


Post# 287773 , Reply# 14   7/8/2014 at 14:10 (3,594 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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For me I like both, but now the house we live in is mainly hardwood with area rugs.
So for now, a canister with a power head works the best.

It amazes me how so many vacuum companies now claim that their upright is capable of bare floor cleaning and good attachment usage. None of which is remotely close to being true.

Kirby and Royal offer great above the floor and hardwood floor cleaning with their attachments, so I use both when I feel like using an upright. Sometimes it is fun to use a Hoover Dial-A-Matic as well. Not fond of Hoover tools, but the novelty of it makes it fun.

All new vacuums have cheapened tools and hoses to a point of being almost useless. Stretch hoses, telescoping wands, combination dusting and upholstery tools that are worthless, plastic bristles that scratch the furniture....oh my rant could go on and on...

To sum it up,.....depends on my mood and what I feel like using at the time. If I only had one vacuum, it would more than likely be a Kirby if the house is wall to wall carpet, I would love an Aerus Platinum if I had mainly hardwood and area rugs.



Post# 287774 , Reply# 15   7/8/2014 at 14:34 (3,594 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I just had new wall to wall carpeting installed on the entire main floor (entrance stairs, dining/living room, hallway and 2 bedrooms) of my house about a month ago. I have both a Kirby and a Aerus Guardian Platinum. I have used both on the carpet and must say I much prefer the Platinum. It leaves better carpet tracks which I like and grooms the carpet well. I find that the Kirby, because it is so heavy, leaves wheel marks on the carpeting from the rear drive wheels even when finishing with a back stroke.

Gary


Post# 287777 , Reply# 16   7/8/2014 at 15:08 (3,594 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

I have both but for most work a canister just is easier to use. I think the choice of powered brush has a large effect on what one prefers. If your experience with canisters was always with a lousy powered brush, then you may tend to prefer an upright. But a canister with a really good powered brush might make you lean towards canisters over uprights.

We have always had either a Kenmore Powermate or Hayden Deluxe powered brush and both outclean any upright we have tried (Hoover, Eureka and more recently Windsor). The Wessel-Werk powered brush we have, however, is nowhere near as effective on carpet as even our cheapest upright vac. A powered brush on a long hose is also a lot easier to push around than any of the uprights we have used and the Powermate/Hayden head can get under just about any piece of furniture we have. I also like the ease of disassembly for maintenance and repairs of canister vacs and their powered brushes.

For dusting, chasing cobwebs in ceiling corners or cleaning cars there is no substitute for a canister, it's tools and a pair of button lock extension wands. Uprights just don't do these things well.

Vinvac, I could not have said it better regarding the "tools" (childrens toys) that modern vacs are now equipped with. Calling them useless is an understatement. Worse yet, judging from the quantity of tools I see for sale on eBay, even these chintzy tools are outlasting their their even cheaper host vacuums.


Post# 287780 , Reply# 17   7/8/2014 at 15:54 (3,594 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Uprights or canisters?

I think a lot depends on the living situation.
When I had a one floor house with wall to wall carpeting- I loved my Kirby and the dusting tools.
Now that I have a house with 2 floors, carpeting, area rugs, wood floors and lots of hard surface floors-the Kirby become almost useless except for going through the middle of the room and unlike many of the posters I do not want to mess with 2 vacuums. Also as I have progressed through life, I used to make fun of people who said the Kirby was TOO HEAVY to use. Now I agree. I still like the Kirby and the way it's made but just too heavy and I don't like messing with changing the tools.

Once I got used to using the Rainbow, I just can't stand using a bagged machine and storing the dirt and dealing with the smell. In my particular situation, the Rainbow is well worth any extra effort to set up. There just is no leaking dust and big improvement in my allergies. I also really,really love the fact that I can wet clean the hard surface floors by just changing out the lower wand and tool.

I think John is correct in that most people seem to prefer what type they grew up using. No right or wrong answer on this thread.



Post# 287781 , Reply# 18   7/8/2014 at 15:55 (3,594 days old) by kenkart ()        
All you have to do///

To see how bad the new stuff is, Is use a AirWay with the metal tools they used to come with!!Compare that to the junk sold today!

Post# 287784 , Reply# 19   7/8/2014 at 16:01 (3,594 days old) by marks_here (_._)        
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Just put in a hose and away you go!!!

