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Post# 108302   9/14/2010 at 00:13 (4,944 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Hey guys, I found an Electrolux that I've been wanting for only 25 dollars. Should I go for it? I was hoping to get the blue model, I think it's a little newer (Gaurdian?), but for this price, I can hardly pass it up if it's still available... the only Lux I have now is the Diamond Jubilee, and I never use it. I used to have their first upright, but it was so bulky and cumbersome, I threw it away.

What model is this, and how old is it if you know? Anything I should know about it? What bags does it take?

Thanks!


Post# 108304 , Reply# 1   9/14/2010 at 00:48 (4,944 days old) by joe22 ()        

it is a renaissance, the first of the new design tanks. it has a longer cord, larger bag, soft touch controls on the hose, 3 speeds, top of the line lux and a totally new design for them

25 bucks its a steal


Post# 108308 , Reply# 2   9/14/2010 at 03:26 (4,944 days old) by electrolux-dude (Canyon, TX)        

Yes, it is indeed a Rennaisance, Snatch it immediately! As for bags HESCO should have them. It takes Style "R" bags. They are different than the regular style "C" bags found on the older style canisters.


Post# 108312 , Reply# 3   9/14/2010 at 07:00 (4,943 days old) by luxg ()        

Excellent vacuum but I just never got into those big wands. Also I have heard that the hose can be a big problem with all of the controls. They are pretty expensive to replace when needed. When I was visiting a friend in Tucson this past year we found one outside on trash day. Of course we brought it home. It didn't work but Roger is very clever and took the hose apart and was able to fix the electronic control that was causing the problem. For $25 it is a good deal. I would get it just for the fun of it.

Terry


Post# 108313 , Reply# 4   9/14/2010 at 07:49 (4,943 days old) by chuffle (Rural Pennsylvania)        
As Terry said...

The wands are bulky, and the controls on the grip are problematic. My controls failed (I bought the machine for $7.95 at a thrift shop), and I always had to disconnect the hose to switch the machine off.

That being said, I liked the machine, and wish that I had kept it.

Joe


Post# 108314 , Reply# 5   9/14/2010 at 08:10 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
thanks

Thanks guys.... I e-mailed the lady last night... then called this morning right after she responded to my e-mail. She still has the machine, and I'm going to go get it at 5 PM tonight. It's a 45 minute drive for me, but SO worth it.... and I'm kinda glad she's not available until later, it will give me a chance to wake up and do a few things first... She said her dad gave it to her and it was too big and bulky for her so he gave her a new one and she was just planning to throw this one away.... can you imagine? She said there are no problems with it, and it comes with a few attachments.... maybe I can stop by the Electrolux dealer on the way and pick up some bags in advance so it will be ready to go.

Thanks again, I'm excited :o) Been a while since I got a new machine :o)


Post# 108330 , Reply# 6   9/14/2010 at 11:56 (4,943 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Tell me about this Electrolux please;

Here is what I know:
It is a true Electrolux design. Compared to my 2100 it is very deluxe with a different and easier to use cord rewind, longer electric cord,deluxe tools that store on board and it came with the flip over rug/floor tool and extra wheels under the belly for added ease in guidance.
It was my understanding that the Rennaisance used a computer chip in the controls and WAS more prone to break. Can you just imagine most people droping the hose etc.
My model is the Epic 8000 which I understand went back to simpler switch controls. Mine does have 3 speeds and brush off/on and machine off/on on the handle.
What I always found interesting about the machine was that it was very modern looking BUT it was designed with the XXX in mind. Look at the rounded front cover,the trim and nameplate on the side and the Flat rear end. Even the grey color after the XXX.My Epic 8000 has the name in bright RED like the old XXX.
I have been told that the later ones were noisy but mine is very quiet and powerful. In some ways it was like the old 60 in that it was big and heavy,but a true Electrolux look and feel in a modern style.
I hope you enjoy yours.


