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Post# 9034   2/5/2007 at 00:40 (6,287 days old) by vacjwt ()        

I am shore sum of you have pulled vacuums out of the trash well tonite I put out the trash and looked down the street and omg IIIIIIIIIIII! was runing runing to get that vacuum what vacuum you ask well I dont meen to boast but a hoover model o and it works

Post# 9035 , Reply# 1   2/5/2007 at 00:44 (6,287 days old) by convertible68 ()        

Post a picture of it. Also, check the nameplate, it should give you a location of manufacture...where in Ohio was it made?

Post# 9036 , Reply# 2   2/5/2007 at 01:08 (6,287 days old) by vacjwt ()        

dont have a camra that will work with my hp and the bag is mising what was the bag made of Id love to make a good copy

Post# 9104 , Reply# 3   2/5/2007 at 19:05 (6,286 days old) by vacuumboy95 ()        

how much do you want for that.I'll give you anything for it.

Post# 9110 , Reply# 4   2/5/2007 at 19:24 (6,286 days old) by vacjwt ()        

it is not for sale

Post# 9111 , Reply# 5   2/5/2007 at 19:47 (6,286 days old) by convertible68 ()        

Where's your PROOF? You don't need a camera to read a nameplate and find out the city in which it was made...

Post# 9116 , Reply# 6   2/5/2007 at 21:02 (6,286 days old) by vacjwt ()        

canton ohio why so importiant

Post# 9117 , Reply# 7   2/5/2007 at 21:03 (6,286 days old) by vacuumkid3 ()        

I think what he is saying is that it isn't everyday that someone finds a model O in the trash. After all, they are one of the most sought after vacuums in vacuum history!

~~K~~

Post# 9118 , Reply# 8   2/5/2007 at 21:07 (6,286 days old) by vacjwt ()        

by the way how many difrent locatons were thair sory for my bad spelling

Post# 9120 , Reply# 9   2/5/2007 at 21:43 (6,286 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Hey if it is a real Hoover model "O" from 1908 then it would say New Berlin as the place of manufacture not Canton, Ohio. You may have some other model. New Berlin became North Canton in 1919. What else does your nameplate say? The motor plate would say Westinghouse. A model "O" is a rare item!!!

--Tom

Post# 9129 , Reply# 10   2/5/2007 at 22:30 (6,286 days old) by vacjwt ()        

maby it is not a o than it looks like hoover made the motor plate is not westinghouse it is hoover I have looked at sum picthers of model o vacuums on line tonite and mine looks a litle more boxy than a model o did hoover make models that can be mistaken for the model o and what were thay I need your help
thank you guys john tyminski

Post# 9142 , Reply# 11   2/6/2007 at 00:20 (6,286 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

It's very hard to indentify such a machine without a photograph unless you give us a more detailed description - if you go to my website (I'll post a link below), have a look through and see if it looks like any of the ones shown there. Most machines from Model O through to Model 160 are covered.

Also, for anyone else who's interested, I've added some very interesting patent drawings to the 'Design Development' page, and to the '1908-19' page.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK
Post# 9149 , Reply# 12   2/6/2007 at 01:55 (6,286 days old) by electrolux1960 ()        
Re: Hey! John, vacjwt:

 As far as I'm concerned, anyone who is objecting to someone else's Spelling, Punchuation, Grammar, etc doesn't really need to broadcast it, in a harmful way to that person{s}. They should just read as best as they are able and keep their comments to theirselves.

Not everyone is able to spell well and there are several people on both the Vacuum Cleaner Club Site and the Appliance Club Site, that even don't really pay attention as to what their writing, so they transpose letters in their writings.

Just wanting you to know that I'm defending you and I'm certainly not perfect, but hey "nobody" is anyway. I don't give a DAMN what anybody says, nobodies perfect and if anyone says that they think that they are perfect, I would love to kick them in their "Back-Side" for thinking that they are perfect.

