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Post# 101578   6/22/2010 at 22:12 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        

My prediction was correct! Underneath that original layer of grime lives a beauty!

Here's the before shot once more...





Post# 101579 , Reply# 1   6/22/2010 at 22:16 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
And the after!!!

Taaaa daaa!

I had never had a Junior of this variety before... I didn't have any problem though, totally disassembling it and giving all the parts a warm, soapy bath... and re-greasing then re-assembling.

It's pretty similar to the model 115 and 13/14 lark, motor-wise.


Post# 101580 , Reply# 2   6/22/2010 at 22:17 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Rear-shot...

It's just such a super cute machine!

Post# 101582 , Reply# 3   6/22/2010 at 22:17 (3,401 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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Wow! That's outstanding!

Post# 101583 , Reply# 4   6/22/2010 at 22:18 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Junior! Junior!

Full-length!

Post# 101584 , Reply# 5   6/22/2010 at 22:18 (3,401 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        
Wow

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fantastic transformation, Fred! That's a cutie.

Post# 101585 , Reply# 6   6/22/2010 at 22:19 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Underside...

Every one of these I've seen, that label is either totally missing, halfway gone, or at least starting to peel away...

Post# 101586 , Reply# 7   6/22/2010 at 22:20 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Aaaand...

This one was no exception...

Post# 101587 , Reply# 8   6/22/2010 at 22:20 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Glaaaaaaam Shot!

Fabulous, isn't it?

Post# 101589 , Reply# 9   6/22/2010 at 22:22 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        

One super-satisfied Junior-user!

Post# 101591 , Reply# 10   6/22/2010 at 22:25 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        

One more, for good measure...

It just sparkles!


Post# 101592 , Reply# 11   6/22/2010 at 22:27 (3,401 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Amost forgot!!

We found it in a house across the street from Mary Tyler Moore's house!! ((Well, the house used in exterior shots for the MTM show))

Post# 101593 , Reply# 12   6/22/2010 at 22:29 (3,401 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        
Hey!

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Maybe it was Mary's, or Rhoda's!

Post# 101594 , Reply# 13   6/22/2010 at 22:36 (3,401 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Yay for Hoover Juniors!

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The machine post-restoration came out absolutely beautiful, the after pictures really don't do it full justice!

Post# 101611 , Reply# 14   6/23/2010 at 05:15 (3,400 days old) by junior1975 ()        
Beautiful example Fred.

I wish we had some of the US colours here in the UK, ours are pretty dowdy in comparison,

Don't wish to sound picky, but the furniture guard is on upside down. The shallower bevel should be at the bottom and the deeper at the top. :D:D:D:D< Sorry, I'm just a perfectionist with my Juniors. Do you still need the brush strips? I found you a couple of packs out which I can post at the weekend.

Happy hoovering,

Clark.


Post# 101616 , Reply# 15   6/23/2010 at 06:53 (3,400 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        

Great job Fred......it looks brand new!

Rick


Post# 101626 , Reply# 16   6/23/2010 at 07:40 (3,400 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        
WOW

that thing did clean up nice, now I will admit that I have never been a hoover person not that they dont clean well but I can never get the dang things to work somehow even when I had the motors swaped between two celebrities it still got screwed up but anyways the hoover juinor has always caught my eye and I have wanted one for a long time but it has always eluded me but enough of that talk I cant wailt to see your colection next year!!!
-scott


Post# 101629 , Reply# 17   6/23/2010 at 07:56 (3,400 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Lovely job

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Like everyone else I think this has come up great. I guess its just the tools for it now?

Like Clark I think the 1348 is a very attractive colour combination, although I would not have noticed the bumper if I am to be honest.

