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Post# 10243   2/20/2007 at 17:27 (6,273 days old) by alexb1186 (Ferguson/St. Louis, MO)        

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I expanded my vacuum hunt to Sedalia and made a pit stop at House of Vacuums. The owner was real gracious and let me in his storage unit across from his shop. While in there I gasped when I saw a Hoover Innovation U5045. And I saw this Convertible-esque Hoover Encore model U4595 and took it. Since he hadn't gotten to inspecting and tweaking any possible bugs, he sold me both for $30.

They both work great in cleaning, except on the Innovation the handle release is broke and won't stay standing up. Anybody know how to fix this?


Post# 10245 , Reply# 1   2/20/2007 at 17:29 (6,273 days old) by alexb1186 (Ferguson/St. Louis, MO)        
Encore

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the cord was black like that when I found it

Post# 10246 , Reply# 2   2/20/2007 at 17:29 (6,273 days old) by alexb1186 (Ferguson/St. Louis, MO)        
upclose plate

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here's the hood up close

Post# 10250 , Reply# 3   2/20/2007 at 18:16 (6,273 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Alex...

Congratulations on your Hoover finds. Sounds like a very nice shop owner as you got them both very reasonably. I have the same Innovation. I am not sure how to repair the foot release. I am sure if you tinker with it long enough that you will be able to solve the problem. The biggest problem with that model is the handle itself. The top part (grip) seems to snap off there at the "bend" in the handle. Looks like you have a good one. Also that is the top model in the Innovation line and was pretty expensive when new. However, if you have used it you know how well it cleans!

Congrats too on the Convertible. They slapped "Encore" on lots of things over the years particularly in the 1990s. I wonder just how Limited the production really was on this machine. It does clean carpet though! This one looks to be in very good condition too.

Wow two Hoovers in one day! That is what I call real luck!!

--Tom


Post# 10251 , Reply# 4   2/20/2007 at 18:39 (6,273 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Nice finds!

The Encore was made approx 1988-91 or so, as a cheaper alternative to the U4497 Convertible 700(which was also called Legacy) The cord should be platinum grey to match the handle.
You should also find the date of manufacture in the first four digits of the serial number.
The Encore is kind of a rare bird, I've not seen nearly as many of those as I have of the U4497..
Congrats!

Jeff


Post# 10252 , Reply# 5   2/20/2007 at 18:45 (6,273 days old) by alexb1186 (Ferguson/St. Louis, MO)        

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Jeff that was gonna be another question about the first 4 numbers in the serial number if they correspond to a date? The Innovation was made August 1988 (if the first 4 are 0888) and the Encore November 1990 (1190)

Post# 10253 , Reply# 6   2/20/2007 at 18:54 (6,273 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
yes

You are correct Alex, Hoover started that in 87 or 88 I believe.

Post# 10254 , Reply# 7   2/20/2007 at 19:12 (6,273 days old) by alexb1186 (Ferguson/St. Louis, MO)        

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Tom, I took the hood off and there's a little plastic end with notches that the handle release nests on. It looked like one of the notches was broken off and I'm guessing that's the one that puts the vacuum in the upright position

Post# 10264 , Reply# 8   2/21/2007 at 00:33 (6,273 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Innovations/Turbomasters

Hey Alex

See the link for a thread on these- as you are no doubt aware the Innovation is a UK built machine, ive got pics of the UK version on this thread :).

With regard to the handle release the only cure for this is a new main body- obviously that isnt gonna happen :(.

Cheers
Seamus


CLICK HERE TO GO TO seamusuk's LINK


Post# 10266 , Reply# 9   2/21/2007 at 03:12 (6,272 days old) by alexb1186 (Ferguson/St. Louis, MO)        

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Seamus, I found the Innovation schematic on Hescoinc.com, and I can't tell from the diagram if it's the "actuator cam" that needs replacing

Post# 10269 , Reply# 10   2/21/2007 at 07:25 (6,272 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
Welcome

Hi Alex I see you are a new member to our club as i am so to begin with i would like to welcome you. I LOVE this club. Very nice find you are lucky to be able to find such nice units.Here on Long Island finding vacuums is getting harder every day.I just got done changing the handle and carbon brushes on my Hoover 918 thanks to TOM he sent me all i needed a real nice guy who cares about other people. Alex if you would like to e-mail me we could exchange stories and talk vacuums. Take care Doug.

Post# 10270 , Reply# 11   2/21/2007 at 07:45 (6,272 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Cams...

Alex

You could be right- I must confess its a while since ive had one of these apart!, your best bet it to take the hood off and investigate ;). There are 2 screws, one under the belts and one in the dust channel opposite.

Seamus


Post# 10271 , Reply# 12   2/21/2007 at 07:50 (6,272 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
And if id read back......

Id have noticed youve done that bit DOH!!!!

Seamus



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