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Post# 228627   4/16/2013 at 11:54 (1,952 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Hi all, I have this Earlex combi vac wet and dry vacuum with blower function.
I was using it on the back yard today and I was contemplating replacing it.
It is about 10 to 12 years of age, so has seen a lot of use in its life.
Now it is absolutely wonderful, but has its drawbacks, of which I will list later on.
It is a wet and dry, and I am very grateful as I have had to use it a few times, once my dad had a bucket of water in the kitchen and the handle snapped on the bucket! It handled that spillage just fine!
It has a huge capacity, and good suction.
Now for its problems:
The floor brush has a chunk of plastic snapped off it,
The part where the hose connects to the vacuum, is broken and the hose can often fall out if pulled,
This also means that it cannot be pulled around, meaning that it must be picked up when're it's needed to be moved!
I am very much wanting to get a brand new combi-vac, as I do really like it!
Any suggestions, anyone?





Post# 228676 , Reply# 1   4/16/2013 at 16:06 (1,952 days old) by irish-vac-king ()        

i think that parkside is best wet dry vac


Post# 228720 , Reply# 2   4/16/2013 at 21:32 (1,952 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Alex, really depends on what you're prepared to put up with. If its a quality wet an dry tub vacuum alone, a Numatic Charles if you can afford it. However Charles lacks a blower function and I use a garden vac with that function alone anyway to get around as opposed to an outdoor canister.

After much consideration last year when my in-laws borrowed my Numatic Charles and haven't given it back since, I bought a cheap wet and dry tub vacuum from one of my favourite sellers online, known for offering cheap discounted refurbished vacuums as opposed to going to the other side of the country to request my Numatic Charles back!

Bought a Karcher tub vacuum that is wet and dry, which is perfect for the garage and until this very evening when my Bosch dishwasher started telling me of a pump blockage (pesky Yankee Candle wax clogged the filter) used it for the first time for water pick up due to the excess water left in the pod at the bottom of the dishwasher. The Karcher was brilliant as I thought it would be...and the in-laws will be returning Charles soon so we can swap over.

The bonus with the Numatic Charles is that he has a larger dust bag capacity to Henry, extremely robust though he can take Henry's bags too should you require it. You don't get a bowler hat cord winder though on that wet and dry, but I've had Charles now for about 6 years and hasn't let me down.

Either that or an old Vax 3 in 1 machine with the recovery bucket.


Post# 228778 , Reply# 3   4/17/2013 at 11:20 (1,951 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Thanks for your syggestions, I am greatful, I have thought about a karcher vacuum actually!

Post# 228910 , Reply# 4   4/18/2013 at 08:38 (1,950 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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To be honest I find Karcher tubs to be poorly made. Vax is the next step up with Numatic offering the best quality.

Post# 228930 , Reply# 5   4/18/2013 at 11:14 (1,950 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Well I was using it again today(compost spillage outside) and I was thinking at actually how great it is, then I tried to empty it wich was a real pain in the a**e!!!
I looked at the einhell tubs in Argos, and looked at a vax but that just didn't suit my needs:(


Post# 228942 , Reply# 6   4/18/2013 at 13:39 (1,950 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

In argos, there4s a 50 Bush wet and dry vac :) or a George vacuum

Post# 229071 , Reply# 7   4/19/2013 at 11:41 (1,949 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yeah tayyab I looked at the Argos/pro action vac, I'm considering it:)

Post# 229214 , Reply# 8   4/20/2013 at 09:04 (1,948 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Wet and Dry...Bush

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Just looked at the review feedback on site and notice that the cord is 3.7metres! Surely that can't be right on a large wet and dry vacuum - but it seems a few have moaned about the short length. 3.7metres is useless, unless of course you're prepared to put up with that and then faff about with a cord extension.

Auto Express car mag recently gave the 130 or so Nilfisk a best buy though.


Post# 229314 , Reply# 9   4/20/2013 at 17:00 (1,948 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

OMG 375 AW?! More sction than a Miele or Dyson for sure!

Post# 229342 , Reply# 10   4/20/2013 at 21:50 (1,947 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I've a feeling that's not quite right. For one thing the stats list states 14 litre wet and 15 litre dry, yet a close up on the main handle where the brand name shows that there's a 1250 watt motor and suddenly the mention of 20 litres...

Argos have a habit of mixing up stats from time to time.


Post# 229365 , Reply# 11   4/21/2013 at 02:06 (1,947 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Well the combi vac only has about a 3 metre cord!

Post# 229374 , Reply# 12   4/21/2013 at 03:50 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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That's a shopvac, badged as bush. The nilfisk would be the one to go for. Well made and you should be able to get a larger diameter hose for out door cleanup. Karcher is nice especially the larger models but there hoses are useless and clog with ease in outdoor use.


Post# 229420 , Reply# 13   4/21/2013 at 12:53 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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My Karcher A 2504 that I use for some of my yard work and in my workshop.