Post# 108331 , Reply# 7   9/14/2010 at 12:10 (4,943 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Tell me about this Electrolux please

Bobby,
I forgot to tell you in my previous post to ALWAYS turn the machine off before removing the hose handle,hose from machine or separating the wands. This will help prevent electrical problems with the connections. This info was from an Electrolux salesman who had been in the Electrolux business for many years and gave me my home demonstration when I got my Epic 8000. I have had no problems with my machine in 12 years. At the time of purchase I bought an extra hose just in case there were problems with the hose handle. Of course I don't drop mine or use it outdoors or have kids using the machine.
I always have to remember that vac collectors are not normal users and take care of their equipment.


Post# 108365 , Reply# 8   9/14/2010 at 21:59 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

The adoption is complete. I got the machine! I must have really wanted it because I drove 45 minutes each way and had to wait 30 minutes (the lady was running late).... I usually don't even leave the apartment on my day off! It only came with an upholstery nozzle, so I still need to get a bare floor tool, crevice tool, dusting brush, and sidekick. I really want the sidekick.... all my other small nozzles with spinning brushes are turbo nozzles driven by suction, and I want an electrically powered one. Maybe I will get one when I finally find a Kenmore Progressive canister. I will check Ebay, but I don't know if they will have any that match. I got bags and filters for it at the Lux dealer (the new Luxes are so ugly!)... 50 dollars for 24 bags and 2 filters! That's crazy. I asked about belts and they said 13 dollars. I said screw that! Those belts almost never go bad, and are much cheaper on Ebay. No major problems to speak of... There is a cut in the cord, about 6 inches long, but none of the wires are missing their insulation. The bulb in the power nozzle was burned out, but I found one at Lowes (not in the vacuum section, in the bulb section, listed as an appliance bulb) of all places. I really like the headlight lens on this thing. The whole vacuum (body and power nozzle) was practically covered in white paint splotches, so I just spent an hour with a microfiber cloth, some alcohol, and a magic clean eraser making it look spiffy again. I also shined it up with armorall, and while not perfect, it looks 100 times better than it did when I brought it through the door. The brushroll was covered in long hair, heavy string, what looked like dental floss or fishing line, and thread. I cut it all off, and inspected the belt to make sure it was fine.... it was, no stripped teeth or anything. The experience wasn't without incident, however. When I took the power nozzle apart to replace the bulb, I couldn't get the silly reset button back in right. I spent about an hour trying to do that, and finally got it about 2 seconds before I was going to march the whole ensemble out the the dumpster and hurl it in. It was frustrating! Then, I got to do a little more vacuuming than I'd planned to. When I was bringing the cleaner in from the kitchen to the living room, I accidentally knocked over the bucket of water I was using to clean it with.... it went all over the carpet, even into the pantry... so I had to break out the Hoover Steam Vac and call him to duty. I had to take out my 2 ice cream makers and 2 food dehydrators from the pantry floor to get all the water up.... it was a mess! Oh yeah, before that, when I was posing the machine for the "after" picture, the hose began to fall... remembering your warnings about how delicate and expensive those electronic hoses are, I quick as a flash, dropped the digital camera on the hard tile floor and DOVE to save the hand grip/hose from a certain violent death... the camera missed the bucket of water by inches. I did save the hose though! The camera still worked, but I figured it was worth the risk... it's a 99 dollar camera, while a replacement hose is significantly more.

First impressions. I really like it! It sounds great and has a ton of power. So much quieter than my Diamond Jubilee. The electronic finger tip controls are in a good place, easy to reach, but not easy to accidentally activate (wish I could say the same for my LG made Kenmore Iridium). At first I didn't get the wheels on the cleaner base.... swivel in the front and back and fixed on the sides... but they really do help when spinning the cleaner around. I can't for the life of me understand why they didn't just do what Miele did and leave the two middle wheels off and just have swivel casters on the outside. The new bags aren't 4 ply anymore like my old yellow Germgrabber C bags are for the Diamond Jubilee, and they feel inferior. The machine and power nozzle are both quieter and more powerful than the DJ. Plus, the power nozzle has fixed wheels instead of "spring loaded" ones like the DJ. I think I'm really going to enjoy this machine. Here are some before and after pictures.... Oh yeah, the machine is a lot darker than the Craig's List picture indicated. Very utilitarian in gray and I would have preferred the more whimsical and playful blue and white Guardian, but as I said, for this price, I'll take it.

