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Post# 254719   10/31/2013 at 07:00 (3,830 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Somewhere at the back of my garden shed is a Hoover TurboPower 2.
I don't know the exact model number off the top of my head... I'll hunt it out later.
However I've never seen one of this design before.... is it rare?

It looks a standard TP2 machine... grey in colour, bagged but with autosense and red furniture guard.

BUT....

The cable enters the machine at the REAR.
Not at the top by the handle like all the other TP 2/3 machines.
Cable enters on the back of the machine close to where the hose wraps around.

Also this machine has TWO on board crevice tools.
The standard TP 2/3 long thin one and also a short stubby one the same that would of been supplied with the TP1 machines.

Are the early TP 2 machines with rear cable entry and two crevice tools rare?

I bought it purely as a machine for spares.... I've taken a rear wheel from it and also the handle release mechanism.... Other than that it is complete and in full working order.

All advice welcome :)

Post# 254722 , Reply# 1   10/31/2013 at 07:35 (3,830 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Not rare at all, just an early version of an original style which was updated around 1994 when the Turbopower 3 went into production.

Post# 254725 , Reply# 2   10/31/2013 at 07:56 (3,830 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Hi Matt,

As Benny said, not rare at all. These were the top end of the standard Turbopower 2 range from 1992 - 1997 when the second generation cleaners came out.

The cable entry was changed in 1994 and the small crevice tool was removed, but this didn't happen with the introduction of the TP3, as Benny indicated, as these didn't arrive until late 1995/early 96. The Turbopower 1000 was still on sale at the time of the changes.

all the best,
Chris

Post# 254726 , Reply# 3   10/31/2013 at 08:17 (3,830 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Chris, I said the changes were made when the Turbopower 3 went into production, not introduction, and this is correct. "Production" would have been at any point prior to the machines being available in-store, which, as I know from the shops around me at that time, was the later part of 1995 for the Turbopower 3. I maybe did not make it as clear as I could have done, for which I apologise.

When the Turbopower 3 cleaner was designed, it was clear that the new, longer hose was going to foul the cable entry point if the design was left as it was. To that end, Hoover redesigned the bag housing unit so as to allow the cable to leave through the top of it. Once put into manufacture, the new bag housing was used with immediate effect for Turbopower 2 models once stock of the older housing had diminished. The Turbopower 1000 was already on borrowed time once the designs for the Turbopower 2 had been finalised, and presumably Hoover held enough stock of the original bag housing, or at the very least was able to make few enough from new, to last the discontinuation period.

As has been said already in the past, the idea of two crevice tools was a rather pointless exercise, so eventually a new storage unit was designed, this time without the section to house a small crevice tool. Again, the discontinuation of the Turbopower 1000 was a chance for Hoover to use-up excess generic parts such as the original tool holder and narrow hose, meaning that new Turbopower 2 models could roll off the line with the all-new modification.

Post# 254727 , Reply# 4   10/31/2013 at 08:19 (3,830 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Typing mistake

 2nd paragraph, 3rd sentence. It was my intention to write "The Turbopower 1000 was already on borrowed time once the designs for the Turbopower 3 had been finalised" but in error I put "Turbopower 2".

Post# 254732 , Reply# 5   10/31/2013 at 08:44 (3,830 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

What, you mean this one?

Post# 254744 , Reply# 6   10/31/2013 at 10:56 (3,830 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Isn't the cable entry at the rear due to all the autosense gubbins being where the cable would normally go?

Post# 254745 , Reply# 7   10/31/2013 at 11:14 (3,830 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

No, not at all. When these cleaners were first designed they all had the mains lead exiting on the rear. When the designing the Turbopower 3, it was necessary to raise the height of the hose for storage purposes, and in doing so would have caught the mains lead if the positioning of it had not been altered.

Post# 254746 , Reply# 8   10/31/2013 at 11:19 (3,830 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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The Autosense is essentially variable power, but instead of being controled by the user, it is controled by a tiny microphone inside the cleaner, which increases the motor speed when it can hear grit being picked up. So the autosense feature wouldn't really have any impact on the point of entry of the cable as the majority of the autosense feature is located further down the machine.

Post# 254749 , Reply# 9   10/31/2013 at 12:37 (3,830 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Yes! Exactly the same as that Dysondestijl lol apart from the one I have has the peelable advert thing on the front still... you know where they advertise how much better than the TP1 it is.

I've never seen an early one before so thought it could of been rare!

Post# 255049 , Reply# 10   11/3/2013 at 17:46 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Oh, so lile this then...

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Post# 255051 , Reply# 11   11/3/2013 at 17:49 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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As you can see the Turbopower 2 has the early cord placement on the left and the re located Turbopower 3 cord entry on the right

Post# 255054 , Reply# 12   11/3/2013 at 17:54 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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And if the cord entry had not changed for the introduction of the Turbopower 3, then this would be the issue created by it.