Its one thing I find odd that the mainstream UK models were (as Clark says) a bit dowdy as models like the 1348 and some of the exclusives had very attractive colour combinations. Maybe they thought we had had enough with two (quite similar) green versions of the 1334 (or was it three? I have the notion that the 1334E was a little different from the Smoke Pine/Swedish Green 1334). Simon used to have a couple of lovely 1346 exclusives White/Green (a bit darker that the 1348 but not bottle green) and the beautiful "Challenge" in two tone lilac. The only mainstream green 1346 I recall was the seldom seen (and short lived) White/Jade Green version.

The did that colour scheme in the Connie too, Gary (Electron 1100 from AutomaticWasher) has a beautiful example of one of these.
Al


Post# 101642 , Reply# 18   6/23/2010 at 09:31 (3,400 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        

Nice machine Fred, and your display room looks awesome! Can't wait to see it next year! There was just a set of the matching tools for these on ebay, hope you were the successful winner. I have this one and the final model of the junior, I think we talked about that. It had the complete set of tools, receipt from Famous-Barr, had that butterscotchy plaid bag. It now resides in a fellow members collection.

Post# 101655 , Reply# 19   6/23/2010 at 11:30 (3,400 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Nice :)

Hey Fred

I thought that would come up well - defiantly a hidden diamond :).

As I put on your AW thread, thats a post 77 version going on the fact that design of height adjuster first appeared over here with the U1012/U1016 Dirtsearcher both of which made their debut in 77.

Its odd US versions have the sticker on the base. The only UK models from the original 1334 to my late model U1012 with the sticker there are the original 1346(your 1340??)and the 1st Dirtsearcher 1354- both of which normally have it missing/worn. All the others have the plate/sticker under the front cover to the left of the belt opening.

Seamus


Post# 101656 , Reply# 20   6/23/2010 at 11:55 (3,400 days old) by junior1975 ()        
1977?

Seamus dude!! :D:D:D:D:D

I thought the U1012 was a late 1975 early 76 introduction? I know my older one is may 76 iirc.

Don't mean to be pedantic! LOL

Hope you are well and life is treating you properly, as it should mate.

Will call you some point this week.

Happy hoovering cap'n.

Clark.


Post# 101663 , Reply# 21   6/23/2010 at 12:23 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        

Thanks for all of the info!

I couldn't remember which way the bumper went on, so went with it... good eye for catching that it's incorrect! I'll be switching it back shortly.

I would like to find a set of tools for this at some point... I'm not in any hurry, I doubt I'll be dusting my house with it. But they'd be fun to have. In fact, I think I have a hose for a junior -- I recall having an Ultraflex hose that has a rather large, funny-looking aluminum adapter affixed to one end of it. But I think there's a converter that needs to hook onto the machine in order for the hose to properly attach.

What's the suction/airflow like, anyways? Better or worse than a Convertible?

Rick~ I did not see the set of tools on eBay... :-( Oh well, there will be more.

Now, I shall scan and post my Junior Spec-Sheets that I just found...



Post# 101664 , Reply# 22   6/23/2010 at 12:40 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Scan Time!

I was fortunate enough to get a HUGE binder of old spec-sheets from the Hoover store I used to work at... Full of mostly 70s and 80s uprights, canisters, polishers, and all of the small appliances... So, of course, I had these... which I thought I'd scan and share! Enjoy!

Post# 101665 , Reply# 23   6/23/2010 at 12:40 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Back!

Same spec sheet, backside.

Post# 101666 , Reply# 24   6/23/2010 at 12:42 (3,400 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        

Hello Fred,

Love the junior and your display area; I'd love to see your upright display area.

Every 2nd or 3rd house in Britain seemed to have a 1300 series junior when I was a boy, it was replaced in 78/79 with the lacklustre U1036.

I think I may have the UK instructions for the 1348 and some cleaning tool adaptor parts ?

Well done !!

Regards from land locked middle England.

Walter.


Post# 101667 , Reply# 25   6/23/2010 at 12:44 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Group Shot!

This must be the 1977 or 1978 product lineup... whichever year, it was the last year with the Dial A Matics as top of the line cleaners. But the type-A bag had just come out, on the U4103 and U4101. The U4101 is the cleaner that started it all for me. My parents bought one in April of 1979 (which I still have)... it's the very first vacuum I remember.

