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Thread Number: 12599
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| Post# 134782 , Reply# 1 4/30/2011 at 14:02 (4,744 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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new aerus upright you should go with miele , aerus doenst vibrate the carpet idk about sebo . miele is the only true sealed vacuum. if you have allergys and what a upright go with miele | ||
| Post# 134799 , Reply# 3 4/30/2011 at 15:49 (4,744 days old) by sanimatic () | ||
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Can't speak to the Aerus, but I have a Miele S7 and a Sebo Felix, both of which I love. As mentioned above, the Miele has the best filtration I have ever experienced, but the Sebo Felix is not far behind. Chris | ||
| Post# 134801 , Reply# 4 4/30/2011 at 15:59 (4,744 days old) by FilterQueenMan (Park City UT) | ||
I have it I own the Guardian upright and I think it is a great machine. It does a very nice job on plush carpet and the power is substantial. It does come with tools but not it is not on board but is a duplicate of the Guardian Canister hose. The hose has a quick connect and is stout.
I also have the Miele S7 twist and I have to disagree with Mr. Trebor while it locks down when stretching the hose you have to use two hands one to guide the nozzel and the other to keep the hose from being too taunt when using tools. The hose wants to retract back and does so with good bit of zeal. I do not care to use the tools on the S7 for that reason.
Honestly I think Aerus makes a good product and it has a much better warranty also. Aerus offers 10 years as the Miele offers 2 years. I think if you are going to spend that kind of money you need to take them for a test drive. Good luck to you honestly don't think you can go wrong with either as an owner of both I feel they are both superior machines, but everyone's needs are different so find the one that works best for you. | ||
| Post# 134808 , Reply# 7 4/30/2011 at 17:41 (4,744 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
Aerus/Miele
I own both the Aerus lux Guardian and the Miele S7 Salsa. I also own an Aerus Lux 4000 which does have on board tools . I am a Kirby lover hands down but I do find myself using my Aerus Guardian a lot more than the Miele or the Kirby . I feel the Aerus does a great job on my Frize' carpet. It grooms it very well and that carpet looks the best after the Aerus . I don`t recomend anyone getting that carpet because it makes most Vacuums very difficult to push . I feel the Aerus works well on all types of carpets but this realy thick carpet I have is easiest with the Aerus or the Self propelled Sentria or any other kirby with self propel feature.My Miele does a good job but is very heavy and quite bulky . Aerus fits under all of my furniture. I guess they beleive why change a good thing .
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| Post# 134809 , Reply# 8 4/30/2011 at 17:43 (4,744 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
Aerus, Miele, Sebo Ok I have had all 3. They all cleaned well and they all had their good and bad points. I still have the Aerus, but not the other two.
Aerus - I liked the design when I had the Discovery III and like someone said, it hasn't changed much since. First an after filter and then a hepa filter. As fas as a sealed hepa, I am not sure, but the hepa filter has a rubber gasket to seal to the machine. I like mine and it grooms well. You will never find an easier bag change bar none.
Miele - Very top heavy and kind of bulky. It stears around furniture very well and has a huge bag. You do have to fight the hose when being used.
Sebo X Series - Auto height adjustment but, I had some carpet that it would not go low enough to groom really well. You will have to hold on to the handle when using the hose or the machine will tip over. The same would go for the Aerus if you put the attachments on. If you go with Sebo you may want to look at the Felix, you can carry it without the power nozzle like a portable canister.
All of the above are well made so it's just what you like and don't like. You will end up with a good vacuum either way you go.
You might want to go to the Sebo website. They have very short instructional videos, for most of their products.
Bud Mattingly | ||
Post# 134811 , Reply# 9 4/30/2011 at 18:02 (4,744 days old) by fanonthefloor  (Augusta,Georgia) |
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Josh just because you don't like a certain vacuum brand doesnt mean other people might not want it. Im just saying that before Fred has to chime in. | ||
| Post# 134812 , Reply# 10 4/30/2011 at 18:08 (4,744 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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new aerus upright i was just giving my input . not trying to start stuff i have the right to give my opionon | ||
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Post# 134818 , Reply# 11 4/30/2011 at 18:42 (4,744 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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I've had an older Electrolux upright (1993) and would not recommend in terms of cleaning performance. It had very little suction and I don't not like the power-nozzle, so I sold it. If you must have one you can get one of eBay for MUCH less than $1000. It's basically a canister vacuum in an upright position that you push and is not worth $1000. A Miele would be a much better choice.