Post# 229421 , Reply# 14   4/21/2013 at 13:00 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The one thing about Karchers are the filters are incredibly small. The nilfisk one is almost 5 times bigger.
You can use a paper bag in the unit but whats the point, I use it outdoors to suck up leaves and stuff and who wants that fermenting in the bag for 2 weeks.



Post# 229422 , Reply# 15   4/21/2013 at 13:01 (1,947 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

I've seen marchers, they never really caught my eye in any way though!

Post# 229424 , Reply# 16   4/21/2013 at 13:09 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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One of the first things I did was cut off the deflector plate, It was far to restrictive, If you sucked up a twig it would block it and I have a very tree full garden.

The purpose of the deflector plate for those who don't know is to stop objects hitting filter and clogging it or worse damaging it.


Post# 229425 , Reply# 17   4/21/2013 at 13:17 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Cutting it off is not a problem as the filter sits lower than the inlet so the dirt gets deflected by the lower motor casing

Post# 229426 , Reply# 18   4/21/2013 at 13:23 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The biggest problem is this tank fitting, The hose fits over the end not into like on other vacuums this it reduces the internal diameter from 32mm down to 27, It also creates a nice place for clogs to happen.

Post# 229427 , Reply# 19   4/21/2013 at 13:32 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I made a very MacGyver fitting and attached a larger 38mm hose.

I like this model because of the large carry handle making it easier to carry around while in use.


Post# 229442 , Reply# 20   4/21/2013 at 14:23 (1,947 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

I imagine it is easy to carry round, also I saw one of these when I was on holiday and to be perfectly honest, it wasn't very good, it was loud, not great at sucking, and the top exhaust kept spitting out dust!

Post# 229446 , Reply# 21   4/21/2013 at 14:33 (1,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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One thing I have leant is dont judge a vacuum make by someone elses vacuum. Poor maintenance on wet& dry vacuums leads to dust getting into the suction fan throwing it out of balance( loud ) and dust getting shot out the top. Its been very good to me despite me abusing it regularly but to be honest I would choose this now is the Nilfisk Multi 20 and don't get the metal tank, They may look cool and tougher but they dent faster and the machines are louder.

Post# 229497 , Reply# 22   4/22/2013 at 01:58 (1,946 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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One thing I will say is... Do not buy an Argos brand vac! they blow up when they like!!

- Joe


Post# 229499 , Reply# 23   4/22/2013 at 02:01 (1,946 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Lol joe I've owned 2 Argos vacs (bagless upright and bagless cylinder) and threw them both out!

Post# 229502 , Reply# 24   4/22/2013 at 03:47 (1,946 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Why? Did they blow up? Haha

Post# 229529 , Reply# 25   4/22/2013 at 11:07 (1,946 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Nah, one kept breaking(super cheap plastic) and I didn't get on with the other one
But the upright was bloody durable! It would not die! I vacuumed the lawn with it lol and it wouldn't break!!!


Post# 229531 , Reply# 26   4/22/2013 at 11:09 (1,946 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Why did you vacuum the lawn with it? Haha

Post# 229534 , Reply# 27   4/22/2013 at 11:32 (1,946 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

As I had broken an old paper shredder outside and there was debris on the garden lol

Post# 229539 , Reply# 28   4/22/2013 at 13:03 (1,946 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Lol, It'll clean that better than it cleans your carpets though :)

- Joe


Post# 229552 , Reply# 29   4/22/2013 at 14:12 (1,946 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

lol joe come to think of it youre right, great lawn vac but crap carpet cleaner!!

its a shame numatic charles's arent so expensive, id love to get one of those!

George


Post# 229554 , Reply# 30   4/22/2013 at 14:34 (1,946 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Haha, so true!

Post# 229578 , Reply# 31   4/22/2013 at 17:41 (1,946 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Actually I had the bagged upright version of that bagless Argos Value and its pretty good, or I should say Vax, because thats the company responsible behind the Argos Value versions as shown.

Post# 229656 , Reply# 32   4/23/2013 at 11:44 (1,945 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

im not surprised, the argos value range IS basically a Vax power 2 upright!


Post# 229664 , Reply# 33   4/23/2013 at 12:33 (1,945 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yeah but its a pity Vax dont improve the bagged upright themselves and sell it with their own name, include a bigger amount of cord, on board tools etc. Opening up the market for more availability on bags alone could pull in the buyers.

Post# 229804 , Reply# 34   4/24/2013 at 12:03 (1,944 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yeah, it's a Shame vax only have 1 bagged upright:(

Post# 229835 , Reply# 35   4/24/2013 at 14:33 (1,944 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