They obviously didn't proof this picture very well, I would assume that's the cord for the Junior wrapped up and sticking up behind the cleaner in the picture.


Post# 101669 , Reply# 26   6/23/2010 at 12:46 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
U1025

Here's the other model we had.. which Rick mentioned in his post above. I think I've also seen this model with a plain brown bag, perhaps it was a replacement bag? I absolutely love the plaid bag!



Post# 101670 , Reply# 27   6/23/2010 at 12:47 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Backside!

You can see on the front side, the newer height adjustment knob, which Seamus mentioned in his post...

The hose that I mentioned having is completely different than the one in this picture. I'll have to find it and take a picture of that, too.


Post# 101673 , Reply# 28   6/23/2010 at 12:49 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Group Shot!

Here's the group shot from a later brochure -- 1979 -- when the Concept I came out (those are on a different page).

Post# 101674 , Reply# 29   6/23/2010 at 12:57 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Hose...

Here's the hose I have. I have never really known for sure which cleaner it went to. It looks totally different than the hoses pictured in the above spec-sheets.
Could it just be a later replacement hose? I assume I still need an adapter for it...?


Post# 101675 , Reply# 30   6/23/2010 at 13:03 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        

Here's a picture that Kevin, one of the washer boys took... and put together of me with my vacuums, when we had the big wash-in back in May. It gives you an idea of the upright room, which is still sort-of in progress.

Post# 101678 , Reply# 31   6/23/2010 at 13:26 (3,400 days old) by dial-a-nap (Omaha - the home of the TV Dinner)        

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Nice work, Fred, that did turn out sweet.

A good friend of mine had one of these - it was her father's vac when he and her mother split up. I couldn't wait to play with that vacuum when the opportunity came up!


Post# 101683 , Reply# 32   6/23/2010 at 13:46 (3,400 days old) by luxg ()        

Beautiful job Fred!!! What a fun little machine. At the first Chicago convention Ken W and I both won in the raffle. He took this machine and I took a much older Hoover. We ended up trading. Mine needed a new brush roll as it was all rusted out. I was lucky to find a brand new one. Great job!!!

Terry


Post# 101686 , Reply# 33   6/23/2010 at 13:52 (3,400 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Hose not later, but earlier

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Fred,

It looks like a Junior hose, but for the earlier version, by the time of the 1348 it was a plastic connector. The earlier version used a slightly different convertor so the metal version may not fit the later. If you check out the spec sheet, you will see the convertor which you hold up to the front of the cleaner (having removed the plate of course) and twist it counter clockwise to lift the belt and lock the convertor in. The hose then goes straight in. The earlier convertor had a little handle on the locking ring and I seem to think (may be wrong) that it turned clockwise.

The suction is at least as good as the convertable, and probably a bit better, as the hose goes right up to and cobers the fan chamber.

Seamus is right though, yours has the later height adjustment control, as seen in your 1977 group shot, as compared to the spec sheet.

This basic design continued for amost 25 years from the 1334, through to the U1012 which was discontinued as a Hoover mainstrean model in 1977, although it lived on for another 5 or 6 years as a catalogue exclusive and even had a hardbag incarnation - Rob or Paul posted a picture of this recently.

This picture was taken in 2007, the top cleaner is a catalogue 1346 (not new style height control) which is the green combo I referred to earlier, along with the first 1346 and the rare 1016. From the U1012 (which looks like the 1981 version but with a yellow bag rather than the golfing trousers version you had) Juniors in the UK had a top fill bag


Post# 101688 , Reply# 34   6/23/2010 at 13:53 (3,400 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Lilic

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Here is the lilac version the "Challange" another catalogue exclusive

Post# 101690 , Reply# 35   6/23/2010 at 13:58 (3,400 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
The earlier version of tools

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Is in the middle, you can see the difference in the convertor

Also Junior 370 tools on the left and Junior 375 tools on the right


Post# 101695 , Reply# 36   6/23/2010 at 14:53 (3,400 days old) by myvacsrock (New York, NY)        
Wow..