Thank you for all your help and advice!


Post# 108367 , Reply# 9   9/14/2010 at 22:01 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
power nozzle

what a mess... oh yes, and the previous owner had used carpet fresh, so there was powder and a nasty smell everywhere.... at least it didn't smell like animals or smoke!

Post# 108368 , Reply# 10   9/14/2010 at 22:02 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
top shot of power nozzle

before

Post# 108369 , Reply# 11   9/14/2010 at 22:04 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
after picture

After I cleaned the power nozzle and installed the bulb... look at all that mess that was in there!

Post# 108370 , Reply# 12   9/14/2010 at 22:06 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
another before`

look at all the paint! I wonder if I can get a new Reniassance emblem?

Post# 108371 , Reply# 13   9/14/2010 at 22:09 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
after

after mini-spa treatment... gee it looks like I need to clean the bottom of my stove :o)

There were still a few stubborn paint splotches on the bumper, but I think my friend David is going to help me with that :o)


Post# 108372 , Reply# 14   9/14/2010 at 22:11 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
power nozzle

after

Post# 108373 , Reply# 15   9/14/2010 at 22:14 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
full body shot

Sorry for so many pictures, my new guy is vain! Only one more after this, I promise :o)

Post# 108374 , Reply# 16   9/14/2010 at 22:16 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
couple shot

Here is the new adoptee with his long lost cousin, whom I will probably never use again! Thanks again everyone.

Post# 108378 , Reply# 17   9/14/2010 at 23:23 (4,943 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Hey guys.... I'm having trouble finding attachments that will work with my vacuum, let alone match, and fit in the on board holders... if you notice any on Ebay that would work with my cleaner, would you please point them out to me.... I think part of it is I don't know what the originals are supposed to look like. Thanks

Post# 108380 , Reply# 18   9/15/2010 at 01:28 (4,943 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)        
Renaissance Tools

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Bobby, The Renaissance models through the Guardian (all machines that take type "R" bags) use the same tools, although the colors may vary. There are several listings for newer white model Guardians and you should be able to see what the tools look like so that you can match them properly. The dusting brush is not a combination style like every other Lux had, and the crevice tool is very small but is actually extendable. I had the same Renaissance and I like it but I really would love to find either an Epic 8000 or the original dark gray with light gray trim Renaissance. I had the entire mono-tone light gray Lux line up for a while and the Renny certainly felt like it was more solidly constructed (as it should for the outrageous price tag). Good luck with your new find and happy vacuuming! BTW that Diamond Jubilee will give you years of dependable service, it may not be a top notch deep cleaner, but they certainly do stand the test of time and abuse.

Post# 108383 , Reply# 19   9/15/2010 at 02:02 (4,943 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        

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Looks like new after you were done Bobby! Aren't you glad you got it ;) You can never have to many pics, a YT video wouldn't hurt either =~)

Post# 108388 , Reply# 20   9/15/2010 at 08:37 (4,942 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Thanks guys.... Brimmer, I found the dusting brush, bare floor tool, and side kick, but that crevice tool doesn't seem to be anywhere. I want to get all of them at once! Thanks for the advice, I did see the Gaurdian tools so I know what they should look like now. I guess any sidekick that says "Sidekick 2" should work, right?

Kenny (I still have stuff to send you, good heavens I've been lazy, but I haven't forgotten!) yes, I am VERY glad I got it. This was a better deal than my 60 dollar Sentria and 20 dollar Miele Plus.... I love getting high end vacs for almost nothing! All the junk I've had to weed though to get these, it's nice to get lucky every now and then. I check Craig's List every day! Usually it's just Bissell Powerforces and Kirby G4s! I do feel a Youtube video coming on... maybe I should compare to the Diamond Jubilee in a little cleaning test. I don't use canisters very often, but I think this is going to be my daily driver for along time... the power and quality feel are too hard to put down. I turn 27 on Friday so this is going to count as my birthday present to myself..... not quite as expensive as the 500 dollar sewing machine and Hoover Steam Vac I got for myself last year, but I think I'll enjoy it just as much :o) Since I saved so much on the machine itself, I don't mind splurging on the attachments, if I can find them.