Post# 287802 , Reply# 20   7/8/2014 at 17:44 (3,594 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Canisters Try My Patience

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I use a nice, powerful, lightweight upright for 90% of our floors, but a tiny Electrolux Ultra Quiet canister to get under bookcases and what-not. I can see how that canister is going to meet its end. It will probably be thrown out a window! I get so annoyed when it gets hung up around a corner, or snagged on one thing or another. I just want grab the hose with both hands and yank the snot out of it! Grrrrrrrrrrr...

How anybody can tolerate that to do their whole house is beyond me!


Post# 287810 , Reply# 21   7/8/2014 at 18:19 (3,594 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I sometimes use the handle to carry or hold the canister when vacuuming in smaller quarters or around corners.

All of the cleaners--canisters, tanks, and uprights--have their disadvantages along with their advantages.


Post# 287815 , Reply# 22   7/8/2014 at 18:31 (3,594 days old) by kirbybag (topeka ks )        
kirby

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i agree kirby the way number 1.

Post# 287839 , Reply# 23   7/8/2014 at 21:20 (3,594 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
I Like All Three--Uprights, Tanks, And Canisters!

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And Hans, I agree with you 100%! You hit the nail right on the head--a tank is a tank and a canister is a canister! I like and use all three kinds, but probably use the uprights more often because of carpeting in our home, especially my 903 Electro-Hygiene. I also use my Electrolux G with power nozzle frequently. And of course, I always use a tank or canister to vacuum the car.
And for those of you who still don't get it, these are TANKS!
Jeff


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Post# 287841 , Reply# 24   7/8/2014 at 21:30 (3,594 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        

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And these are CANISTERS! Get it? Got it? Good!
Jeff


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Post# 287855 , Reply# 25   7/9/2014 at 00:05 (3,593 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
I get it now!

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Now, to recap, this is an UPRIGHT, correct? 

 

(Ducks and runs!!!!tongue-out)


Post# 287903 , Reply# 26   7/9/2014 at 10:59 (3,593 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        
Kirby for me.

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I have a spacious apartment that is 90% wall to wall carpet except for Kitchen and bathroom. So I love to use one of my 3 Kirby's to clean the carpet. I have no problem converting to hose mode once a week for above the floor cleaning.

Post# 287905 , Reply# 27   7/9/2014 at 11:05 (3,593 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

It's an upright only when you stand it on end Supersweeper. :o

Hygiene, your def of a tank or a canister is too narrow. Something like a Kemore Whispertone or some of my own Kenmores have qualities of both.

Tank or canister?



Post# 287958 , Reply# 28   7/9/2014 at 14:34 (3,593 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
neither!

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It's also and upright!!tongue-out

 

It's defiantly a canister, tanks are classified as being much narrower!


Post# 288009 , Reply# 29   7/9/2014 at 22:35 (3,592 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Good Point!

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Some vacs don't quite fit in either category, but we could probably include them with the canisters. That would include most Kenmores from the late 50's onward, Sunbeam Courier, Compact and Revelation, Hoover Portables and Slimlines, just to name a few.
Jeff


Post# 288021 , Reply# 30   7/10/2014 at 00:45 (3,592 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

It would be helpful for you to provide a clear definition of a tank and a canister ... or a list of descriptors. In looking through many old vacuum cleaner advertisements online most did not use either term; nor do the Electrolux owner's manuals I have. Some ads from the '50s called them 'tank-type' or 'tank', the 1965 Electrolux Model CB manual used the term 'canister', and a Sears Kenmore ad from the early '70s mentioned 'canister', but that was it. I also ran across the terms 'cylinder-type' or 'cylinder'.

I don't mean any disrespect, but were the definitions created by collectors or by the vacuum cleaner industry? Online searches don't produce any definitive information, and the terms 'canister' and 'tank' seem to be used interchangeably. Even dictionary.com did not include vacuum cleaner definitions in their entries for 'canister' and 'tank'.

Maybe when all is said and done Juliet had it right when she said, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." If there are industry terms let's use them correctly. Otherwise, let's chalk it up to personal preference and move forward.