Hang in there and try to just ignore the harming ones and know that there are certainly enough people in the Club that are going to be supportive and as helpful as they are able to, with others needs of Vacuum Cleaner Repairs and/or Parts.

Peace and Kind Regards, Steve
Electrolux1960...

Post# 9151 , Reply# 13   2/6/2007 at 02:34 (6,286 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Have I missed something? I don't think anyone here has critised anyone else's spelling or punctuation?

Post# 9152 , Reply# 14   2/6/2007 at 02:48 (6,286 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

*criticised, lol

Just to clarify, in this particular thread, vacjwt apologised for his spelling, but as far as I can see, he wasn't prompted to do this by anyone else?

Post# 9155 , Reply# 15   2/6/2007 at 05:51 (6,285 days old) by vacuumboy95 ()        

is it okay if I come and see it?

Post# 9165 , Reply# 16   2/6/2007 at 08:55 (6,285 days old) by rocketwarrior ()        
Mark Twain

 Mark Twain said "....only a darn fool can't think of more than one way to spell a word."

Post# 9172 , Reply# 17   2/6/2007 at 12:21 (6,285 days old) by charles~richard ()        
Okay, here comes the school teacher in me coming out...

 While I would never presume to publicly take someone to task for their grammar or spelling, poor use of these skills does make it more difficult to read and comprehend people's communications when they are written carelessly -- or deliberately poorly.

I am far from perfect in my use of language skills, but I do take pride in what I write. I am finding that with the passing of time, my spelling is getting gradually but definitely worse. So I do at least take the time to run a spell check on my internet postings and emails and, on the longer ones, proofread them for grammar and punctuation.

I'm just old enough (barely!) to have grown up in an era when spelling, grammar and punctuation were valued and were taught in school as essential skills, along with great emphasis on clean and legible penmanship.

"Pride of ownership" was instilled in students - a sense of value in one's writing and a desire to take responsibility for communicating clearly and lucidly.

In a different era, students who learned to write in longhand, and then in the next phase learned to use typewriters, also had to learn how to take more care with expressing themselves. There were no bottles of white-out or delete keys.

(Indeed, today, many people have even dispensed with the white-out, actual and figurative. Instead, they just dump their words out onto the computer screen and press SEND, caring little or none as to how their words represent them.)

I guess this changed with computers and word processors and hand-helds, where it's so easy to tap out a bunch of words and send them around the world, without really having to labor over them.

Today, words are moved to and fro so fast that it seems there's no time to properly construct them. Nor, for that matter, is there really any time to properly digest them on the receiving end. Everything in our society has become so fast. And there is a dark side to that "progress."

Furthermore, school children are no longer criticized for their deficiencies in these areas lest their feelings get hurt and their self esteem become impacted. The net result of this lack of training and discipline shows up all over the Internet. We have become a society of borderline-illiterate people, scarcely able to converse with one another due to poor communication skills. Not only in spelling, punctuation and grammar, but indeed it seems that many people don't even have a basic understanding of the English language and good sentence structure.

Another aspect to consider is that "common people" struggled and fought for centuries for the right to be educated. Maybe some young folks are unaware that many world governments and dictators throughout history deliberately denied the populace the opportunity to become literate. The less-educated people are, the easier it is to control and manipulate them. The Catholic Church also purposefully kept people ignorant, illiterate and unenlightened by conducting masses in a dead language (Latin).

Shall we now just toss out those hard-won rights simply because some people just don't care about being educated and indeed in many cases take pride in their ignorance -- preferring to come off as illiterate because they believe it makes them appear rebellious?

To those who want to "rebel against the system," the WORST way to do so is to deny themselves a good education - and to take no "pride of ownership" in their communication skills. How can people express their discontent if they can't even spell the word?

There is no crime or shame in being educated and literate, despite those who deign to wear their lack of education as a badge of honor.

Any civilization that cannot communicate with itself is surely doomed.

