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Post# 86718   12/21/2009 at 18:56 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

I got a new (old) cleaner today. Can you identify it?

(and if I've already told you, you can't play! :P)


Post# 86720 , Reply# 1   12/21/2009 at 18:58 (5,210 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Rats!

Lets me out!

Post# 86723 , Reply# 2   12/21/2009 at 19:15 (5,210 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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One of those rare double 'D' Ddono sweepers?

"Ddono - do no harm to Milady's carpets" - famous not often heard slogan of the Do-Knot Vacuum Sweeper Company.

What did I win?

prankish Davy.


Post# 86726 , Reply# 3   12/21/2009 at 19:28 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Ok...how about...now?

Post# 86727 , Reply# 4   12/21/2009 at 19:33 (5,210 days old) by kirbyotronic ()        

Is it some kind of Hoover? :)

Post# 86731 , Reply# 5   12/21/2009 at 19:49 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Alex...getting warmer... :)

Post# 86733 , Reply# 6   12/21/2009 at 20:01 (5,210 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX)        

is it a minor or a duster

Post# 86734 , Reply# 7   12/21/2009 at 20:01 (5,210 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()        

Hoover Duster/Minor?

Post# 86738 , Reply# 8   12/21/2009 at 20:27 (5,210 days old) by kirbyotronic ()        

I kind of was wondering if it was a Duster/Minor too! :P

Post# 86739 , Reply# 9   12/21/2009 at 20:32 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Yay!

Tyler won, but both he and Matt posted within the same minute, so congrats, guys - you both win something so magical, it's barely perceptible to the average human. But you feel it, don't you? :P

Anyway, yes, I've finally found something I've been hoping to obtain for for many years - Hoover's first-ever cylinder cleaner, the Minor Model 200.

Now, you may be thinking, 'Didn't he have one of those already!?' Well sort of. I have a Hoover Minor 200B - but although they look identical at a glance, there is barely a shared component between the 1930 Minor 200 and the 1934 Minor 200B. Motor, impeller, main casting, runners, switch, bag...all different!


Post# 86740 , Reply# 10   12/21/2009 at 20:33 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

I wish I could post some comparison pics of the 200 and the 200B side-by-side, but the 200B's on loan to the museum until the end of January :(

Post# 86742 , Reply# 11   12/21/2009 at 20:37 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

The bag - the 200B's bag is bigger to allow for greater airflow.

Note the words 'An Empire Product' - between 1919-32, all our Hoovers were imported from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. In 1932, the Hoover Factory in Perivale, West London opened, and from that point on, the Minor was manufactured there.

This is an earlier, Canadian-made Minor.


Post# 86743 , Reply# 12   12/21/2009 at 20:39 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Beautiful toggle-switch! As far as I know, the American Duster Model 200 never had a motor-mounted switch?

Post# 86745 , Reply# 13   12/21/2009 at 20:42 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

The impeller, held on with a rounded nut, rather than a belt pulley - aside from that and the switch, this is just a 575 motor, turned on its side!

Post# 86746 , Reply# 14   12/21/2009 at 20:44 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Ratings plate, and model/serial number:

Post# 86747 , Reply# 15   12/21/2009 at 20:45 (5,210 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

That concludes the pictures for now - it was already dark when I got home this evening, and the only light available was the horrible yellow glow from our energy-saving bulbs. I'll take some better pics sometime tomorrow, in natural daylight!

Post# 86761 , Reply# 16   12/21/2009 at 22:01 (5,210 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        
Beautiful, Jack....

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Here in the states, the Minor/Duster is a rare critter. Such wonderful machines. Congratulations on your find. JL

Post# 86773 , Reply# 17   12/21/2009 at 22:46 (5,210 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        

I knew it all along - but was told NOT to play.

I don't feel nothin'!

Nice machine Jack!