Post# 288025 , Reply# 31   7/10/2014 at 01:34 (3,592 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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I would like to add a little addendum to ( sptyks )'s deep insight into the magnificent design of the Kirby. For instance, its simple tool application is but mere child's play - so easy to use. If you desire a canister...Presto, you have one! If you want to maintain an upright, you don't have to do anything at all. Kirby is such a powerful, versatile/multipurpose machine, and it does what it supposed to do so very well - truly, a great vacuum!

Post# 288035 , Reply# 32   7/10/2014 at 07:48 (3,592 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
Canisters

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For me, as much as I have upright vacuums & use them, I prefer a canister vacuum with a PN for daily cleaning. Being an apartment dweller, canister vacuums are just more practical! A lot easier to get under & around furniture, easier to use hose, wands & attachments to clean high places, & cleans hard floors easier & with less fuss than dealing with an upright's powerhead & stopping the brushroll, or converting the hose to use with a wand & floor brush. Also, being an apartment dweller, a canister can more easily taken to a new place & be used than an upright can. What if your new apartment has all hardwood floors? You're out of luck there if you have an upright!

Rob


Post# 288036 , Reply# 33   7/10/2014 at 08:18 (3,592 days old) by kenkart ()        
Canister/tank...

All vacuums with hoses were called tanks up into the 30s, the Rexair and Filter Queen were initally referred to as "Pot" cleaners, but that name had given way to canisterby the 50s...a tank, or cylinder, as they are called in Europe,is simply that, a round or other shape machine as long as the hose is in front and then the bag, motor, and exhaust ...a canister can be round square or any other shape, but the hose will come out of the top or side usually..Electroluxes are tanks, Lewyts, Filter Queens and GE Swivel tops are canisters!

Post# 288042 , Reply# 34   7/10/2014 at 09:29 (3,592 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Canister for me all the way

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While I have a large collection of uprights, I simply prefer a canister for its versatility. I grew up with a Rainbow and an Electrolux. My mother believed uprights were useless. A neighbor bought a Dual 80 Kirby when I was a kid. We went over to look at it. While the neighbor made us some tea, my mother commented "that thing is worthless". I asked "why". She smacked the lady's sofa, and dust rose up. Triumphant, my mother said "See, worthless". I've hated Kirby vacuums ever since.

When we got home, my mother smacked our sofa, and nothing happened. The Rainbow salesman told her when she bought the cleaner to use the upholstery tool on the sofa EVERY TIME she came to it while cleaning. She used all her attachments, especially the dusting brush and crevice tool. She mopped the kitchen with the Rainbow and the bare floor tool.

As an adult, I got into uprights for their quick carpet cleaning. But I've always felt they lacked something.

While I still love the Rainbow, I also like the new Sirena (it's VERY good). The Filter Queen and Tri-Star are also favorites. Hoover's heart was never in canisters, still waiting for them to make a really good one. I love Electrolux, so easy to use and a very high quality machine. My absolute favorite bagged vacuum to use of all time, is a Signature Series Air-Way Sanitizor.

Overall, if I had to pick one vacuum (canister) to use for the rest of my life, I'd probably pick a Rainbow. There's nothing it cannot do.


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Post# 288044 , Reply# 35   7/10/2014 at 09:45 (3,592 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Its surprising how many folks skip cleaning their furniture! I just cleaned a friends custom made $$$ sectional, she saw the water and said where did that come from? I said, so you vacuum this every week right? Well, no. Ah, that is the dust you don't clean off it in 6 years.

Post# 288057 , Reply# 36   7/10/2014 at 11:28 (3,592 days old) by bebring (Québec)        
Canister

I prefer canister because it more versatile and it easier to clean under furniture or behind it. The majority of the floor at my home, is hard floor. Maybe the reason I prefer canister, is when I was young, my mother had a Kenmore canister and I loved to play with this vacuum. You can see on the picture of my profile, it me with this vacuum in the Ford Tempo of my parent.

Post# 288060 , Reply# 37   7/10/2014 at 11:52 (3,592 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Power Nozzle canister for me!!

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No matter the job, I love a power nozzle canister. Whether it's a quick cleaning or full detail. I can buzz around quick. There are times I'll do an upright but mostly I'm canister. I've been using them for so long it takes seconds to switch from power nozzle to attachments and also setting up or breaking down to put cord away. I love the cord winder feature.

The main things I love is that a canister with good hose length gives the ability to clean lots of area with only maneuvering an approximate 1.25" wand along beds, furniture and other things. I don't like the bulk of pushing around uprights especially many of the Sharks and Dysons on the market now. I really don't like maneuvering a Kirby either, with the power drive and all the settings.