Post# 9197 , Reply# 18   2/6/2007 at 15:38 (6,285 days old) by myvacsrock (USA)        

Here is MY model O hoover!

Kyle

Post# 9198 , Reply# 19   2/6/2007 at 15:48 (6,285 days old) by rocketwarrior ()        
Elitists

 Awww, c'mon Charles. We were getting along very well, living in caves, hunting, fiddlin' with fire, trying out this "upright" thing, etc. Then, a group of elitists (monks, I think, during a candle lit slumber party) decided to cut us out by deciding we should communicate in writing. First scribes, then printing press, then the word processor. We were doomed. New rule, boys and girls - everyone has to learn to read and write or be left behind. Doesn't matter how good a talker you are, the new rule says ya gots ta be able to read it and write it down. Uff dah.

Of course y'all have this handy dandy justification - progress. But I still think it was just an elitist coup to carve away the riff-raff. Sigh!

I have a client who just can't seem to bring himself to read his mail. I understand. I sympathize. He is a good listener, and can out talk all of us at the local diner table (well, maybe not me). But he looks at the envelope, unfolds the paper - words - no, more specifically, written words. And "the system," "this conspiracy of elitists." expects him to sit down and read them. And he looks around - who makes these rules anyway? Was it brought to a vote?

He looks at his cracked and puffy hands. Those hands designed to build, to create, to fight, to fashion, to mold,to waive, to salute, to ask for permission to go to the bathroom, to make shadows on the cave all,to emphasize - and he tries to imagine them picking up a quill. Instead of wringing a neck, he is expected to pluck out a quill and dip it in ink. Aaaarrrggghhhhh! But he knows the fight was lost long ago.

Oh, Charles, you're right.

But as a point of clarification, I think this thread only quite by accident got on this subject.

Post# 9199 , Reply# 20   2/6/2007 at 15:55 (6,285 days old) by vacjwt ()        

charles if some one can not spell that grate it dose not always mean thay are rebeling or that they deny themselves a good education I have pushed my self for many years to over come my leaning disabilitys no I can not spell good at all however I love to read and have bin very good with my hands for years since I was 13 I have bin bring radios from the 20s 30s 40s and the 50s back into my home and have got them to work agin at 15 I took a rca victor tv from 1948 out of a barn and recaped it and replaced 3 tubes rewound 2 coils and now it is working at factory speks and now I am in the mist of refinishing the wood floors in my moms house that dates back to the 1840s and have relined the wood guters on our house repointed all the bricks in the bacement and next summer I will be scrapeing all the paint on the house and re painting the house I write alot of poetry and if it gets run in the spell checker evry time dose not mean it is not good I have very poor spelling but I am smart none the less who gave you a the rite to teach I must say one thing you have bin schooled by some one WHO CANT SPELL!!!!!!!!!!!

Post# 9228 , Reply# 21   2/6/2007 at 19:22 (6,285 days old) by vacuumboy95 ()        

Hey vacjwt,I live in New Jersey too. Is it okay if I come over and see it?

Post# 9232 , Reply# 22   2/6/2007 at 19:44 (6,285 days old) by vacjwt ()        

kyle if that is your o than mine is not an o

Post# 9242 , Reply# 23   2/6/2007 at 20:19 (6,285 days old) by rocketwarrior ()        
Now we're really intersted.

 John, if you are thinking your machine is not an O, then we just have to know what it is! Do you have a friend or some way to post a picture - be fun to see it. Take care.

P.S. I work with my hands, too. Click link:

CLICK HERE TO GO TO rocketwarrior's LINK
Post# 9245 , Reply# 24   2/6/2007 at 20:44 (6,285 days old) by vacjwt ()        

yes have seen your work I think what you do is very neat

Post# 9249 , Reply# 25   2/6/2007 at 21:13 (6,285 days old) by charles~richard ()        


If deficient spelling and grammar are truly due to a learning disability, then yes that is a different matter. And not what I was talking about.

