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Post# 86680   12/21/2009 at 15:41 (5,230 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        

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Hi this a rare kirby. Anyone guess why?.....



Post# 86688 , Reply# 1   12/21/2009 at 15:56 (5,229 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        

James,

I am not familiar enough with Kirbys to tell. I can't wait to be told though. Is it something pretty obvious that I can't see?

anxious....

Rick


Post# 86691 , Reply# 2   12/21/2009 at 16:02 (5,229 days old) by myvacsrock (USA)        
Cuz...

The handle is half broken? Lol, sorry

Post# 86698 , Reply# 3   12/21/2009 at 16:50 (5,229 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
umm nope not the handle

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Lol umm nope not the handle...

Its a 508 by the way it arrived today!!


Post# 86717 , Reply# 4   12/21/2009 at 18:48 (5,229 days old) by kirbyotronic ()        

Is it a Canadian made Kirby?

Alex


Post# 86730 , Reply# 5   12/21/2009 at 19:46 (5,229 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Nope

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Nope lol carry on guessing ;o)

Post# 86732 , Reply# 6   12/21/2009 at 19:54 (5,229 days old) by kirbyotronic ()        

Was it one of the first 508's made?

C'mon you're torturing me here!


Post# 86790 , Reply# 7   12/22/2009 at 01:13 (5,229 days old) by joe22 ()        

any early kirby in the uk is rare

Post# 86792 , Reply# 8   12/22/2009 at 02:31 (5,229 days old) by kirbyman89 ()        

All original parts?

Post# 86793 , Reply# 9   12/22/2009 at 02:31 (5,229 days old) by kirbyman89 ()        

all original parts?

Post# 86801 , Reply# 10   12/22/2009 at 06:51 (5,229 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

Well, I've never seen a Kirby with a Sofa attachment before. Is that it? ;P



Post# 86802 , Reply# 11   12/22/2009 at 06:56 (5,229 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

Well, I too am stumped... It appears to be either a 508 or 509 - if it was a 510, the belt lifter would have the newer, more streamlined Kirby logo like the one in my attached image; although the photo is blurry it does appear that the belt lifter has the older-style logo as is on the two boxes in your photo.

So I'm gonna guess it's a 508 which was a key transitional model from black trim to gray.



Post# 86803 , Reply# 12   12/22/2009 at 06:59 (5,229 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

oh duhh, reading back I saw you did reveal that it's a 508 - I had overlooked that (it's 5 a.m. - got up because I couldn't sleep and my brain is blurry).

Beyond that, which in and of itself is pretty rare, it's hard to imagine what else makes it rare since the photo is not very clear.

Inquiring Minds Want To Know



Post# 86805 , Reply# 13   12/22/2009 at 08:16 (5,229 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Ok!!

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Ok here it is...

Its a 230-240 volt kirby model 508. It came from Africa!!
It belonged to a Artist which she told me about but can't remember who lol.

Kirby only came in to the UK in about 1973/4
So I was very suprised to find a 230-240 volt out of the USA from back then as the 230-240 volt kirbys are only made in the texas plant in the USA.

So here is another project to reconditon lol.
Maybe in the new year.... As I'm very busy at the mo...

Hope that info is a suprise for you all....

James :o)



Post# 86827 , Reply# 14   12/22/2009 at 13:25 (5,229 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Wow!

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So Kirby's were sold in Africa!

Post# 86831 , Reply# 15   12/22/2009 at 14:26 (5,229 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
WOW!

Hey James

Was it an Ebay find???

How does it run?- it must be strange not needing a transformer for one that age lol :)

Seamus


Post# 86835 , Reply# 16   12/22/2009 at 16:17 (5,228 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

That's amazing, but I doubt it was sold in Africa. More likely it was purchased in the US and taken to Africa when the owner moved there.

Does it run? I wonder if it sounds the same as the 110-volt model.

Very amazing find!!



Post# 86848 , Reply# 17   12/22/2009 at 17:18 (5,228 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi all, I got it off the internet off a shop site not ebay.
A collector off here told me about it. He was tempted to buy it but was not sure how to go about it. plus it was expensive.
2000r plus £170 postage.

So if it was sold in the US would kirby covert it to 240volt for them on request?????

I've not pluged it in yet as the cable is badly damaged.