On a canister I don't have to tap the handle release pedal a 2nd time to go all the way down to the floor. I can maneuver under dining room chairs, coffee tables and beds with great ease and I feel it's a very thorough clean just depends on the machine. I particularly love Hoover canisters, Eureka RotoMatic power teams, Riccar full size power nozzle machines and Rainbow E2 new version with LED headlights and swivel steering. Kenmore canisters I don't do as well with because the CenTec power heads don't allow the wand to go all the way down to the floor with out the agitator lifting up. I also don't like the bare floor brush that comes on the Kenmore canisters.


Post# 288062 , Reply# 38   7/10/2014 at 11:54 (3,592 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        
Kirby The Great

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I really believe Kirby is a fantastic upright and canister, Hey, that's two vacuums in one! Kirby gets the job done with zeal.

Post# 288066 , Reply# 39   7/10/2014 at 12:48 (3,592 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Bebring, I can't see the entire vac in your avatar photo, but the lid looks an awful lot like my 1971 vintage Kenmore I call the Avocado Bomber. Those were heavy duty vacuums, all steel beneath the lid. Simple and durable machines. I understand their effect on your choice of vacuums as an adult. Lol, boy do I!

Post# 288077 , Reply# 40   7/10/2014 at 14:21 (3,592 days old) by ronni (USA)        

It is easy for me to see why there are such a variety of vacuum cleaners after reading the replies in this thread ... there is a huge variety of users, flooring surfaces (sizes and materials), and room usages!

Just think how dull our lives would be if there were only one brand, type, style, and color vacuum cleaner--not to mention if we all had the same opinions.



Post# 288089 , Reply# 41   7/10/2014 at 16:02 (3,592 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Since I have 70% hardwood and 30% carpet, and there is absolutely no other way to clean above the floor but too vacuum, canister(tank) for me.

Post# 288096 , Reply# 42   7/10/2014 at 16:33 (3,592 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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I know exactly what you mean: I too have a two-story house, and I just can't imagine dragging a canister up the stairs, not when I can just sling a Kirb and get the job done - once and for all.

Post# 288127 , Reply# 43   7/10/2014 at 20:10 (3,592 days old) by bebring (Québec)        

DesertTortoise, I don't have a picture of the vacuum :(, my mother was more interrested by it's boy than the vacuum. This vacuum no longer exist :(, 20 years later, the belt of the power nozzle break and after the motor run out, it was the bearing. The back of the vacuum under the motor was in steel. My uncle still have one, a blue color one.

This is the a vacuum how is almost the same, but the one of my mother was white and it was write simpsons sears on it.


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Post# 288148 , Reply# 44   7/10/2014 at 23:15 (3,591 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

Calem,

 

Honestly we get it. You love your Kirby. I like the 3 I have, but they just aren't the end all, be all vacuum for some of us. I find it nowhere as convenient or easy to constantly convert any Kirby to it's various uses as you seem to and even my D50 weighs more than many of my Electrolux tanks and I don't have to reconfigure them to vacuum my way up the stairs. By all means, enjoy your Kirby. Others just don't always share your devotion to the brand.

 

Tom


Post# 288158 , Reply# 45   7/11/2014 at 01:05 (3,591 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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I apologize for my Kirby jibber-jabber, earlier. But I received some dyer news from my Internist, just today! He informed me that I had the most severe case of Kirbyitis he had ever seen in all of his 40 plus yrs. of practicing medicine. Of which he further stated, " There is no known cure!" But there is consolation, for it was entirely treatable, and what follows is what he prescribed, " You must acquire more and more Kirbys if you wish to stay alive!" Most happily, I must undergo this therapy for the remainder of my natural life. Now, as I'm inclined to think, it seems that most are afflicted to some degree with this very disorder, and if you need any further proof: forums like this exist.

Post# 288171 , Reply# 46   7/11/2014 at 06:24 (3,591 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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This is my strategy for using my "canister + upright" duo to clean a room: I use my lightweight, suction only canister (with lightweight hose and simple non-bulky handle) to clean the room from top to bottom. Then I use my lightweight, low wattage, fan-first Hoover upright to finish the job by deep cleaning the carpets. For the carpets, I begin in the far end of the room and work backwards so that I don't leave any footprints and so that the vac cleans up any dirt from my shoes.

