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Thread Number: 21643
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| Post# 242153 7/26/2013 at 08:41 (3,926 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Hotpoint have released a new cylinder vacuum cleaner on the market and will be released in August 2013. Branded under a new range of appliances called "HD," the "SL" range of cylinder vacs appear to be quite conventional save for a remote control handle and a novel trolley handle incorporated like trolley suitcases.
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| Post# 242155 , Reply# 1 7/26/2013 at 08:45 (3,926 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242157 , Reply# 2 7/26/2013 at 08:46 (3,926 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242158 , Reply# 3 7/26/2013 at 08:47 (3,926 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242159 , Reply# 4 7/26/2013 at 08:49 (3,926 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Trolley handle. Currently also on sale at www.freemans.com... for £270!
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| Post# 242161 , Reply# 5 7/26/2013 at 08:54 (3,926 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Bagless version at www.grattan.co.uk... (£210).
Also a new Dustmanager and cordless stick vac from Hoover is on catalogues (see post www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...) CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 242175 , Reply# 6 7/26/2013 at 09:56 (3,926 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
Thanks for sharing Ryan. It's nice to see the Hotpoint name back on a vacuum cleaner.
I'm liking the look of this range. I imagine the trolley feature would appeal very much to parts of Europe where uprights are virtually non-existant. And at 1600w, they're not excessively powerful like a lot of cylinders these days. Not as eco-friend as say a Numatic, but certainly steps in the right direction in terms of bringing motor watts down. As Siemens previously manufactured Hotpoint's vacuums, I wonder who is making these? CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK | ||
| Post# 242188 , Reply# 7 7/26/2013 at 12:41 (3,926 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 242212 , Reply# 8 7/26/2013 at 14:15 (3,926 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242340 , Reply# 9 7/27/2013 at 03:08 (3,925 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 242443 , Reply# 10 7/27/2013 at 16:29 (3,925 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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As I have a BJ's Electrical Store across the road from where I work during the summer, they'll probably have these in there at the RRP. Will be cool to go & try one out. Hopefully the Bagless System is better than most. | ||
| Post# 242471 , Reply# 11 7/27/2013 at 19:47 (3,925 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242765 , Reply# 12 7/29/2013 at 09:31 (3,923 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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My parents know lots of people who work at BJ's (we supply them with Sugar & Coffee) & they know about me liking vacuums so they'll let me try one out if they get them. | ||
| Post# 242795 , Reply# 13 7/29/2013 at 14:55 (3,923 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
Hi,
Hi, I was talking to my supplier on Saturday and I told him about Hotpoint bringing a vacuum cleaner back on the market.
He already knew as two weeks before a Hotpoint engineer was at his and was telling him about it. They didn't even know anything about it till they was offered one at a staff discount. He said there are plans to released a Hotpoint upright as well. I don't know more than that. James:o) | ||
| Post# 242796 , Reply# 14 7/29/2013 at 15:23 (3,923 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Can't wait to see them but they will probably be down in price in no time ready for everyone to buy one! WOULD YOU GET THE BAGGED ONE OR BAGLESS ONE??? | ||
| Post# 243579 , Reply# 15 8/3/2013 at 18:34 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Hoover Steamjet tank isn't by Hoover... | ||
| Post# 243580 , Reply# 16 8/3/2013 at 18:36 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 244510 , Reply# 17 8/8/2013 at 15:30 (3,913 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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The new Hotpoint cleaners are on sale - starting at £74.99 for the base model and £229.99 for the TOL.
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| Post# 244512 , Reply# 18 8/8/2013 at 15:41 (3,913 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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That's a good price for the co-op, but people buying them now won't be able to source bags. | ||
| Post# 244514 , Reply# 19 8/8/2013 at 15:46 (3,913 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 244515 , Reply# 20 8/8/2013 at 15:49 (3,913 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Still thats a huge price drop = thank you for that info Chris.