Post# 86777 , Reply# 18   12/21/2009 at 22:52 (5,210 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        
Jack-

You're correct about the switch. The Duster in the US has an inline switch on the cord. That's why I really had no idea what your picture was...!

I'm extremely lucky to have a Hoover Duster in my collection; it was a gift from Jeff Parker a few years back.

Yours is absolutely gorgeous! A true gem, indeed.
Where did it turn up?

~Fred


Post# 86784 , Reply# 19   12/21/2009 at 23:07 (5,210 days old) by luxg ()        

Jack, what a nice machine and so happy that one of your wants have been answered!! Did it arrive in that shape? It looks beautiful!!

Terry


Post# 86788 , Reply# 20   12/21/2009 at 23:41 (5,210 days old) by joe22 ()        

awesome find, major congrats

joe


Post# 86813 , Reply# 21   12/22/2009 at 10:26 (5,210 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin))        
Jack & Minor...

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Congrats, Jack.

It L@@Ks to be in very good condition.

hagd all

Bill


Post# 86838 , Reply# 22   12/22/2009 at 16:51 (5,209 days old) by akabent (LEFT Coast)        
That is GORGEOUS and I am....

....throughly jealous. You truly have an amazing machine and deserve major congratulations for it. And, if you need, I will send my postal address. What a great find, enjoy!!
Rick


Post# 87017 , Reply# 23   12/24/2009 at 13:37 (5,208 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Sorry for the delay, everyone - v. busy over Christmas, I'm sure you can all indentify!

John - it's pretty rare here, but it enjoyed a much longer production run in the UK. In the US, just 9004 were made in total, between 20th August and 18th November 1929. I don't have a production figure for the UK run, but it was made for 4 years, so I guess it would be quite a bit higher! Even so, it's taken me all this time to find one! The 200B was much rarer, that was just made for a short period in 1934.

Fred - I was pretty sure I'd never seen a Duster with the toggle-switch, so I thought I'd try and confuse you guys a little! The 200B has the inline switch, though...strange that they went back to the older style for that model!

I actually bought it from a guy who'd seen my 'Vintage Hoover Emporium' site, and was looking to rehome it. After some correspondence, I sent off the cheque, and was a little apprehensive that I might get nothing in return. Luckily, it arrived safely on Monday morning!

Terry - thanks! I gave the main casting a quick polish with some Autosol before I took the pics, but aside from that, it's just assembled straight from the shipping box. I don't think it's ever seen much use!

Joe and Bill - thank you! It's probably the best Christmas "gift" I'll get for quite a long time!

Rick - thanks! I don't trust the postal service, though...you better come and pick it up in person!

I've wanted a Hoover Minor since the first time I saw it on Paul Linnell's wonderful site, and reading that there were 2 versions, I naturally needed them both! I'm left with just 3 pre-war UK models to find; the 105, the 961 and the 972. Not really holding out much hope, but who knows? I've found all the others, so maybe those three are out there somewhere...


Post# 87018 , Reply# 24   12/24/2009 at 14:15 (5,208 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Wow!

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That is truly beautiful.

Love to see pictures of this in various positions with hose and attachments. Also love to see it with the bag inflated.

You have quite a find there, enjoy it.

Alex Taber


Post# 87019 , Reply# 25   12/24/2009 at 14:30 (5,208 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Very Nice Present

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That is a rare jem indeed Jack, Im glad it arrived safe and sound! Merry Christmas.

Post# 87036 , Reply# 26   12/24/2009 at 17:15 (5,207 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Hi Alex, here's the best I could do at this late hour!

Post# 87037 , Reply# 27   12/24/2009 at 17:16 (5,207 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

...

Post# 87038 , Reply# 28   12/24/2009 at 17:21 (5,207 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

As for tools, here's an old photo of the 200B set up with tools. You can see how much bigger the bag is on the updated model, too!

I'll take better pics as soon as I have some time, space, and natural daylight!


Post# 87065 , Reply# 29   12/25/2009 at 01:18 (5,207 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
That is fantastic!