I find it very difficult to work backwards with a power nozzle canister: you are always repositioning the main unit so that you don't trip over it as work backwards over the carpet. To me canisters are meant to trail behind you as you move forward - they are not meant for vacuuming as you "back out of" a room.

Again, just my preference. :-)


Post# 288177 , Reply# 47   7/11/2014 at 08:53 (3,591 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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We clean a bit alike!

Post# 288178 , Reply# 48   7/11/2014 at 09:21 (3,591 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Bebring, the vacuum in your post is the model that came immediately after my Avocado Bomber. The lower body of the one in your post is ivory colored plastic, and darned good plastic at that. There were versions cast in blue and green as well as ivory. The wood grain on the lid is, um, so Plymouth Valiant dashboard. The last couple of years the lids were body color with some orange and brown graphics. Kinda disco but more subdued that faux wood.

I have two of those beasts. I think they are probably the best canister vacs Sears ever sold and one of the five or ten best canister vacs of all time. That is one rugged machine. I especially like how the motor compartment is arranged. Exhaust air has to go through a filter to exit the vacuum. There are no routes for leakage out the cord opening or through openings for switches like one finds on later Kenmores. I use bulk filter material from Electrolux behind the secondary filter under that plastic grid over the fan. It comes in big sheets. There isn't enough clearance under the lid for the HEPA dome filters that fit on top of the fan. I tried (I can however use one on the Avocado Bomber). I also use moder Kenmore filters in the exhaust.

Thanks for the tip of using a backpack vac HEPA bag. That is the last piece of the puzzle for me and my allergy suffering fiancee, except those red bag adapters shown so vividly in one of the images. I still need at least one (please, anyone, help me find one, I will grovel shamelessly and do embarassing and degrading things to obtain one).

I'll throw in a couple of images of the Avocado Bomber. The body is two pieces of very heavy steel but the lid is not so well made. The plastic hinge failed and I haven't yet come up with a replacement. There is no way of filtering the exhaust air, it comes out of every seam between the two halves of the lower body, out the cord opening and out a little round exhaust. It's kinda primative but it has sentimental value as I mostly grew up with it. A real bummer about the hinge. I sincerely do not want to have to retire this vac.


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Post# 288189 , Reply# 49   7/11/2014 at 10:08 (3,591 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

Calem,

 

I appreciate your enthusiasm for Kirby, just got a bit perturbed seeing it in every other post. My apologies for posting after a particularly trying day, I should have refrained.

 

Tom


Post# 288196 , Reply# 50   7/11/2014 at 10:37 (3,591 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

The one quality of my Windsor upright that I cherish, and that a canister probably could never duplicate, is that ten meter long cord. I can plug the Windsor in at a hallway outlet and vacuum all three bedrooms without unplugging. For a canister with a cord reel to have that much cord the reel would have to be huge, or you would have to wrap the cord around the outside of the vac (fugly on a canister).

As for backing a canister out of a room, I have as much difficulty with the cord on an upright. The tactic I use is to go forward, not backward with either vac. You can also put long hoses on a canister with excellent suction, 8-10 feet, and somewhat ameliorate the problem.


Post# 288201 , Reply# 51   7/11/2014 at 10:53 (3,591 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I had a gray Kenmmore Progressive, maybe 8 years ago? that had I think 27 ft cord, not sure where it put it,it was their TOL

Post# 288222 , Reply# 52   7/11/2014 at 13:43 (3,591 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        
Tom,

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That's quite all right, no harm done. As you most probably already know, I collect primarily Kirby vacuums. I must confess, I leave one of them in its canister mode all the time. Why, I even have one dedicated to my sanding wheel, which also serves as a shop-vac. After vacuuming for yrs. with expensive junk, to no avail, I bought my first Kirby, and I've been hooked ever since. I'm just so glad, when I was a child, I didn't have a parent or someone prejudice me against such a fine machine. I never had any interest in vacuums, I just shell out a couple of hundred bucks every other yr. and simply buy a new "fiasco" , and think no more of it. But all that has changed now, and this time for the better!

Post# 288370 , Reply# 53   7/12/2014 at 10:03 (3,590 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
I have both now ...