As for the Hotpoint range - the TOL models are copying what Electrolux did back in the 1990s (and Hoover soon followed with their Sensory cylinders) by offering both a bagless style box with ring filter AND the option to pull that out to put a paper bag in. Here, that model shows that instead of the bagless system, it comes with paper bags AND an SMS textile washable bag - Electrolux do that too, but only with a few of their cylinder vacs. | ||
| Post# 244531 , Reply# 22 8/8/2013 at 16:46 (3,913 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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if co-op electrical is run by Euronics then BJ'S Electri | ||
| Post# 244536 , Reply# 23 8/8/2013 at 16:56 (3,913 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Oh rights I see now, sorry for any confusion, you meant off Euronics website. That's what the link is for. Not thinking right ATM! It probs would be that price at BJs anyway, as they're Euronics too. Sorry again. | ||
| Post# 244629 , Reply# 24 8/9/2013 at 06:48 (3,912 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 244637 , Reply# 25 8/9/2013 at 07:01 (3,912 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Just wasn't thinking straight last night LOL but I contacted Hotpoint today & they said bags will be available at the end of the month. I am going to buy one, the orange one, bagged for £99.99 off Euronics (got it right this time!). | ||
| Post# 244639 , Reply# 26 8/9/2013 at 07:06 (3,912 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 244640 , Reply# 27 8/9/2013 at 07:07 (3,912 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I always carry the Vacuum in my hand when I vacuum the stairs. | ||
| Post# 245319 , Reply# 28 8/12/2013 at 05:55 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Sebo_fan, how did you know bagged models come with normal bags & a washable one? | ||
| Post# 245321 , Reply# 29 8/12/2013 at 06:00 (3,909 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well, from the link supplied that Chris gave on here, it does state a textile bag that does come with it.
However the more I think about it, it may be wrong - it may well just be a synthetic disposable dust bag that comes with it. As for cord length, its only 0.5 metres more than what Miele usually supply with their S6 and S8 cylinder vacs. But at the prices Hotpoint are charging, this bagged series at the starting prices are evidently cheaper. I won't know until I get one in the flesh - it may be possible to fit a universal textile SMS washable dust bag to this model anyway. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 245324 , Reply# 30 8/12/2013 at 06:23 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Do you know when you'll be getting one? | ||
| Post# 245334 , Reply# 31 8/12/2013 at 08:05 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Oh yes, Sebo_fan they're just the plain vacuum bags, not washable ones. Like Miele or Sebo kind. | ||
| Post# 245351 , Reply# 32 8/12/2013 at 10:36 (3,909 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 245357 , Reply# 33 8/12/2013 at 11:25 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Better than Made In China then. Which model were you thinking of getting? | ||
| Post# 245359 , Reply# 34 8/12/2013 at 11:27 (3,909 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 245375 , Reply# 35 8/12/2013 at 12:56 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I was thinking BOL too as I want to buy a Bosch MoveOn aswell as other things, plus the lime green colour looks really nice. I was also thinking the orange bagless version too. | ||
| Post# 245380 , Reply# 36 8/12/2013 at 13:13 (3,909 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 245397 , Reply# 38 8/12/2013 at 15:29 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I wasn't going to buy both Hotpoints! I meant either one or the other! | ||
| Post# 245400 , Reply# 39 8/12/2013 at 16:33 (3,909 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 245402 , Reply# 40 8/12/2013 at 16:46 (3,909 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
 "As for the Hotpoint range - the TOL models are copying what Electrolux did back in the 1990s (and Hoover soon followed with their Sensory cylinders) by offering both a bagless style box with ring filter AND the option to pull that out to put a paper bag in."
Ryan would that not also be similar to the Turbopower 2 from the early 90's that had the Permabag box? As you had the option to buy that seperately or if it came with it you could remove it for the replacement of a paper bag. | ||
| Post# 245404 , Reply# 41 8/12/2013 at 16:50 (3,909 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 245408 , Reply# 42 8/12/2013 at 17:05 (3,909 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Alex, I think Benny was referring more to... I was? But where? | ||
| Post# 245411 , Reply# 43 8/12/2013 at 17:07 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Dan It's just how something new is on the market & how I like Cylinder Vacs, so... Nothing appeals to me about them, but how they are something different to choose from. | ||
| Post# 245414 , Reply# 44 8/12/2013 at 17:09 (3,909 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 245415 , Reply# 45 8/12/2013 at 17:10 (3,909 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I think the Dust Box would probably be an optional extra or come with TOL bagged models & vica versa a bag connector for bagless models. | ||
| Post# 245441 , Reply# 46 8/12/2013 at 21:27 (3,909 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well Hi-Lo, the Hotpoint TOL DUAL CLEAN is such that - it comes with a bag holder and a bagless box.
