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Kirby multiple unit cleaning system
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Post# 141517   6/30/2011 at 00:10 (4,684 days old) by Kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

Trebor has inquired about thoughts on a multiple unit system in another post to make cleaning easier.

I use two machines for my cleaning tasks. I have my Kirby that I use for all daily, weekly and heavy cleaning. And I also have a Royal hand vac that I use for surface cleaning of furniture and some times stairways.

I'm in a situation that I don't detail clean every time I clean. My detailed cleaning is monthly when I do all edges. vents, furiniture, drapes lampshades etc. I mostly have all wall to wall carpet. And use the hand vac to keep up with the cat hair on the furniture daily and weekly.

Trebors question is what units could kirby make to pair together to accomplish all our cleaning tasks in terms of ease of use, light weight and portablilty.
You you want to see some thing like a back pac or hip vacuum in conjunction with the upright?

At one time Kirby had the Vacuette hand vacuum which I thought was a good idea paired with the upright for those times you didn't need or want to convert the kirby to the hose. As I have paired a Royal hand vac with my kirby for those times.

At times a canister type vacuum is more efficent for some tasks than the Kirby is with the hose.

Share some thoughts please



Post# 141527 , Reply# 1   6/30/2011 at 04:50 (4,684 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I tycally use a canister vacuum instead of the Kirby with a hose-I do use the Kirby with its hose "just for sport" occasionally.I have two backpack vacuums in my collection-Royal and ProTeam-they work good but are AWKWARD for home use-you have to carry the thing on your back-too many "bump into" tradgedies.A wheeled canister on the floor is easier for the home.I have some Royal hand vacs-use them mostly in the car-don't have much ulpolstered furniture.the Kirby converted to a "hand vac" is strictly for matteresses.too big otherwise.For some of my rooms have a vacuum there-two of the rooms at least-they do those rooms.Too sum up use the Kirby on the carpet daily-and the canister weekly.Go over the whole place with the canister-lately-the Rainbow E2B.I use the powernozzle on the Rainbow just for fun.Same wit the Sebo D4 Premium.

Post# 141572 , Reply# 2   6/30/2011 at 15:45 (4,684 days old) by Trebor ()        
Here is what I had in mind..

when I mentioned a back back vacuum, light, small, rounded edges

I think the Metro hand vac would be a good companion to a Kirby or a Royal, too


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Post# 141575 , Reply# 3   6/30/2011 at 16:21 (4,684 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

So, you want a vac that you can sling over your shoulder to do hose tasks, erm, isn't that what the carrying strap is for? :S

Or, instead of demanding such a thing from the manufacturers, how about making your own like this fella did with a Miele and an old backpack:



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Post# 141650 , Reply# 4   7/1/2011 at 08:06 (4,683 days old) by Trebor ()        
The advantsge of...

the back pack is not carrying the weight of an undercarriage or wheels, It is lighter since it will not be pulled around, and, perhaps most importantly, it can be used simultaneously with the upright. What about having the back pack plug into a socket on the upright handle, with a trigger switch/wand clip assembly mounted on the handle? Pull the wand out, the upright shuts off and the back pack starts up, place the wand back in its clip and the back pack shuts off and the upright starts back up.
Of course both machines could function independently when desired, if, for example two people were cleaning simultaneously. But instant back and forth cleaning with the type of machine designed for the purpose.

What do you guys think?


Post# 141651 , Reply# 5   7/1/2011 at 08:10 (4,683 days old) by Trebor ()        
And make...

the back pack out of this stuff!

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Post# 141654 , Reply# 6   7/1/2011 at 08:24 (4,683 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Sounds like an engineering nightmare to me, having to engineer in options that are already there in one unit... :\

I do have ideas, but, I don't think they'd be too practical (and in any case, I'd rather not have some big corp. stealing my ideas incase they're successful!!!)... :P


Post# 141753 , Reply# 7   7/2/2011 at 02:00 (4,682 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

With the backpack-YOU are carrying the weight.For a wheeled canister the FLOOR is holding the weight.The backpacks are great for commercial use-doing very large areas with nothing the backpack can bump into.they can vacuum a large unobstructed floor pretty fast.and some backpacks can be equipped with an electric powernozzle.Least for me-the standard cansister is best.

Post# 141774 , Reply# 8   7/2/2011 at 08:54 (4,682 days old) by henry200 (Saint Paul MN)        

A backpack vac has some distinct advantages in a large commercial setting; movie theatres, banquet halls and churches come to mind.  In a home setting I can see where a professional cleaning service might employ them, but the typical models designed for home use have a couple drawbacks in my opinion.  The bags are small and tend to plug up with dust quickly.  The opportunities for "bumping tragedies" abound.   I much prefer a cannister which follows obediently when tugged but the weight rests on the floor, not me; with a reasonably long hose permitting standing on a stepstool to reach high shelves or cleaning a staircase without needing to lift the machine. 

 

Case in point:  My mother has an Oreck "team."  The upright works well for traffic paths, but the portable cleaner with its short hose was a consumate nuisance.   I retrofitted a long hose on it for her so the machine can rest on the floor and now she can go about her tidying-up without bonking into things or struggling with that stretchy hose which would keep yanking the machine off her shoulder.

 

Whether it's an all-in-one machine, a "quickdraw" upright, a Dialamatic/Pannasonic/Riccar style upright with detachable hose, a cannister, or a "team" of machines,  no single arrangement is going to satisfy everyone.   Personal cleaning habits/routines will determine which arrangement suits that individual.   Viva la difference!


Post# 142033 , Reply# 9   7/5/2011 at 04:23 (4,679 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

for movie theaters-a wheeled vac could be a problem-because of the sloping floors in a theater auditorium-a wheeled machine will roll downhill.the backpack stays with you.

Post# 142037 , Reply# 10   7/5/2011 at 07:29 (4,679 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

From what I know, older Compacts with skids up front were used in theatres and cinemas (originally developed for cleaning passenger aircraft), with front skids there's little chance of the thing rolling away, and it's narrow so therefore can make it's way between the seats, so, developing something that already exists, that's just a waste of time and money in my opinion...

And backpackvacs have another major disadvantage, they put pressure on your spine and shoulders, so could end up leaving you with damage to your joints, you have to remember that not everyone has military strength backs!!!


Post# 143163 , Reply# 11   7/14/2011 at 04:18 (4,670 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Vacs for cleaning aircraft--FAA regulations require non sparking motors for aircraft vacuums-canister and backpacks-they are designed to run off the airplanes 208-120V 400hz 3 phase supply.You can use a brushed motor vac on the plane-but don't let FAA inspectors catch you!a fine will be involved.They are afraid that sparking motors could ignite fuel fumes.--yet we vacuum our cars with brush motor vacuums-go figure.Just quoting what I have seen in FAA regs for aircraft vacuums.Esp for commercial passenger aircraft.


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