Post# 108391 , Reply# 21   9/15/2010 at 09:41 (4,942 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

OK I just got attachments.... I got the crevice tool right from Aerus because it was only 5.95. The rest I got in the Ebay auction that I'm providing a link to.... these should fit, right?

I kind of wanted the dedicated bare floor tool rather than the flip tool, but when I saw the difference in price, and that this set included the sidekick, I had to get it. Of course I'll have 2 upholstery nozzles now! When this machine was new, did it come with the flip tool, or the dedicated bare floor tool? What did this machine go for when it was new?

Thanks :o)


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Post# 108396 , Reply# 22   9/15/2010 at 11:02 (4,942 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Yes those tools in the Ebay auction will fit.

Gary


Post# 108399 , Reply# 23   9/15/2010 at 11:44 (4,942 days old) by joe22 ()        

it came with a floor tool, the flip tool in dark gray was an option and rare. original price i dont know, prob in the 1200 range or so but this is an educated guess

the after filter is under the tool rack, electrostatic



Post# 108400 , Reply# 24   9/15/2010 at 11:51 (4,942 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Tell me about this Electrolux please

My Epic 8000 came with the dedicated floor tool but Electrolux sent me in the mail the flip-over rug/floor tool with in the first 3-4 months on ownership.
The paper work said they were now including the flip over rug/flor tool with their top of the line sweeper.
Not sure what yours cost new but my Epic 8000 was over $1200.00 new from the Electrolux man. I found a flyer with both the polisher and the Epic 8000 and the posted price was $1739.00 for BOTH units.


Post# 108419 , Reply# 25   9/15/2010 at 18:53 (4,942 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        
Looks great, thanks for posting

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Your Electrolux looks wonderful. I have wanted a newer model for awhile now something a little more powerful than the 1205. I have checked eBay a lot lately. You got such a great deal.

Glad to hear that is quiet. Love my Hoovers for carpet, but I am "true blue" Electrolux.

Kenny L


Post# 108433 , Reply# 26   9/15/2010 at 21:41 (4,942 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Thanks guys :o) I'm excited to get the attachments.... I may not use my other machines for a long time as I am falling head over heals for this thing. I used it tonight after work, and I was doing the throw rugs in the bathroom... turned it on low, and it did a fine job until I got a little too close to the edge.... then it sucked the rug up in the power nozzle and the overload kicked in instantly. Before I could event think about turning the machine off! I hit the button and was back in business. The only thing I don't like is that it's hard to turn in tight areas because of the stationary wheels on the side and long body... but still LOVE it! Everything about the way this machine feels and looks screams quality and power. Even straight suction on a bare floor with the power nozzle is great... it gets right up to the edges and has a low profile for getting under toe kicks.... I know know how many uprights I've scratched due to their high profile and hitting toe kick in the kitchen and bathroom (s/p Windtunnel, Dyson DC 14, and Eureka Smart Vac all come to mind).

Kloveland, the Guardians and Reniasances on Ebay are a little crazy as far as price goes, aren't they? That's funny that you are "true blue" with Electroluxes... I've never been loyal to just one brand, and can't say I have a favorite.... I adore almost all vacuums (except non-vintage dirt devils, Hoover Elites and cheap/modern Bissells).... Have you made any more Youtube videos since your first one? I thought you did a good job with that one, and I meant to check back and see if you did any more, but I forgot your name on there.


Post# 108437 , Reply# 27   9/16/2010 at 00:36 (4,942 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)        

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Bobby the attachments you bought were quite a steal, that combination floor tool alone retails for around $75 and Im sure the SideKick II is close to that also. I have a rug rat for my central vac but I loved the sidekick that I had with the Electrolux. I cant really tell what condition your brush roll is in from the picture but the new brush roll has an extra turn of bristles and really improves how well the machine cleans. I put on in my Epic 6000 along with a belt and light bulb and I think my bill was around $60. I love my 6000 and I liked my 6500 but the Renny definately has a more sturdy feel to it and a much more elegant look.