You said you have a cleaning service. Do you mean someone cleans your house or you work for one? Ether way you could get a Hoover commercial vacuum that would clean better for alot less than the cheapest Miele. | ||
| Post# 134831 , Reply# 14 4/30/2011 at 20:48 (4,744 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
Warranty | ||
| Post# 134835 , Reply# 15 4/30/2011 at 21:11 (4,744 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 134868 , Reply# 18 5/1/2011 at 08:02 (4,743 days old) by FilterQueenMan (Park City UT) | ||
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Miele has a Two-year warranty
at least that is what is listed on the web page. The dealer may be offering an additional warranty. I buy the bags online at http://www.govacuum.com and have got great pricing and great service. My order generally arrives in 3 days as long as the order is in by 4:00 EST. | ||
| Post# 134870 , Reply# 19 5/1/2011 at 08:04 (4,743 days old) by FilterQueenMan (Park City UT) | ||
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One other thing | ||
| Post# 134879 , Reply# 20 5/1/2011 at 08:56 (4,743 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana) | ||
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personally... I like the Sebo Felix.Excellent filteration,deep cleans,quiet,a very versital upright. | ||
| Post# 134882 , Reply# 21 5/1/2011 at 09:07 (4,743 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Aerus
My entire family has owned Electrolux/Aerus vacuums upright & canisters since the 40`s and have never had reliability problems. As far as power they have very good power. My mother still uses her Discovery II Advantage every day since 1986 or so . I never even changed the belt as it is a geared belt. I would buy one from someone on eBay as you can get them at a great price. Just make sure the person has close to 100% feedback.
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Post# 134909 , Reply# 25 5/1/2011 at 14:14 (4,743 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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What Vernon said
I always liked the Epic 3500. It's very versatile and the attachments are TOL Lux hose and attachments. No collapsible hose. The machine is tippy but so are a lot of uprights. The hose attaches to the top, so it reaches higher to clean overhead. The shortfalling of the Epic was an anemic sunroom motor. I think it was 200 air watts and the lux 4000 had 250. The new one has just under 400, so that issue is rectified. I mat buy one now that my interest is sparked.
You'd be in great shape with any of the vacuums you're considering. I have the Miele and the Sebo X5. They're both wonderful. If u buy the Sebo, order the HEPA pack. It has HEPA bags and filter andis better than the standard pack. | ||
| Post# 134927 , Reply# 26 5/1/2011 at 17:07 (4,743 days old) by luxman107 (USA ) | ||
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I doubt there are many machines out there that will top the aerus/electrolux's, Reliable, great service, great machines and made in the USA. | ||
| Post# 135014 , Reply# 28 5/2/2011 at 09:24 (4,742 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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Post# 135046 , Reply# 29 5/2/2011 at 16:56 (4,742 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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Couldn't take it anymore
The curiosity surrounding all this was too much for me. I bought one today. I'll use it later in my bedroom and let you know what I think. I know it's a really great machine. It has a LOT more suction than the Epics I used to have, so that fixes the Lux's only real weakness. More to come. Bernie the Electrolux dealer just dropped it off, and it hasn't left the spot where he set it. Here's its first photo op. :)
BTW, this was my first opportunity to show Bernie my collection. I wish I had planned it earlier so John could have been here for it, but I needed to accommodate Bernie's schedule since it's a long drive for him. He enjoyed himself and used a lot of my machines. 
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| Post# 135054 , Reply# 30 5/2/2011 at 17:36 (4,742 days old) by cleaningbuff (Quincy, IL) | ||
looking for a lux dealer
Sleepdoc::
Could you e-mail me, and give me Bernie the lux representatives contact info. I have tried to locate one each time we have been in St. Louis but no luck. I have a Lux 4000 with the onboard tools but it is top heavy, the suction is great though. I also have a discovery,,, first model, suction is kinda weak on it. I clean houses and I love these machines as they are very easy to maneuver and clean under beds and such. I live in Quincy IL and our local office closed some time ago. Thanks for your help. Robert Clow | ||
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Post# 135058 , Reply# 31 5/2/2011 at 18:17 (4,742 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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Bernie | ||
| Post# 135071 , Reply# 32 5/2/2011 at 19:00 (4,742 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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OMG Sleep Doc lol
Wow you seem to be like me , everytime I see a Vacuum I like I must purchase it or I get very excited until I get what I want . You will love that machine it is really an excellent upright and I find myself pulling that one out to use the most out of all of my 200+ Vacuum cleaners .Enjoy using it as I am sure you will be quite pleased with it .
