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Post# 86267   12/17/2009 at 08:25 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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I thought it was about time I posted some pics of new additions to the collection .....

First off, a rare cleaner in the UK - the AEG Vampyr. I think this featured in an earlier thread when it appeared on ebay, but here it is again. Although it looked a little scruffy it is actually in quite good condition, in the pictures it has only had a quick wash up, no Autosol treatment so far ...


Post# 86268 , Reply# 1   12/17/2009 at 08:29 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Under the hood ...

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The silver lever at the front releases the top into the bag chamber .... When I got the cleaner this area plus teh bag were completely SATURATED, so much so that the corner of the box was wet too. The AEG disposable bag inside the cloth bag just had to be hurled - it was chock full in any case. Fortunatly this seems to have been relativly short term wetting as the cloth bag was fine once washed and allowed to dry.

Post# 86269 , Reply# 2   12/17/2009 at 08:35 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
With the bag out

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The bag takes up most of the space in the base, with a small motor near the front to power the brushroll, belt driven. The main motor and fan are in the "upright" part - the air being extracted from the bag chamber through the two square holes at the back - I did say it was a quick clean up

Post# 86270 , Reply# 3   12/17/2009 at 08:40 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
The bag

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There is a fairly small opening from the brushroll into the bag, I think those could easily get blocked. By the way, I "cobbled" a disposable bag from a Hoover bag, the aeg one had a cardboard cover with went over a piece of grey pipe on the other side of the cover - rather like a smaller version of teh bag used on Lux 330/345 etc. The cloth bag clips into place on the grey plastic piece.

Post# 86271 , Reply# 4   12/17/2009 at 08:47 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Switches

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There are two settings - Normal and Intensive. It did not seem to make much difference to me in terms of noise level, I did not have a chance to see if Intensive made the brushroll rotate faster. Its not a particularly quiet machine either, unless it was actually running full time on intensive rather than normal

Post# 86273 , Reply# 5   12/17/2009 at 08:49 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Brushroll

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I have not been able to age this machine, but teh lack of side suction vents tells me early 1970s if not late 1960s. The cover plate just clips into place

Post# 86274 , Reply# 6   12/17/2009 at 08:54 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Brushroll 2

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The brushroll is rather like that used on the Lux 152/160/170 with a full width brush on one side (see previous pic) and a beater bar on the other ....

Post# 86275 , Reply# 7   12/17/2009 at 08:55 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Brushroll 3

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With the coverplate off you can see both sides , plus the driving belt

Post# 86276 , Reply# 8   12/17/2009 at 08:57 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Height selector

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A little flap drops down on the side to reveal the height selector, three positins are demonstrated, but it seems to be pretty much variable between the highest and lowest positions

Post# 86277 , Reply# 9   12/17/2009 at 08:59 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Size matters

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In the earlier thread someone commented about th eoverall size of the machine, and here it is ceside a Concept 1 for "footprint" comparision. Actually it would also be interesting to compare it to the Hoover Turbo master which I thought was quite large as well

Post# 86278 , Reply# 10   12/17/2009 at 09:04 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Two inches makes a difference

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As you can see. Overall it is a very good cleaner, I always like to hear the sound of a brushroll beating and sweeping, with strong suction. It is very large though so not for the smaller home and of course is hopeless under low furniture. I have to contact the vendor about the hose etc. which was missing (it has a pan connector) - the brushroll does not rotate when the handle is in the upright position

Post# 86279 , Reply# 11   12/17/2009 at 09:05 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Speaking of Concept 1s

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I got this a couple of months ago ....

Post# 86280 , Reply# 12   12/17/2009 at 09:07 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Sideways on

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Nice trim profile, athough I have to say I think the DAM/Convertable/Dynamatic was a more elegant solition. The cord winder does work too

Post# 86281 , Reply# 13   12/17/2009 at 09:10 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Tools attached

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After their pioneering work on the DAM it amazes me that they went back to a concept (pardon the pun) that they abandoned in the 1920s - namely the pan converter

Post# 86282 , Reply# 14   12/17/2009 at 09:11 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Suction control

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I dont think any of the UK cleaners with twist lock had this sort of suction control - sorry the pic is a bit fuzzy

Post# 86284 , Reply# 15   12/17/2009 at 09:13 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Box

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The tool box could be converted to a storage caddy, as mine was. Thankfully they kept the lid - there are perforations along the back to remove it

Post# 86285 , Reply# 16   12/17/2009 at 09:20 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Another Hoover ...

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In need of a great deal more TLC unfortunatly. My other 419 has a ribbed flex, so this one may be a replacement, and for the amount of insulating tape on it the previous owners must have been quite hard on it. The hose is a replacement, although the connector (rather like Lux 30/55/62/65/90) is correct - 419s had a much longer hose, similar in length to a Senior (Convertable) this is more like a Junior hose. Still its nice to have one in this colour (the flash makes it look rather lighter than it really is. Now I just nead a red one and pale green to complete the set :) The motor probably needs some work for the amount of "grumbling" that goes on once it is switched off although its fine when switched on. I must check the serial number, but this machine is about 40 years old.