Electrolux has always been very popular where I live while vacs like Rainbow or Tristar are few and far between. Anyone who valued a clean home and dependability and had the $$ to spend had an Electrolux. We had a housekeeper for over 15 years and of course I would ask her about what kind of vacuums her other clients had. She cleaned a variety of homes, some of an average size and some multi-million dollar large homes. She always said that almost all of them had an Electrolux unless they had central vacuum, and only one of them had a Kirby. My housekeeper was amazing and she didnt beat the crap out of the vacuums she was allowed to use (either she was afraid I would scream at her or because my family had such a great relationship with her) but some are very rough on vacs. While Electrolux is a high end machine, I dont feel that they can out clean something like a Miele, but they can and often do take a beating and keep on going. They really do stand up to the abuse considering that they are plastic bodied machines. Good luck with your Renaissance and Im glad to hear you like it, that model was a huge turning point in modern Electrolux design and introduced many new features to the brand.


Post# 108439 , Reply# 28   9/16/2010 at 00:40 (4,942 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)        
Brushroll

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I just checked on totalvac.com and they have the genuine new style brush roll for under $11, I think mine was about 50. It says that they purchased a large quanity of them at very discounted price. I think im going to buy one for my Diamond Jubilee and maybe and extra one incase I purchase another machine. Check out the link

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Post# 108441 , Reply# 29   9/16/2010 at 06:16 (4,941 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Thats ok Bobby

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I know the feeling lol. I havn't quite got my house back together yet so im not in a rush. Great deal on the attchments. Its very rare that you can get a good deal on a lux nevermind a Reniasance, complete attachment set, great working cond. and bags for 125 bucks.

Post# 108610 , Reply# 30   9/18/2010 at 01:21 (4,940 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Hey guys, before this thread dies, I wanted to say a special thanks to Rob, Nathan, and Steven, and both Kennys... I appreciate all your responses and they were very helpful. This is sometimes a slow moving forum, and sometimes posts go completely unanswered, so I do sincerely appreciate people who take the time to respond. Thank you so much!

I still adore the machine and can't wait for the attachments to get here. I think this was the best purchase I've ever made! I wish I had ACRES of carpet to vacuum with it, because I never want to stop! If the hose or any part of it breaks, I will fix it no matter the cost, because I never what to be without this thing, what a treasure!

thanks :o)


Post# 108617 , Reply# 31   9/18/2010 at 07:37 (4,939 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Tell me about this Electrolux please!

Bobby,
Thanks for sharing your story. I think this will be a classic Electroux as the years go by just because it was one of the last true Electolux designs and it has such a true Electrolux "feel" and "sound".
It is like some of the other machines. XXX,g's and Hoover Convertibles,Dail-a-matic's and Constellations. They may not be your favorite sweeper but you can always learn something new from the vac forum thread!
Here is my Electolux Epic 8000 and one of my favorites too.
Rob


Post# 108627 , Reply# 32   9/18/2010 at 09:31 (4,939 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Wow, Rob, that looks great! I just realized that I paid the same amount for my Diamond Jubilee that I did for this Renaissance! I've had the DJ for 8 years now... I got it when I was 19 and turned 27 yesterday, man it doesn't seem that long! I actually got it from a customer when I sold vacs at Sears. I sold a lady a direct drive Kenmore upright because she was sick of her canister Lux, and I mentioned something about collecting old vacuums. She said she was going to sell her old one at a yard sale to benefit cancer research and if I'd just write a check to the American Cancer Society for 25 dollars and give it to her she'd bring me the machine.... it included a brand new box of 25 germgrabber C bags (still have most of them!), a crevice tool, the power nozzle and floor/flip tool. I didn't use it much because it was whiny and not very powerful (I got my Rainbow SE much the same way, but that time I sold the lady Progressive bagged canister and had to pay 75 dollars). However, this Renaissance is more powerful than my Miele Plus... the agitator is definitely better and it has more suction than any vacuum I own. I just missed the UPS man because I was sleeping, but my attachments or crevice tool are waiting for me at the apartment office!