Danny | ||
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Post# 135098 , Reply# 34 5/2/2011 at 21:23 (4,742 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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It feels just like the older ones.
The new Guardian is just like using a Discovery or Epic except it pulls almost 400 air watts instead of 200. It's no louder. The new brush roll (that's been around a few years now) is great. It's a very good machine. I'm glad they kept this same design and fixed the suction deficit. The new Luxes are bright white, pretty machine.
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Post# 135099 , Reply# 35 5/2/2011 at 21:30 (4,742 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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GM1982
Original poster: sorry to threadjack in a way.
If you're looking at the Felix vs the X4 or X5, then the comparable Miele is the S168 Universal Upright with a power nozzle vs the S7 full size uprights. Check those out if you're thinking about a smaller vacuum. The only machine that you've brought up that I don't have yet is the Felix. I've used one just once, and it was very good, just like I'd expect any Sebo to be. The Miele Universal is terrific, but the bags are small. | ||
| Post# 135108 , Reply# 36 5/3/2011 at 01:59 (4,742 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York) | ||
I haven't used the newest Guardian upright, but the last Electrolux upright I owned was a brand new Aerus Lux 3000. This machine had the new and much improved brush roll, which can be used in any Lux upright machine, and it also had a more powerful motor. Ive had the Discovery II, an Epic 3500, and the last was the 3000. While the Discovery upright design has been around for probably 25 years, they still have yet to be beat. The ability to use the sidekick is wonderful, and while they can tip over they dont seem to tip as easily as other machines. One of the nicest features of using tools with this machine is that you dont have to fight some awful stretch hose that is constantly pulling backwards, and to top it off it has the traditional Electrolux pistol grip handle that has been around for the past 60+ years. Ive seem the ProLux machines used in a commercial setting as the company I worked for had them in every store. I can tell you that they can stand up to a lot of abuse and still keep going. While the Lux may not have the same suction power as the Miele, it has stood the true test of time. These machines hold up well and give years of dependable service. Electrolux/Aerus is not exactly big on changing thier model line around often, but when it comes to their upright, it just doesnt make sense to redesign something that already has worked so well, just like how Kirby doesnt put out a completely new machine every 5 years. If its not broken, dont fix it.
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Post# 135135 , Reply# 37 5/3/2011 at 13:07 (4,741 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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Electrolux Aerus upright design
I've been saying for a long time that I recommended Electrolux Epic uprights to people looking for a versatile vacuum. Again, it needed more suction, but eve as it was, it was a very good cleaner. As the bag filled, the power dropped noticeably, but even then it cleaned well. That problem is fixed now.