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| Post# 245447 , Reply# 47 8/12/2013 at 22:10 (3,909 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 245478 , Reply# 50 8/13/2013 at 06:56 (3,908 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Why would it be odd? The lower air watt figure for the lower motor is perfectly correct as is the higher air watt figure for the higher motor...both have been tested at the highest speed.
Air watts and I don't really see eye to eye - not when it comes down to real performance. Effectively though, the biggest downside to the Hotpoint is that it really doesn't offer anything new that hasn't been tried before, except maybe the trolley suitcase handle. That will be its biggest flaw if it doesn't hold up to durability. The nearest rival on pricing that I can think this model sits next to is the Bosch BSGL3 but even if it is usually around £100 mark and the John Lewis version which has the full power as opposed to Bosch's 1200 watts. The problem with the BSGL3 is that the design needs updating with a bit more quality and whilst I'm used to the SEBO's pull-pull auto cord rewind, the one on the Bosch is weaker. The Bosch does however have a long cord. 
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| Post# 245480 , Reply# 51 8/13/2013 at 07:34 (3,908 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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I don't see what's striking about them apart from the lurid colours they look a little boxy to me? From what I can gather the bagless is only a single cyclone and the tubes and floor head are push fit something I really don't like on vacuums. The trolley case is different but if your holding the hose and tubes in one had and dragging the machine behind you with the other I think it would be a pain, machines which have a curved handle on top so you can carry everything with one hand is far better to me.
But each to their own I hope they perform well for those that buy them. | ||
| Post# 245482 , Reply# 53 8/13/2013 at 07:52 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I meant by Air Watts how for a motor that's 600w more only has 125 Air Watts more. | ||
| Post# 245483 , Reply# 54 8/13/2013 at 08:03 (3,908 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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The trolley case is different
I think the trolley is more for moving the cleaner when it's not on. Of course, the cleaner will drag along behind you by it's hose and main wheels in normal use, but when storing the cleaner, instead of lifting it, the use can wheel it along like a suitcase. I think this would be a great feature for an elderly person or someone with disabilities who cannot lift the cleaner up.
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| Post# 245484 , Reply# 55 8/13/2013 at 08:08 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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The Handle also just retracts down out of sight so the user could also carry it like a regular cylinder. | ||
| Post# 245489 , Reply# 56 8/13/2013 at 08:49 (3,908 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 245493 , Reply# 57 8/13/2013 at 09:30 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Well it's everyone's decision to their own :) | ||
| Post# 245498 , Reply# 58 8/13/2013 at 10:31 (3,908 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 245501 , Reply# 59 8/13/2013 at 10:52 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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So you are interested! | ||
| Post# 245514 , Reply# 61 8/13/2013 at 13:12 (3,908 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 245516 , Reply# 62 8/13/2013 at 13:23 (3,908 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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So you are interested! | ||
| Post# 245520 , Reply# 63 8/13/2013 at 13:48 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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So do you buy the 'Top End' brands then? | ||
| Post# 245528 , Reply# 64 8/13/2013 at 14:27 (3,908 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 245545 , Reply# 65 8/13/2013 at 15:43 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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You mean like the Silent Energy? | ||
| Post# 245550 , Reply# 66 8/13/2013 at 16:05 (3,908 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 245552 , Reply# 67 8/13/2013 at 16:13 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Isn't the Freemotion prone to damage easily? I did see you can purchase a hose for it off HooverSpares.co.uk for about £17. Would you recommend it to me as they are £79.99 on Hoover.co.uk | ||
| Post# 245553 , Reply# 68 8/13/2013 at 16:25 (3,908 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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For a collection yes I'd personally recommend it, if you're going to actually use it then no deffo not! The finish will scratch and the hose will split and that hose you saw on Hoovers spares site is the basic hose and if you get the grey Freemotion you would need the remote control hose and I don't know how much that would cost I would guess a lot more? Mines boxed away nice and safe only used it once to test it and once to make a YouTube vid.