(Reminding everyone that I did not name any names or point any fingers or single anyone out.)

However, I cannot believe that the incomprehensibly bad spelling and grammar littering the internet is ALL due to learning disabilities. If is IS, then we REALLY are in deep doo-doo, because that means that humanity is losing the ability to learn.

Which, as it follows, means we WILL be back to the state of existence so eloquently depicted above by Rocketwarrior. Running around with sticks and spears, dressing in animal skins, living in caves, and grunting at one another.

Personally, I'd rather be accused of being an elitist than a neanderthal.

Post# 9252 , Reply# 26   2/6/2007 at 21:34 (6,285 days old) by vacjwt ()        

I have aspberger syndrome wich makes it very hard to make frends socialize learn and makes nomal things very hard to do I cant evin go to public school dew to this if you do not know what this is please take the time to look it up I hope you can understand why what you wrote pushed one of my buttons

Post# 9254 , Reply# 27   2/6/2007 at 21:44 (6,285 days old) by dial-a-matic ()        
READ THIS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS !!!!

 Jhon,
Hope this dosent make you feel bad although it is not bad. :<)

Thank you,
-a-
And anyway, I think i have a problem, sometimes i just feel like I am getting electrocuted but im not? :.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO dial-a-matic's LINK
Post# 9255 , Reply# 28   2/6/2007 at 22:18 (6,285 days old) by vacjwt ()        

thank you very much I think that some vcc member may have this

Post# 9260 , Reply# 29   2/6/2007 at 22:35 (6,285 days old) by charles~richard ()        
Aspergers

 has been discussed at great length both here and in automaticwasher.org. I am not a medical professional so I cannot, would not, presume to offer diagnoses on anyone's conditions.

Post# 9273 , Reply# 30   2/7/2007 at 04:52 (6,284 days old) by thekiz (Oklahoma City)        
vacuumkid3

 I'm not good at things like you. Maybe because I'm an old dude.How do you get your K online w/ the wavey lines? Sorry to be off subject but just wonder. It's all I can do to find the propper keys on my laptop.
Russ

Post# 9274 , Reply# 31   2/7/2007 at 05:11 (6,284 days old) by thekiz (Oklahoma City)        
Off -Subject

 Please, can we get on subject again, or at least be kind with each other? Don't you think older vacuums suck better than the new plastic stuff?


thekiz

Post# 9276 , Reply# 32   2/7/2007 at 05:45 (6,284 days old) by junior1975 ()        
Off SUBJECT.

 Yes, it seems to be bending towards the reason this forum was closed for a while a couple of weeks ago. Come on guy's get the petty bickering out of vacuumland. We are all members for the same reason, and here is not the place to be discussing peoples personal issues.

Well said Kiz,

BTW, the older stuff is FAR FAR better than the new plastic garbage that is mass produced to last 12 months, die, and be replaced.

Hoover model 912 anyday.

Happy hoovering folks.

Post# 9277 , Reply# 33   2/7/2007 at 06:14 (6,284 days old) by sudsman ()        
Spelling problems

I at one time got A+ in spelling. After taking Gregg Shorthand (which most people don't know what it is nowdays) I have rarely been able to compose a letter with out many errors. Shorthand actually made you mispell words to shorten them and write faster.. I have known Dr.s that are very well known at that can't even spell the name Doctor.

Post# 9279 , Reply# 34   2/7/2007 at 07:21 (6,284 days old) by vacuumkid3 ()        

thekiz:

off-topic, but it is shift and the key next to the one key. :-)

~~K~~

Post# 9285 , Reply# 35   2/7/2007 at 08:07 (6,284 days old) by sudsman ()        
Charles

Another problem today is that too many commericals misspell and butcher the words so badly that sometimes it is hard to tell what the proper spelling really is. Also a problem here in Texas is the Tex Mex spelling of words half spanish and half english.. It's getting to be a real mess here...