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I have a brand-new (from last summer) Aerus Guardian Platinum canister which I love (LOOOOOVE being able to get the power nozzle under all my furniture without having to move it), the 8-speed motor for variable dusting, and the ease of switching attachments.

BUT .. the power nozzle just doesn't give me the deep-cleaning in my plush wool rugs that my Kirby D80 gives me.

I feel like I have the best of both worlds now. And the D80 is the newest of the "smaller" Kirbys; the 13-inch nozzle is downright diminutive compared to the much bulkier 16-inch post-1969 nozzles, and maneuvers just as easily as any other upright in my small-ish apartment.


Post# 288372 , Reply# 54   7/12/2014 at 10:21 (3,590 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Sounds like a great combo there Matt

Post# 288379 , Reply# 55   7/12/2014 at 11:13 (3,590 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

NYCwriter. Make up a wand to adapt your Aerus vac to a Hayden/Nutone/Centec powered brush or a Kenmore Powermate (they are all the same head from the same Panasonic plant in Mexico) and see how your Aerus does on carpet with that brush. I don't know who makes the head for Aerus or if they make their own, but from what I have seen the European brushes are miserable on deeper pile carpets (same for some of their uprights) but the Panasonic made brushes, while outwardly kind of crude and old fashioned, do better than most uprights (not sure about Kirbys but certainly better than Hoovers, Windors or Eurekas) in deep pile carpeting. I adapted a Kenmore wand to a Wessel Werk brush, so it can be done. Cost me $5 to do.

Post# 291272 , Reply# 56   7/31/2014 at 14:59 (3,571 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Another "wrinkle in the rug" regarding the terms "canister" and "tank" ...

It seems that Aerus (formerly Electrolux Corporation) calls the machines used with power nozzles "canisters" as evidenced by their model designations which all begin with the letter "C" as well as the "Canisters" tab on its website with no mention of "tanks".

So, as Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers sang, "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off" (from the motion picture "Shall We Dance" by RKO Radio Pictures, 1937).







Post# 291291 , Reply# 57   7/31/2014 at 17:02 (3,571 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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LOL Calem,a Kirby is an upright and a canister! However I don't like using Kirbys after the DS50 as a canister. I find the 2nd gear only creates more noise, the Kirby has enough power with one speed!

 

Kevin, when I get home I'll type out a list of what vacuums fit where! wink


Post# 291310 , Reply# 58   7/31/2014 at 18:01 (3,571 days old) by kirbyduh (Kentucky )        
Canister!

I Always find myself reaching for an Electrolux or Rainbow. My house is almost all hardwood floors with only a couple rooms of carpet and area rugs. A good Electrolux or Rainbow floor tool makes the hardwood gleam. I like to clean the upholstered furniture also when I vacuum, so it is just much more convenient to use a canister. I used to be crazy for Kirbys, but they are not as appealing to me now. They do clean well, but do not groom my rugs or carpet in a satisfactory way. To do any upholstery cleaning or to clean the hardwood would be a chore with the Kirby. I would have to switch between upright and tool mode constantly which is just annoying. Also, I tend to like the hushed tone of vintage electroluxes - I can clean anything without disturbing everyone. Lastly, if I'm too lazy to pull out the power nozzle, the combo rug/floor tool does a satisfactory job cleaning the surfaces of all our rugs.

Post# 291313 , Reply# 59   7/31/2014 at 18:17 (3,571 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Here goes!

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--CASE OF TANK VS. CANISTER--

-Kirby County Court House-

-July 31st,2014-

 

Judge Sanitronic has ruled the following:

 

--TANK TYPE CLEANERS-

 

Royal-Aire cleaners

Royal "Pony" type cleaners

G-E Canisters made prior to 1955

Kenmore "Kenkart" and "Commander" Series

Electrolux cleaners (Excluding model CB and CA)

 

 

--CANISTER TYPE CLEANERS--

 

G-E "Roll-Easy" cleaners

G-E "Swivel-Top" cleaners

Electrolux models CA and CB

Filter-Queen cleaners (Excluding that one upright model)

Compact/Revelation/Tri-Star cleaners

Kenmore "Whispertone","Duo-Power", and other models

 

--UPRIGHTS--

If the court needs to explain this to you, the court will fine you the amount of change found in your Kirby's handle.