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Verrry nice..!!

Fred, what do you use on the bumpers to make them look so nice? I find just soaking mine in warm water with some sort of detergent does next to nothing at all. Thanks!


Post# 101699 , Reply# 37   6/23/2010 at 15:11 (3,400 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT)        

Nice job on the junior. It looks great.
Where did you get the awesome neon Hoover sign? I love it!
Nicholas


Post# 101700 , Reply# 38   6/23/2010 at 15:21 (3,400 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Erm My bad........

Hey Clark

My "Proper" U1012 is indeed from Feb 1976.........

I stand corrected *Blush*

Seamus

Fred...

Im in the process of going through boxes to try and catalogue what ive actually got lol- I also need to Ebay some bits as well. If I come across a spare converter its yours :).


Post# 101701 , Reply# 39   6/23/2010 at 15:25 (3,400 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Tool Suction.....

Fred

Its actually noticeably better than a rear conversion Senior/Convertible despite the far lower wattage. The reason being the converter is pretty much airtight against the fan when fitted (In the same way as on a 115/Lark etc)

S


Post# 101705 , Reply# 40   6/23/2010 at 15:50 (3,400 days old) by swingette ()        
Fred's hose

To me, that looks like a replacement for the old 28/61 style machines. Or maybe model 64.

Post# 101767 , Reply# 41   6/23/2010 at 22:42 (3,400 days old) by kirbyclassiciii (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
1979 Hoover Vacuum Brochure

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Hi Fred,

Does this 1979 Hoover vacuum brochure feature the new Concept One uprights and the S1029 Portapower canister with wheels?

~Ben


Post# 101770 , Reply# 42   6/23/2010 at 22:59 (3,400 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Yup..

Wow! Thanks for posting all of those pictures, and all of the information! I am loving this machine! And wishing I had paid more attention to them long ago... I think I may have another junior stuffed in a box, from 2 moves ago. I think it may be a brown one. It was given to me right before I moved -- in a box it went.. and it's not seen the light of day since. I'll now have to dig it out! I don't remember if it's brown or green... I seem to remember that it's missing its bumper. Hmmm

Ben: The Concept 1 is in it; all 4 models... the Only Portapower is the white one with the red and blue stripes. Celebrities, portables, polishers and quick brooms are in the brochure, too.

Kyle: I just soaked this bumper in Simple Green and HOT water for a while, then used a 3M Scrubby pad. Usually I use rubbing alcohol on a sponge or rag (if the bumper doesn't come off).




Post# 101779 , Reply# 43   6/24/2010 at 03:05 (3,399 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Nice Work, Fred!

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You did an excellent job cleaning up the Junior, it looks beautiful! Nice pics of your collection too! Everything is well displayed!
Jeff


Post# 101827 , Reply# 44   6/24/2010 at 17:10 (3,399 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
I might have known

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That hardly do I mention the White/Jade Green Junior being quite rare than one pops up on ebay, although with a starting price of 25.00 is is not cheap for a cleaner getting on for 40 years old .....
Al


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Post# 101837 , Reply# 45   6/24/2010 at 22:37 (3,399 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Ooh..

That white/jade Junior is super cute!

Post# 101871 , Reply# 46   6/25/2010 at 14:03 (3,398 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Why.....

was the junior always manufactured in England? I know they sold well over the water, but curious as to why Ohio didn't assemble them as opposed to being shipped over here. Anybody know or have a guess?

Post# 101885 , Reply# 47   6/25/2010 at 17:47 (3,398 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Uk Made...

Hey Rick

The 115 and 12/14 were as far as I know made In NC.

The 1330 was built at Perivale and exported as a complete unit.