Post# 9302 , Reply# 36   2/7/2007 at 11:43 (6,284 days old) by charles~richard ()        
Well, granted this has veered a bit off-topic,

 but I don't hear anyone bickering! I think this has, so far, been an interesting and enlightening - and polite - discussion.

Post# 9306 , Reply# 37   2/7/2007 at 13:16 (6,284 days old) by junior1975 ()        
Charles

 Sorry, perhaps bickering was the wrong word.

I just dont want to see things get ugly and out of hand again, I thoroughly enjoy the privelidge of being able to post here and discuss my favourite subject with like minded people form all over the world. I am proud to be a member, if not a paid up member, and would like to thank you and all the other members of vacuum land who make it the place it is!

I have just started a topic on the model 90 Commercial on wards. Just for giggles as this is my facuorite Hoover cleaner of all time, and perhaps one of the best put together machines of all time!!!!

Anyone interested come along and have your say.

Just a note to vacjwt, PLEASE PLEASE try and get a picture of your mystery machine up for us all, the suspense is killing me!!

Happy hoovering all,

Clark.

Post# 9310 , Reply# 38   2/7/2007 at 14:35 (6,284 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Spelling was one of my few fortes back in grade school and I always prided myself on being good at it. However like Charles said of himself my spelling skills seem to have diminished over the last few years as well. Or it's possible that I just don't care so much anymore. LOL
An interesting thing that probably many people in America don't even know about or perhaps even care is that quite often they are derided over sanctioned US spellings versus the British spelling of certain words. Often as not I'll also see the occasional rant in our local Canadian paper chiding the editor for using an American spelling for a word such as "color". The offended writer claiming that "color" is not the Canadian and hence the proper British spelling of the word "colour". The catch is though that many if not more of these rogue US spellings are the same in Canada as they are in the USA but the affected writer doesn't seem to realize that. Yes we still spell "check, as in payroll check" as cheque like the British do but we do not spell many other British words the same.. For example, aluminum/aluminium, program/programme, curb/kerb, carburetor/carburettor. I had this friendly argument one time with a coworker emigre from Britain claiming that in Canada we use the British spelling. NO I said and I'll prove it whereupon I had to dig out my 1963 grade school officially sanctioned by the Ontario Board of Education Gr. 4 speller which clearly indicated that the Canadian spelling of those words was the same as the USA spelling and also to their horror that it was not incorrect though not common to also spell words like colour, honour, favour etc. without the letter U in them. These words were asterisked to a special note in the book advising the teachers of such.

Post# 9326 , Reply# 39   2/7/2007 at 15:24 (6,284 days old) by vacuumboy95 ()        

HEY! I don't mean to be rude but no one answered my question.can I come over and see this so called hhover O.

Post# 9347 , Reply# 40   2/7/2007 at 18:40 (6,284 days old) by charles~richard ()        
you spell colour, I spell color

 like the old, "You say toe-MAY-toe, I say ta-MAHH-ta" sort of thing I guess...

Post# 9369 , Reply# 41   2/7/2007 at 21:13 (6,284 days old) by vacjwt ()        

sory it took so long to get back to this form I now know what the model is it is a 105 that has ben fixed so many times it looks like many models in one and what was done is not somthing that will be fixed and it has just ben taken for parts vacuumboynj it was not worth the gas this time but Id love to meet you sumtime

Post# 9382 , Reply# 42   2/8/2007 at 06:14 (6,283 days old) by vacuumboy95 ()        

Okay just tell me when.

Post# 9399 , Reply# 43   2/8/2007 at 15:07 (6,283 days old) by vacjwt ()        

whare are you in nj and how old are you

Post# 9401 , Reply# 44   2/8/2007 at 16:02 (6,283 days old) by vacuumboy95 ()        

I live in bellmawr, New jersey and I'm 12.


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