Post# 255058 , Reply# 13   11/3/2013 at 17:58 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The below picture shows a lot on EBay currently which contains a very rare Turbopower 2 = one with the piston bag door bag full indicator. These were not around very long at all before being replaced with the bag full light, as seen on the other turbopower

CLICK HERE TO GO TO madabouthoovers's LINK on eBay


Post# 255063 , Reply# 14   11/3/2013 at 18:08 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Now THAT

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Is a rare Turbopower 2 and I am extremely surprised that the bag door has not split, those piston bag doors were even more problematic for splitting!

Post# 255066 , Reply# 15   11/3/2013 at 18:13 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Notice as well that they both have their Hoover roundels on the handles - now how many TP2's do you know that still have them on?
They aint that far from me either, but £50 is a bit steep as I don't know whether they work, and the other vacs in the lot are not worth bothering with. I'd only want the 2 turbopowers, and to get one with a piston bag door indicator would be a very good one as they are so rare.

Post# 255068 , Reply# 16   11/3/2013 at 18:16 (3,826 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
the guy doesnt have the piston tp2

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as he sold it to someone already 
Post# 255072 , Reply# 17   11/3/2013 at 18:21 (3,826 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
piston

 A bag door the size of that on the Turbopower cleaners was asking for bother by having a great hole in the middle of it, of all places, for a piston bag-full indicator. It was neither use nor ornament, as it could not be seen by the user when the cleaner was in upright mode. The narrow bore hose meant that a lot of pressure built up behind that door, more so of course if the hose was blocked. And they so often did. The result was the door being sucked right in and splitting.

Post# 255073 , Reply# 18   11/3/2013 at 18:23 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I remember saying that I wouldn't walk over hot coals for a Turbopower 2, I think if it was infront of me now with hot coals before it I would DEFFINATELY make an exception!!!!

Post# 255075 , Reply# 19   11/3/2013 at 18:24 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Michael - But that auction is still live - unless you bought it off him?
did you?

Post# 255076 , Reply# 20   11/3/2013 at 18:24 (3,826 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
no no

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I messaged him about it 
Post# 255078 , Reply# 21   11/3/2013 at 18:27 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 255080 , Reply# 22   11/3/2013 at 18:28 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

What a bummer, then why is he still advertising he has got it then? That vac is like a diamond in the rough - how many on VL would have a TP2 with the bag door piston indicator?

Post# 255081 , Reply# 23   11/3/2013 at 18:30 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I get so angry with Ebay sellers that do that - sell to someone else before the auction ends.

Post# 255082 , Reply# 24   11/3/2013 at 18:31 (3,826 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
why is he still advertising he has got it then?

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well I can assume that he will not know what it is and will probably update his discerption or picture sometime before the auction ends
Post# 255083 , Reply# 25   11/3/2013 at 18:31 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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It is unfortunate, but at the end of the day there is only 1 and someone was bound to have it, that be fairly? That would be a resounding NO! :(

Post# 255096 , Reply# 26   11/3/2013 at 21:06 (3,826 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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You can not imagine how much I am feeling right now when I threw out a spare TP2 door bin last year that had the piston valve indicator!!

Post# 255112 , Reply# 27   11/4/2013 at 03:53 (3,826 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Hopefully the TP2 with the piston bag full indicator has gone to a collector, so at least one of us will have a good example of one to document.

I haven't seen one of those since they were originally on display in Comet. Even later in the run, when the design had been modified, my local Comet had the original TP2 on display.

They had major issues with the bag door splitting and were very quickly modified.

Post# 255175 , Reply# 28   11/4/2013 at 15:49 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Well I got second best anyway - just won my first TP2 1000 Autosense for a fiver. Will collect it tomorrow probs. Whether it works will be another thing. Been after one of the Autosense models for a while now

CLICK HERE TO GO TO madabouthoovers's LINK on eBay


Post# 255178 , Reply# 29   11/4/2013 at 16:08 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I have that :D

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Except mine doesn't have the sales sticker. :(

Post# 255179 , Reply# 30   11/4/2013 at 16:15 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I had one from brand new about 18 years ago, A TP3 Autosense Permabag 2 and I loved it. I think this model was the pre-cursor to the Dustmanager uprights from the Purepower range ie, the permabag system evolved into the dustmanager cassette.

I wish they continued the autosense feature on the Purepower models for longer than they did. To find a Purepower autosense in good working order nowadays very difficult.

Autosense was a gimmick I agree but it was the gimmick to have when I was in my early 20's and I just had to have it. I wish I still had that TP3 model, but I got rid of it when I got the Dyson Dc07.



This post was last edited 11/04/2013 at 16:32
Post# 255182 , Reply# 31   11/4/2013 at 16:17 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I would of loved that piston tp2 aswell, as people will know me, know that I am obcessed with them!! Ahh well, there will be another, but when? Well, maybe Nelson will get his eye back before another one creeps up.


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