Oh I also found out that the later run of 505s (1946 0nwards) with the belt lifter came with the same cardboard attachment carrying case as the 508 and the same shipping box instead of the earlier style thiner box which was the same shipping box for the 3C and 4C.
So the carrying case was introduced with the 505 not 508 as I had 1st thought.

:o)James


Post# 86854 , Reply# 18   12/22/2009 at 18:12 (5,228 days old) by joe22 ()        

amazing, who would of thought it was built in my state (TEXAS)

Post# 86858 , Reply# 19   12/22/2009 at 18:34 (5,228 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
umm

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Umm I don't think it was built in texas as the texas kirby factory did not open till around 1970ish but the 230/240 volt kirbys after that came from texas.

:o)


Post# 86861 , Reply# 20   12/22/2009 at 19:00 (5,228 days old) by kc_kirby (Kansas City, MO)        

James, did I send that to you? I know I found it searching the web one day. I thought it was quite strange to be 230V and in Africa of all places. I just couldn't Imagine Kirby selling vacuums back then there. I'm glad you got it. I have a 508 myself but its not all original yet. But they seem to be a somewhat more rare models in the 500 series. I would say its probably more rare than the 505 is. The good thing is the headlight trim on mine is there and in pretty good shape. Its awaiting its day in the spa, LOL.

Chad


Post# 86862 , Reply# 21   12/22/2009 at 19:06 (5,228 days old) by kc_kirby (Kansas City, MO)        

James, did I send that to you? I know I found it searching the web one day. I thought it was quite strange to be 230V and in Africa of all places. I just couldn't Imagine Kirby selling vacuums back then there. I'm glad you got it. I have a 508 myself but its not all original yet. But they seem to be a somewhat more rare models in the 500 series. I would say its probably more rare than the 505 is. The good thing is the headlight trim on mine is there and in pretty good shape. Its awaiting its day in the spa, LOL.

Chad


Post# 86870 , Reply# 22   12/22/2009 at 19:38 (5,228 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Hi Chad

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Hi Chad. Yep its the one you told me about. took ages to arrange with the lady who owned it to sort every thing out.
I'm Glad you told me about it. I was not going to buy it but then thought I've never seen a 230volt 500 series kirby before to made some inquarys in to it. It was expensive but I thought why not lol.

It need lots of TLC!

I washed the bag today. Got lots of dirt out of it.


Hope to talk to you soon again Chad. Thanks again for telling me about it.
I've not switched it on yet as the cable/cord is very poor.

Talk soon.

James :o) xx


Post# 86904 , Reply# 23   12/23/2009 at 11:44 (5,228 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        

Well done James, I can't wait to see what it looks like after it's been polished. I was gonna say the fact that this 508 has its original bag makes it rare in and of itself. But 230 volts? All I have to say is WOW! Did it come with the original cord? I'd love to know where in Africa there was a dealership in 1948....

Post# 86908 , Reply# 24   12/23/2009 at 12:57 (5,228 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Mr. Brown!

What an amazing story! With all the handling, I'm glad it got there in one piece!!!

Congratulations.

Rick


Post# 86939 , Reply# 25   12/23/2009 at 18:50 (5,227 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Hi

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Hi Karl it comes from south Africa.
It had the original cord but it has been cut and heaverly damaged.
It has a older style plug socket that conects to the kirby so the earth wire connects to the motor houseing its self.

Thanks Rick again.
Will take more pics once I've worked on it once I have time.

:o)


Post# 86942 , Reply# 26   12/23/2009 at 19:38 (5,227 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

Is there any indication on the model/serial plate as to where it was manufactured? I wouldn't imagine Scott-Fetzer would have had a factory in Africa. My guess, as I said earlier, is that it most likely was purchased in the U.S. (or the U.K.) and taken to Africa.



Post# 87039 , Reply# 27   12/24/2009 at 17:38 (5,226 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
umm

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It was made in Cleveland Ohio USA which I knew it was.
But it must of been made for a foregion cuntry as the USA and Canada so kirby must have made a few to sell abroad.

I know they sold wireless vacuettes in the UK which was sold under a diffrent company over here brought in from Cleveland OH,

Mind you in the 80s there was a vacuum cleaner collector who was in the news paper over here. Who had what looks like Scott fetzer sanitation system with the emptor. Must find it and put it on here. Wonder if it is a s&f is 110volt or 240volt??

Remember this was way before ebay and the wide use of the internet.