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| Post# 245554 , Reply# 69 8/13/2013 at 16:28 (3,908 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Yes just saw the FM hose at £47! Perhaps not then. | ||
| Post# 245613 , Reply# 70 8/14/2013 at 06:24 (3,907 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Here's a Video for the Hotpoint Vac: CLICK HERE TO GO TO hi-loswitch98's LINK | ||
| Post# 245616 , Reply# 71 8/14/2013 at 06:44 (3,907 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Interesting video, though its a mix of the introductory one on the first link. As a musician though I do have to say, the music they've used on Hotpoint's video smacks of Hoover's video from the 1980s when the Turbopower uprights were released. Naughty Hotpoint!
I'm getting disappointed now as the stock photos on here show a Wessel Werk derived floor head compared to the Electrolux like cheap grey floor head featured in the video. However right at the end of the video there appears to be a bagless stick vac - I really hope that isn't Hotpoint's "new upright vacuum cleaner," but it really wouldn't surprise me if it was! If Hotpoint have a stick upright vac, I really hope it is mains powered AND it has a long amount of cord - there isn't anything like that on the UK market that has 10 metres of cord. Its a reason to why I keep my Miele stick vacuum - but its a heavy vintage thing. | ||
| Post# 245622 , Reply# 72 8/14/2013 at 07:29 (3,907 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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TBH It porbably is, wouldn'y be surprised & they'll probably charge a fortune for it! The BOL Cylinder Vac is quite cheap at £74.99 though & isn't Made In China - so theres a plus! | ||
| Post# 253279 , Reply# 73 10/19/2013 at 01:35 (3,841 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well I couldn't wait any longer for Hotpoint to get their finger out since their lowest 1600 watts bagged cylinder vacuum still hasn't been imported over. So I have just bought a new Eco friendly cylinder vacuum cleaner to replace the love/loathe Miele S6 Ecoline and I love my new machine. All will be revealed soon!
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| Post# 253334 , Reply# 74 10/20/2013 at 05:01 (3,840 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 () | ||
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On go-electrical, they first 3 models & Dual-Clean have been out of stock since September. Can't be bothered to wait any longer so bought myself a new vacuum 3 weeks ago...will upload a thread later. | ||
| Post# 256877 , Reply# 75 11/19/2013 at 02:19 (3,810 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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So here is what I got instead... | ||
| Post# 256878 , Reply# 76 11/19/2013 at 02:25 (3,810 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Introducing.. the Miele S8340 Ecoline Solution.
I adore this vacuum. Low 1200 watt power, it isn't a chore to use like the S6 Ecoline before it and Miele have redesigned the pedals on the AirTeq double pedal suction only floor head so that it isn't painful when stepping on the pedal to push to carpets. It does feel a bit lighter than the Miele S5211 Red Pearl I have, but also it is just so much easier to use - no more having to bend down to change the suction setting and getting a face full of motor air when a foot tap on the buttons does the same job. Like SEBO's K1 Komfort, the Miele S8340 comes with three main sized floor heads: Suction only floor head with 2 pedals, the rather excellent Twister Parquet floor head that doesn't do a bad job on pick up and the main size Turbobrush. I'm not a keen use of Miele's main size turbo brush but I find the suction and pick is just as good without it. It doesn't quite beat the SEBO D2 series just yet as the Miele still has 6.5 metres of cord but it is still a great vacuum for the price I paid. This is my early Christmas pressie to me! Long worded review below. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 256900 , Reply# 78 11/19/2013 at 08:28 (3,810 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Nope, you don't need to set the vacuum cleaner on max to get a decent spin of the turbo brush. Miele's sealed suction has a lot to do with the general strong airflow that already flows through the general Miele design. Even with the S6 Ecoline, the third or forth setting before the suggested decal for the turbo brush gives it a decent enough power and spin.
Whilst vacuums that are eco-branded in nature may have capped motors, the first suction setting is slightly higher and noisier than Miele's standard 2200 watt vacuums, so naturally the next setting or third setting gives enough vroom and power for pick up. | ||
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