The reason I like the Electrolux upright design is that it's great with tools. Tools-on-board machines are undermined in the usefulness by the collapsible hoses, as Bimmer740 pointed out. They're terrible except for putting the machine at the bottom of a staircase and cleaning as far up the stairs as the hose will reach. Will the Aerus Lux, you've always gotten a full set of TOL hose and attachments, including the Sidekick, so you can use the upright as a canister on hard floors just by putting the matching floor attachment on the wands (full length wands) and vauuming normally. (I've never been much for just turning off brush rolls on power nozzles or uprights and cleaning just with air and no brush bristles touching the floor.) Also, the Lux machines were in the filtration business before others even considered high filtration as an important performance metric. The cheaper Lux bags filtered to one micron. So did the after filters. The IOTA bags were better than that when they made them (and I'm still upset they stopped), but the newest bags supposedly filter as well as the IOTA bags did. The base machines have micron after filters, and the Guardians have sealed HEPA filters. I worry some that the Aerus Lux company might not make it, but, if they don't, it won't be because their upright isn't a fantastic cleaner. My single piece of advice for Lux is to lengthen the plastic wands and improve on the quality of the plastic wands and power nozzle necks on the canisters. The upright uses the classic wands and tools, so it's not an issue with this machine. I recommend the Guardian upright. It's a solid, effective iteration of a very effective design with effective improvements over its predecessors. | ||
| Post# 135163 , Reply# 38 5/3/2011 at 17:32 (4,741 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York) | ||
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@GM1982
I must have read over your post about having a cleaning service use your machine. We have had several different housekeepers over the past 15+ years and they have all preferred to use an Electrolux. I think because they are pretty much "idiot proof". The power nozzle shuts off if it gets jammed, the belt never needs to be changed nor will it break or burn up. If somehow the suction motor should over heat, it will also shut off. Although I dont know if the new uprights shut off when the bag is full like the canister machines, they do have a very visable bag indicator light. When I traded my Electrolux tanks in for a Miele Red Velvet and BlueMoon years ago, I was extremely happy with my purchase, my housekeeper however was less than thrilled to say the least. Like I said above, the Lux can stand up to abuse and I know that some of our housekeepers havent exactly been very gentle with the vacuum they use. Also, some of the European machines just have too many electronic components and various choices in cleaning levels that cleaning person who comes in to clean and move on to the next house just cant be bothered with. Patrick, I cant wait to hear how you like the your new Guardian upright, congratulations on another beautiful machine! | ||
| Post# 135168 , Reply# 39 5/3/2011 at 18:10 (4,741 days old) by GM1982 () | ||
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Very good point about the housekeepers....that's one thing I question is whether these fancier Miele and Sebo models are simple to operate. The Aerus is idiot proof, one button and go. | ||
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Post# 135183 , Reply# 40 5/3/2011 at 19:30 (4,741 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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Ease of use
The Miele, Sebo, and Lux in all their varieties are easy to use. The Sebo might be the easiest, really. Pull out the hose grip and a medium-length wand comes with it, use the hose for whatever quick thing you need, then put it right back in and you're done. The new Miele upright is the same, but the hose doesn't come out quite as easily, nor does it just slide into place on the machine as easily as the Sebo. But, all of your finalists are user-friendly. You can't lose on any of them. During all your searching, did you ever look at a tandem air Simplicity or Riccar Synergy and Synchrony for Simplicity, Radiance and Brilliance for Riccar, all of which have different trim levels with their own model number designation)? I think they round out what I consider the contemporary TOL uprights, Kirby notwithstanding.
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Post# 135307 , Reply# 44 5/4/2011 at 17:16 (4,740 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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Windsor | ||
| Post# 135355 , Reply# 47 5/5/2011 at 00:26 (4,740 days old) by cleaningbuff (Quincy, IL) | ||
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lux 4000 | ||
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Post# 135384 , Reply# 49 5/5/2011 at 10:27 (4,739 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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Great!
My favorite Miele canister these days is called Earth. You'll have to pick a powerhead out of three current electric models and one turbine model based on your carpet/rug thickness.
Or the Lux comes with everything standard except a floor tool to hook up to the wands. You'd have to buy that extra. You'll love either of those machines, and they'll take great care of your carpets, furniture, and lungs for a LONG time. Please let us know which machine you choose, maybe even put up photos. This has been a really fun thread for me. patrick | ||
| Post# 135474 , Reply# 50 5/5/2011 at 22:47 (4,739 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Aerus/Miele
Either of those two are excellent choices. If you do get an Aerus upright and need the bare floor tool just ask the sales person to throw it in with the purchase. I always ask for extra`s in fact when I purchased my Aerus Lux Guardian upright I asked my sales lady to throw in a bare floor tool , box of bags plus an Aerus Fresh ERA light weight upright and bags for both machines . She did and I also purchased the Aerus Guardian canister the last of the in my opinion great canisters Aerus built . She again threw in a Fresh ERA upright and a box of bags and an extra Hepa filter plus a non hepa filter. I feel it always pays to ask for something extra as I would always throw in extra`s when I owned my vacuum shop . Good luck on your decision.
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Post# 135514 , Reply# 52 5/6/2011 at 12:21 (4,738 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO) |
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Wonderful! | ||
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