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Thank's for taking the time to do this today, I didn't expect it to be this fast. What a wonderful Christmas present.

Actually I saw one of these at the Hoover Historical Center located in North Canton, Ohio, (USA). The year was 1980, and I got a private tour by the director Stacy Krammes. That tour turned out to the first step in the founding of this club. Stacy also put a fellow named John Lucia in touch with me. He and I toured the Center and the Hoover factory in 1982. A little over three months later John and I began the club. Jan. 2, 2010 will mark the 27th year of the Vacuum Cleaner Collector's Club.

By the way, Stacy Krammes's husband Don was the man who invented the Hoover Floor Washer around 1958.

Have a very Merry Christmas,

Alex Taber


Post# 87232 , Reply# 30   12/27/2009 at 00:34 (5,205 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Beautiful Machine, Jack!

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And how lucky you are that it arrived in nearly excellent condition and complete! You're right, it was a wonderful Christmas present! Congrats,
Jeff


Post# 87243 , Reply# 31   12/27/2009 at 07:51 (5,205 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Hoover Floor Washer - on of my all time favorite gadgets. I have a yellow one and a blue one. Thank you Alex for that info.

I'm writing here on a sad note with an appeal. Over on Automatic Washer.org there's a sad fellow Joe Lippard who received his blue Floor Washer with the nozzle shattered to tiny bits and this is one plastic that crazy glue will not mend.

Does anyone here have a junker floor washer for parts or just a spare nozzle, yellow or white, that you could contact Joe about? At least he has the equally hard to find sqeegee brush strips...

In my own case. my yellow floor washer has no brush strips and can not be used until I find something suitable to fit the opening. My second floor washer was a real bargain as it came with no nozzle at all but I was able to find a regular vacuum floor/wall brush nozzle in my parts bin that I adapted to fit and it works very well. So all is not lost for Joe.

I was going to post on AutoWash.org about this situation, and joined up over the weekend, but due to some glitch my password is not being accepted and we're working on it - another matter altogether.
bUt I did want to bring this Floor Washer nozzle probl;em to the attention of Vacuumland in the hopes some one somewhere can help out a fellow collector.

I, myself, could use a set of brush strips for the Floor Washer. They are very finely packed and clamped in aluminum caming so as to form a solid squeegee surface to the water on the floor. :-)

Maybe someone from AutoWasher will see this post and direct Joe to it, please?

Dave

My yellow Floor Washer with the bojack nozzle.



CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeoliandave's LINK


Post# 87245 , Reply# 32   12/27/2009 at 08:00 (5,205 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Joe, what you need for a substitute is a wall brush with all around brushes that can be trimmed flat on a belt sander. The nozzle will have to have a rear port hole at 90 degrees right angle to the floor. I used a piece of rubber radiator hose to bridge the gap between the nozzle port and the floor washer intake pipe. It works as well as the original to suck up the water leaving it slightly damp to air dry.

Good Luck and if I find any more information or even locate a suitable floor nozzle for you, you'll be hearing from me.

I adore the Hoover Floor Washer Dryer.

Dave

The no name nozzle I adapted. Note very close set brush tufts - they do not have gaps between tufts at the root. This is essential to create a tight water seal at floor level.


Post# 87246 , Reply# 33   12/27/2009 at 08:14 (5,205 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Found the original post from December 2007 that includes info on how I 'fixed' my nozzle-less Floor Washer Dryer.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeoliandave's LINK


Post# 87412 , Reply# 34   12/29/2009 at 14:19 (5,203 days old) by hooverbaby (Dalton in Furness, UK)        
Hoover Model 200

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Do you not remember that I also have one of those machines with the toggle switch Jack?...not quite as spectacular as yours I must admit. Do you think that this still has the original paintwork?

It's interesting how this machine appears to have an orange logo on the bag, whereas it seems that the later logos were red.



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