My profile pic, Proline UVC 18 is the best upright IO used, well second best cus the features are crap lol, Dyson DC14, DC04, DC14 and DC27 + DC33 All the way!
The proline I regret throwing out :( I snmashed it, proper durable tho :D It had mad suction
I had the blue bagged cylinder, hose end didnt clip well, crevice tool holder broke, Filter didnt do well, floor tool broke, and motor kept going out of place!
Second one my Auntie gave me cus she was moving house and got a Henry, I cant get rid of it cus Aunt paid 30 for it and happily gave it to me, Which is really nice, BUT...
Bin keeps falling off
Use the vacuum for approx half an hour, turn it off, turn it on on low power, sounds like it runs on batteries which are gonna die
Floor tool cracked
Hose end cuff keeps getting un screwed, Filters ripped, And now it cut out on me!!! :@ It wont die but annoyed me so much, its in the shed now, gonna stay there for a while
Lesson:- Argos vacuums, cylinder or upright, both have good suction, but the cylinders are cheapo!!! uprights are descent but rubbish design


Post# 229839 , Reply# 36   4/24/2013 at 14:37 (1,944 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

PS, if it wasnt for VAX, we would still have bagged vacuums on the market

Post# 229882 , Reply# 37   4/24/2013 at 19:13 (1,944 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
If it wasn't for Vax we'd stil have bagged uprights

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Well not quite. Id say if it wasn't for Dyson, we'd still have a lot more bagged uprights.

The first "big three" of the European companies to go bagless were Hoover and Electrolux. Vax soon followed with their Dirt Devil U.S Swift uprights and then the flood gates opened shortly before TTI took over.

Then when the supermarkets et al brought out their bagless uprights, they were all Dirt Devil U.S based - including that Tesco horror/Argos Value bagless upright mk1.


Post# 229928 , Reply# 38   4/25/2013 at 03:30 (1,943 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Tayyab, why did you throw the Proline out?

Post# 229935 , Reply# 39   4/25/2013 at 08:07 (1,943 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Joe, I threw the proline out stupidly :(
This is because my Dad was doing a wood project and he was cutting wood too, and KI used for proline foir it, and The filter clips snapped off when I was tapping it out while it was on the handle top too, Then it got annpoying to empty etc :( Its only good for cleaning with- but the features are annoying, like hose storage, tools are crap, Hose is not stretchy, etc


Post# 229945 , Reply# 40   4/25/2013 at 10:50 (1,943 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yeah I agree with tayyab about bad features

Post# 229946 , Reply# 41   4/25/2013 at 11:07 (1,943 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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That's a shame :(

Post# 229947 , Reply# 42   4/25/2013 at 11:44 (1,943 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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New profile pic Joe I have a red Mini the new one :)

Dan


Post# 229958 , Reply# 43   4/25/2013 at 13:06 (1,943 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yeah joe I love mini's!! Especially old minis! My friend had an awesome orange one but it rusted up and noone would buy it when he put it on eBay!
My mum has a 2003 Mini Cooper but I still prefer the older minis!


Post# 229963 , Reply# 44   4/25/2013 at 14:33 (1,943 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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I don't like the 1st gen BMW Mini the 2nd gen is much nicer :) The classic mini is cool but wouldn't want to live with one day in day out!

Post# 230100 , Reply# 45   4/26/2013 at 14:04 (1,942 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks Dan and George! I too love the original Mini! They are brilliant cars! I don't like the newer ones as much as the older ones either, but they are still great cars :)

Joe


Post# 230104 , Reply# 46   4/26/2013 at 14:28 (1,942 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Ps back to Gary's karcher pics, is that a sunbeam mower in the background?

Post# 230199 , Reply# 47   4/27/2013 at 04:08 (1,941 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Mower-strange looking machine-the deck is just like on an older 70's rear discharge Sunbeam mower-but the motor housing?Is this machine cordless and has a battery under the motor housing?Enquiring minds want to know!

Post# 231351 , Reply# 48   5/5/2013 at 18:02 (1,933 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Now here's a bargain - wilkos are selling a "non face" Numatic commercial tub, 1200 watt.



CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK


Post# 231415 , Reply# 49   5/6/2013 at 02:34 (1,932 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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That is a bargain, but unfortunately they are out of stock :(

Post# 231417 , Reply# 50   5/6/2013 at 02:54 (1,932 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yeah that's not bad, just it's not wet and dry!:(

Post# 231459 , Reply# 51   5/6/2013 at 11:27 (1,932 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Thing is though you could just phone up and ask for them to get one in for you. Pity its not wet and dry but then again there's always EBAY for the second hand Charles models.

Post# 234352 , Reply# 52   5/28/2013 at 13:49 (1,910 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Well I was using it last week for the most disgusting job ever... A blocked drain. Outdoors. And I had to wash it all out with the hosepipe outside. Now it's filthy and stinks so it lives in the garage. I have used it twice since to clean the mud and Hay off the back yard and out the car.

Post# 234485 , Reply# 53   5/29/2013 at 16:44 (1,909 days old) by jord123 (new malden surrey london)        

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maybe a numatic charles to add to your numatics as you dont a many numatic

Post# 234526 , Reply# 54   5/30/2013 at 03:53 (1,908 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yeah I would like a Charles just a tad in the expensive side and also I would just keep him in the box and never use it lol I'd be afraid to get it dirty!

Post# 234527 , Reply# 55   5/30/2013 at 05:05 (1,908 days old) by jord123 (new malden surrey london)        

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currys do it on there web site www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-applia...




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