 

The court rules that Tank type cleaners are defined by the following characteristics:

 

  • Long, narrow bodies, often times rounded.
  • Features a hose-input at one end of the cylinder/tank, and often times an exhaust port on the opposite end.
  • Features a lid on the input side of the tank. this lide can be removed to access the bag,with the motor positioned directly behind the bag.

The court rules that Canister type cleaners are defined by the following characteristics:

 

  • Short, wide bodies.
  • The hose input is located on the front, top or side of the cleaner.
  • in most cases, the filter-bag is accessed by removing a cover located on top of the cleaner.
  • Retractable cords are built into the cleaner body.

All answers above were decided in a court of Kirby law, in a jury made of vintage Kirby models.If you have any questions, comments or concerns, call us at 5-5701, or write to:

 

KIRBY COUNTY COURT-HOUSE

215 Scuttle Ave.

Jacksonville, FL.

 

Our lovely Secretary Super-Sweep will ensure your letter is handed carefully to our judges. Overnight shipping is available with Sweet-Aire Airmail.Thanks for viewing this court case, have a Kirby day! tongue-out

 


Post# 291350 , Reply# 60   7/31/2014 at 20:02 (3,571 days old) by ctvacman (CT)        
Canisters

My mom would always say people with uprights had dirty houses because they didn't have to tools at hand to stop and clean the couches and stairs etc... I grew up with only electrolux' she said they were the best compared to a rainbow or kirby, and everything else was for poor people haha.

You know what she was right, growing up uprights didn't have the convenience of onboard tools so all of my friends houses that had uprights were a whole lot dirtier than the ones with canisters. With all the onboard tools on most machines this is not really the case anymore. I love a lightweight effective upright for quick cleaning, but usually alway bust out a canister. When used right they won't get hung up on furniture or such.


Post# 291352 , Reply# 61   7/31/2014 at 20:15 (3,571 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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When Kirby's are used right, you don't have to use canisters. No more tripping, no more pulling.

Post# 291353 , Reply# 62   7/31/2014 at 20:17 (3,571 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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...And Oh yeah, NO MORE SWEARING!

Post# 291357 , Reply# 63   7/31/2014 at 20:47 (3,571 days old) by singerman (Missouri)        
canister

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Canister all the way. My moms dyson dc33 is bulky and akward to use. I prefer my simplicity jack.


Post# 291388 , Reply# 64   8/1/2014 at 00:30 (3,570 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        
Alex,

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I think you've violated one of Einstein's Laws of Relativity, regarding the positioning of the viewer to the object in motion. The definition would indeed be relative, and therefore anything's true definition would be amorphous. It would be a fluid construct viewed differently from each perspective along the canister/tank's path.

Post# 291391 , Reply# 65   8/1/2014 at 00:37 (3,570 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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I guess that's tomorrow's court case, Calem! tongue-out


Post# 291394 , Reply# 66   8/1/2014 at 00:45 (3,570 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        
Alex,

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have you happen to check out that video?

Post# 291404 , Reply# 67   8/1/2014 at 03:08 (3,570 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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What tape was it you wanted me to rent, Calem? I don't know what video you speak of tongue-out


Post# 291445 , Reply# 68   8/1/2014 at 11:59 (3,570 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        
You didn't see it!

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Wow! Alex, people just never know what they are missing. I put it in the Thread: That Is Not Right. Be careful when your watching it, it's explosive - don't want you to get hurt. You might lose an eye or something.

Post# 291466 , Reply# 69   8/1/2014 at 14:16 (3,570 days old) by MikePdx ()        
I Like Both

It all depends on what I'm cleaning. Upstairs, I have wood floors and area rugs, I really give the little Hoover S1361 a workout up there and it works fine.

 

Downstairs, I have heavy carpeting everywhere except the bath, so I use my Kirby Heritage II as a daily driver and my Kenmore Power Mate when I need to do corners and above the floor cleaning (which is often with my pups).


Post# 291482 , Reply# 70   8/1/2014 at 15:29 (3,570 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Oh I saw that Calem, I think I get what you're trying to say when comparing the video to modern vacuums tongue-out


Post# 291521 , Reply# 71   8/1/2014 at 22:38 (3,569 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        
Alex,

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it's horrible isn't it? All I can see is " cheap plastic EXPLOSIVE vacs " squeezing out of that poor ole soul's bulbous nose, but nevertheless, a most appropriate comparison.


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