I'LL also post pics of the 508 name plate.

:o)


Post# 87500 , Reply# 28   12/30/2009 at 15:21 (5,221 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Ok :o)

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Ok people I've started work on it like washed the bag.
Put a new cord on it. Found a original chain hanger and black rubber handle for it. Still need taking apart and polishing.
Just not had the time yet. Got a spare 508 headlight trim somewhere.

I've switched it on and its sounds good and strong.
Its suction is strong.

Here is a few pics of it so far:o)

Hope you like it so far:o)

James xx


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Post# 87506 , Reply# 34   12/30/2009 at 15:27 (5,221 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Will hope to post a pic once its done...Don't know when lol;o)

James:o)


Post# 87521 , Reply# 35   12/30/2009 at 17:33 (5,220 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        

Thank you for taking a close-up of the manufacturing plate, James. Interesting how it is stamped "230" in two locations. Once after the voltage, and again on the black background. It looks as if the plug might have been added on for U.K. current?

Post# 87554 , Reply# 36   12/31/2009 at 00:38 (5,220 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Yikes, id sure hate to get a shock from that thing! I bet vacuuming a wet surface with it is not a good idea.

Post# 87710 , Reply# 37   1/1/2010 at 08:32 (5,219 days old) by vaclover (Freestate, Virginia, South Africa)        
Nice

Helo.i really like the collections page on this site.i dont know if i may say website names on here but there was a similer kirby listed on a site www.ic.co.za... i dont know if its this one you bought!im a vacuum cleaner freak!!i have 5 vacuums dont know if i can call it vintage,but 4 of them are older than me!i like that vintage upright Eurekas and the Electro Hygienes but i never see such old vacuums in south africa!one of you guys had a Bison vacuum on your collection pages i cant seem to find any information on them on the internet.are they still made and sold?thanx u guys are great!and your vacuums are beautifull!

Post# 87735 , Reply# 38   1/1/2010 at 11:19 (5,219 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        

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Hi Ruan, Did know there was a vacuum cleaners. What vacs u got?
I can't remember where I got it from. some 1 told me about it so I asked if they would sell it to me in the UK.

So what vacuums have u got? have you seen any other old kirbys in south Africa?

James


Post# 87772 , Reply# 39   1/1/2010 at 14:13 (5,219 days old) by vaclover (Freestate, Virginia, South Africa)        

Hi james.thats the oldest kirby i have ever seen in South-Africa.i Have a Electrolux model Z170, then ive got a Electrolux Model Z302,an Hoover model u4006 and an premiere Products Mini,Made in Cheltenham England.a Kirby Legend II but thats a 1989 or 90 Model.then i have a Hoover Shampoo Polisher.it seems to me that South-Africa only got electric vacuum cleaners in the late 60's?heres an antique dealer where i once saw a Baby daizy vacuum cleaner.it has bellows with a long handle to operate the bellows and then the extension pipes in front.but they didnt want to sell it.Sorry for talking about other vacuums on this topic but the collections on this site is fascinating.

Post# 87773 , Reply# 40   1/1/2010 at 14:28 (5,219 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Its ok mr. U got any pics of your collection or you?
How long you been collecting vacs for?

James


Post# 87774 , Reply# 41   1/1/2010 at 14:59 (5,219 days old) by vaclover (Freestate, Virginia, South Africa)        

Yes i do have pics of me and my Collection,im 22 Years old now and ive got my first vacuum Cleaner (the z302) When i was 12 years old.the 302 and the 170 was my grandmothers, the 302 burnt out but i had the field coils rewound.im always on the lookout for other vacuum cleaners on ebay,but i dont know what the costs will be to import it to South-Africa.i almost forgot i also have a Columbus B11 floor polisher:)

Ruan


Post# 87855 , Reply# 42   1/2/2010 at 11:01 (5,218 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin))        
Vaclover (Ruan), welcome...

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I posted a thread on the off-topic... [[see link below]]


...it may have just been missed by others?!?!?!

Anyway, again welcome.

hagd all

Bill


CLICK HERE TO GO TO a007kirbyman's LINK


Post# 87874 , Reply# 43   1/2/2010 at 15:14 (5,218 days old) by vaclover (Freestate, Virginia, South Africa)        
Thank you

for the warm welcome!This site and the guys on this site is just great!!
Ruan



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