The models 1340, 1348 and U1025 were a joint effort so to speak- we made the base/motor unit and the handle/bag assemblies are American and were added at NC once they arrived there. If you compare a US and UK model the bags and handles are totally different.

The reason that springs to mind is that the limited demand for Junior/Lightweight models over there would make the tooling/moulds etc to make the main unit too expensive to justify NC having a set, plus obviously a seperate production line(or at least part of one) would be needed.

Just an idea??

Seamus


Post# 101894 , Reply# 48   6/26/2010 at 01:58 (3,398 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Sorry to disagree Seamus

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I have been told that they were all built in the UK, although Jack has confirmed they were all designed in NC. In believe that the US had the 115 some months before we had the 119 here, but then, given the need for exports at that time, that is hardly surprising.

And I think you are spot on with the production aspects. Indeed I have often suspected that was why we had the 612 from 1950 till 1955 when the US 62 was on sale from about 1950(?) that the old moulds and tooling were shipped here from the USA - but that is just my idea
Al


Post# 101947 , Reply# 49   6/27/2010 at 09:18 (3,396 days old) by 74simon ()        
Bit more info...

The early style hose (like yours, Fred) can use either the early adapter or the later type - the later hose with the plastic tube uses a bayonet fitting so the early type adapter isn't compatible (no slots for the lugs on the connector). I've got a spare early adapter, let me know if you want it!

The early type of hose with the metal tube and push-button coupler was designed so the cleaner could be used as a blower - the bag fill tube, on European machines at least, has a small rectangular slot that lets one attach the hose after the paper bag has been removed. Later hoses also fit the fill tube, but won't fasten into place.

The design was superseded in April 1968 by the bayonet type, the hoses for the 652 and 419 cylinder were also simplified at the same time.

Alistair - after I saw the picture of my old machines I ended up dreaming I still had the Challenge! I'm down to four Juniors from 16, but at least they're at home and not deteriorating in storage, like too many of my machines were...

Simon



Post# 101990 , Reply# 50   6/27/2010 at 17:32 (3,396 days old) by kirbyclassiciii (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Another Thing about the "Lightweight Uprights..."

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@SeamusUK
The USA-spec Lightweight Uprights (models 1340, 1348 and U1025) do not have the same serial # format as the UK Juniors.

~Ben


Post# 102019 , Reply# 51   6/28/2010 at 02:26 (3,395 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Serial numbers.....

Hey Ben

You are quite right- it always strikes me as strange because all the NC built/UK spec machines I have (2106 Portable,858 Connie,U4003 Convertible,U4147 Convertible and U6033 Powerdrive) have the serial # in the standard UK format. Maybe it was something Perivale specified as necessary???

Seamus


Post# 103334 , Reply# 52   7/14/2010 at 15:54 (3,379 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Oovas!!!

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Great find there Fred, and a lovely shade of green, quite different from the colour range here!! heres a line up of Hoover Junior UK models that we put together at Al`s home in London, to celebrate 100yrs of Hoover, following us all meeting in North Canton for the official 100th birthday...wow two yrs ago...(Al ..am sorting the photos as we speak to show them!!!)

Theres only one change in the line up!!! and we do know how that got there!!! dont we Jack..Lol


Post# 103336 , Reply# 53   7/14/2010 at 15:56 (3,379 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Presenting The New Hoover Junior

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and Hoover`s Wheel of Colour

Post# 103338 , Reply# 54   7/14/2010 at 15:59 (3,379 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Junior`s Starting ....

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From 1935 with the 370 model...

Post# 103339 , Reply# 55   7/14/2010 at 16:01 (3,379 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
And

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From 1958 with the re-styled 1334 Hoover Junior in ivory & rose

Post# 103340 , Reply# 56   7/14/2010 at 16:06 (3,379 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Such stunning machines, and equally stunning groupings there!

Post# 103341 , Reply# 57   7/14/2010 at 16:07 (3,379 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Juniors

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Specials...here with our Simon who has a passion for the obsqure models, produced for the independant stores & exclusive models!!!




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