Post# 108632 , Reply# 33   9/18/2010 at 13:35 (4,939 days old) by joe22 ()        
epic 8000

i have one also, love the red trim on it and it is a most excellent vac

Post# 108633 , Reply# 34   9/18/2010 at 15:26 (4,939 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Happy Birthday Bobby!

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Wow that was fast delivery for your attahments. I think you are going to like the Sidekick, I love my powermate Jr'. Id like to find a Rainbow onw tho caus they have the cogged type belt. Can you (or someone lol)tell me of the Sidekick has a cogged belt? My PM jr is great but the belts suck and they are expensive, so I cut a DD handvac belt in half and that works better and cheaper but I know im damaging the motor using that belt.
K


Post# 108662 , Reply# 35   9/18/2010 at 19:18 (4,939 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

I'll let you know when it arrives.... is was the darn crevice tool that came straight from Aerus today! I've never used a crevice tool in my life, but if a vacuum has on board attachments, I want them.... it feels naked without them!

Post# 108663 , Reply# 36   9/18/2010 at 20:06 (4,939 days old) by deliriousdan ()        

We bought a Guardian 75th Anniversary edition when they came out. I wished the Renaissance had still been available. I love the Guardian, but dislike the kludgy HEPA afterfilter. It ruins the line of the design, and if you break the flimsy clips that hold it in place, you have no choice but to replace it or deal with the exhaust blowing straight up at you. I like the dark gray color of the Renaiisance a bit better too.

Post# 108664 , Reply# 37   9/18/2010 at 20:11 (4,939 days old) by deliriousdan ()        
Ranaissance/Guardian wheel placement

is similar to the wheel placement on Postal equipment known as "Floats' or "Nutting Trucks" The fixed side wheels and swivel wheels on the end allow the truck to be maneuvered within a zero turning radius.

Post# 108685 , Reply# 38   9/19/2010 at 03:06 (4,939 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)        

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Bobby,
Im so glad that I could be of any help. Its nice to be able to contribute something on this forum once and a while, and not be the one asking questions. There are so many knowledgable members who are just a walking library with a wealth of information on so many vacs. We are the same age, Ill be 27 the end of December, and its funny how quickly time goes by. I remember when the Renaissance came out and then when Electrolux introduced the Guardian. The Renny and Epic 8000 are more beautiful than the Guardian with its after thought after filter sticking out of the top of its lovely shapely body. Electrolux may not offer the best preformance on the market but they still make a great vac that can take the abuse and keep on going. Its a shame they discontinued the Renaissance body style, its much better looking than the new Guardian Ultra. Best of luck with your Electrolux and Happy Vacuuming! You really got a great deal and a vac that should give you great service for many years to come!
~Steven


Post# 108947 , Reply# 39   9/21/2010 at 15:14 (4,936 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
Hey guys

I did a video :o)

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Post# 108987 , Reply# 40   9/21/2010 at 22:29 (4,936 days old) by luxg ()        

Great video Bobby, thanks for sharing it. Glad you are happy with your new LUX!

Terry


Post# 109008 , Reply# 41   9/22/2010 at 12:42 (4,935 days old) by joe22 ()        

yes lux or aerus or whatever got it right with the Renaissance and later epics/guardians

too bad they have taken several steps backwards with the new ultra....tsk tsk tsk


Post# 109035 , Reply# 42   9/22/2010 at 21:50 (4,935 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Joe, I quite agree.... the Guardian/Renny looked better and had many more features than their current offerings.

To finalize the saga, my attachments came today. Of course I waited all day for the UPS guy to come and right when I said "screw this" and decided not to put my day on hold any longer, I jumped in the shower and there he was. Thank goodness I had only gotten one leg in... this guy gave three gentle taps on the door and had already put the sticker on and was heading back to the truck to bring my attachments to the apartment office (which was closed by 6, when he finally got there)... I threw on the nearest things I could find (inside out and backwards, mind you) and chased him down, I was ready to jump him and wrestle him to the ground for my silly attachments. He told me to throw the door sticker away.... what else was I going to do with it? I mean really! The guy who brought my replacement cell phone last week beat on the door for 3 minutes LOUDLY.... he did not want to go all the way to office period! That was at 1, and again I was in the shower... they must have a hidden camera somewhere, they know when you are busy and only come then! I started to go about my day on purpose, because I knew that would "make" him come... it did! Magic!