Post# 86286 , Reply# 17   12/17/2009 at 09:24 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
And finally

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A different twist on the AEG - i.e a powered brushroll with a seperate "sucking unit" - a Vorwerk. This also works well, with a great pivot action on the floor nozzle. It also works quite well on hard floors - although I have no other tools for it. This one was quite cheap £10 and easily collectable for me, so it made sense to add it to the collecton. Well I thought it made sense LOLOLOLOL

Post# 86287 , Reply# 18   12/17/2009 at 09:29 (5,215 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Rear View

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The bag does not have a zip! That long green plastic "rod" is in fact a slider to hold the edges of the bag together. There is a wire support to hold teh bag shape and a small fabric tab to hold it in place. The was also a small rubber valve arrangement over the bag entry to stop teh dust falling back out through teh nmachine when it was switched off. The yellow lever on the head appears to be the height selector

Post# 86288 , Reply# 19   12/17/2009 at 10:42 (5,215 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        

"It amazes me that they went back to a concept (pardon the pun) that they abandoned in the 1920s - namely the pan converter"

That is a beautiful Concept 1, but I must say myself I prefer the Dial-A-Matic. While they do groom the carpet very well, Hoover definitely took "two steps backward" when they sold the design for the DAM to Panasonic and went back to a "dirty air" design. They are definitely noisier than their predecessor. Funny how the U.K. plug sticks out from the housing even when fully retracted. I would have loved to see a Dial-A-Matic II!


Post# 86289 , Reply# 20   12/17/2009 at 10:50 (5,215 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Hey Al,

I've had these pics since your visit, but I didn't want to post them here until you'd had the chance to post your own.

What a treasure that Concept One is! The nicest one I've seen - complete and fully working!


Post# 86290 , Reply# 21   12/17/2009 at 10:55 (5,215 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

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Post# 86298 , Reply# 22   12/17/2009 at 12:02 (5,215 days old) by joe22 ()        
The yellow lever on the head

the yellow lever on the vorwerk is to adjust the brush for wear.

the hoover is sweet, but the vampyr WOW, just on its name alone.

awesome finds


Post# 86299 , Reply# 23   12/17/2009 at 12:50 (5,215 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
That AEG is HUGE

Hi Al.

Really cant get my head around that AEG's size.

A real brute of a cleaner in a very discreet bright orange colour! Blimey.
Very pleased that it has found a good home.

Your Concept One is lovely too.
Being cheeky, but could you take and post a piccy of the machines underneath. Basically so that me and Rob can get an idea as to just what, barring the obvious, is missing from our machine (shown below).

Also, the button to activate the powder drive is missing and it would be useful to know what it looked like. Wonder if we could rig something up? Time to raid the kitchen cupboards!

Cheers
paul


Post# 86300 , Reply# 24   12/17/2009 at 12:52 (5,215 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

an arty shot...

Post# 86320 , Reply# 25   12/17/2009 at 18:17 (5,215 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

The AEG's spiritual successor? Even follows a similar colour-scheme!

Post# 86363 , Reply# 26   12/18/2009 at 02:21 (5,214 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
There is nothing new in the world

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That is an interesting thought Jack, I must say that had not occured to me, but I can see where you are coming from. However I wonder if there is not another point of commonality. One of the intensity's selling points was its ability to fold down into a compact unit. Although it is not immediatly obvious, the handle is very easily removed from the Vampyr too. If you look back at the picture under "Switches" you can see the connection point of the handle to the main body, it is just a very simple rotation to screw the handle in place - the white bit. I thought it was just a styling feature, but perhaps the ridges are there to make it easier to grip? So perhaps it too was designed to be a compact unit - are there any European members who remember this cleaner and perhaps the propotional literature which went with it?
Al


Post# 86368 , Reply# 27   12/18/2009 at 05:32 (5,214 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
More on Intensity

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Jack
Do you still have that cleaner? If so, could you measure its "footprint" if possible please and I will measure the Vampyr to compare
Thanks
Al


Post# 86369 , Reply# 28   12/18/2009 at 05:45 (5,214 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Hi Al, I do still have the Intensity; I've only used it a handful of times, though. It's boxed up ready to be sold/rehomed. I'll dig it out this weekend and get back to you :)

Post# 86372 , Reply# 29   12/18/2009 at 06:34 (5,214 days old) by 74simon ()        
Lovely!

Nice finds Al, that Power Drive looks very well looked after! The AEG is quite an interesting variation on the CFA upright theme, is it a UK market machine?

Hope the Harlequin buffs up nice, I thought they all had bag-full indicators! That flex though, I reckon it would take a lot of effort to damage one on a cylinder that badly...


Post# 86374 , Reply# 30   12/18/2009 at 06:55 (5,214 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Did someone say "Spell Checker"

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It would have been useful for me to be able promotional properly!

Thanks Jack, when we saw the intensity it did not seem to be to be as big (or clumsy looking) as the AEG but I wondered what effect the different styling would have.

Si,
The Concept 1 is in nice order but it was not cheap either, it is the second most expensive cleaner in my collection, the most expesnive being the German Dial A Matic I have. Only the later 429 model had the bag full indicator the 419 didn't. Hopefully with a bit of work with Autosol it will buff up nicely.

Actually I think there may be yet another variation in colour. Initially for 419 there was dark blue, red and an olive green colour. I think the olive green was changed for a lighter green and a tartan version added. The 429 was similar but I think they were all tartan, had a two peg hose fitting rather than push in, flip over carpet/floor nozzle, and a plastic bag for attachements rather than the metal caddy
Al


Post# 86401 , Reply# 31   12/18/2009 at 14:04 (5,214 days old) by joe22 ()        
Intensity

too bad is did not have tools like the westy converto vac, that would have made it more versatile.

i seem to remember a wards vac that had the bag set up like the vamp. in an old catalog ???

j



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