So, since my dusting brush, sidekick, and bare floor tool are from a Guardian (from the Ebay auction), the upholstery tool is original to the machine, and the crevice tool is from Aerus, they are ALL different colors, and don't match. But, I have them now, so I'm happy. I was a bit surprised at the sidekick.... it was loud and rattled and slowed considerably when I touched it to the couch and ottoman.... it did a fine job on the cat hair, but is all that racket necessary? It bogged down worse than my turbo tools and this thing is electric! The Powermate Juniors that came with the Progressive canisters when I sold vacs at Sears didn't behave in such a manner, and considering the price difference between Kenmore/Panasonic and Electrolux, I'm really surprised.... almost disappointed. I watched a Youtube video that had a sidekick to try to see if my sounded similar, and it did, so I don't think there's a problem. I think that is just how they are. The flip tool had an issue too.... on the carpet side, one of the metal retaining tabs (the thing the screw goes in) stuck out much further than the one on the other side and wasn't flush.... it looked bad and made the nozzle sit crooked, so I had to beat it back into shape with a hammer... still not perfect, but it's tolerable. I used the bare floor tool in the kitchen, and I really like this new one compared to the one for the Diamond Jubilee because of the cut outs in the brushes so snow plowing is greatly reduced. I also dusted the top of the 'fridge with the dusting brush and it worked well. Glad to finally have all the attachments now so I can use them, though I will probably leave neutral or no feedback for the seller, there was a lot of dirt/fluff on the dusting brush and bare floor tool, and they didn't mention that in the auction.... they also didn't mention the floor tool had a bowed out metal piece!


Post# 109037 , Reply# 43   9/22/2010 at 22:08 (4,935 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Someone asked if the sidekick had a cogged belt.... it does. Here's a picture of the inside so you can see the motor... the brush seems to spin freely.


Post# 109038 , Reply# 44   9/22/2010 at 22:12 (4,935 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        
floor tool

and a picture of the floor tool.... see how the metal piece on the right side sticks out? What in the world could cause that? And trust me, they are both screwed in as tight as they will go, I tried to loosen them a bit and see if maybe they were too tight and it was causing one to bow up under pressure, but no such luck.... so I tightened them all the way, but had to be careful not to strip anything. The good news is that I used it a little bit on the carpet, and it picked up very well, again, the suction is tremendous!



Post# 109078 , Reply# 45   9/23/2010 at 06:52 (4,934 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I had a Lux 9000 with the sidekick and it would not bog down at all when used on the plusher carpeting. Nor did it shake or make a louder than normal noise. I did have problems with cat hair getting wound around the ends of the brush rollers causing it not to turn freely but I put in a new brush roll and it worked great again. It is much quieter and more powerful than my suction operated turbo brush.

Gary


Post# 109086 , Reply# 46   9/23/2010 at 09:20 (4,934 days old) by vacuumfreeeke ()        

Gary, thanks for sharing your experience.... maybe I should make a video so you guys can tell me if this thing is normal or not.... I need to ask for a refund if it's malfunctioning!

Post# 109092 , Reply# 47   9/23/2010 at 11:05 (4,934 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I also have the older model of sidekick that fits the older style of hose - it works great too!

Gary


Post# 246987 , Reply# 48   8/21/2013 at 17:59 (3,871 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

The Wessel Werk HEB160 does NOT bog down at all, no matter how thick the upholstery or carpet is.  It even does a nice job on shag carpeted stairs. Here's the HEB160 attached to the Ambassador hose.




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Post# 247006 , Reply# 49   8/21/2013 at 20:12 (3,871 days old) by kenkart ()        
I wish..

They had made the Rennisance with the old style hose and tools, it would have been perfect.


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