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Post# 82509   10/18/2009 at 02:49 (5,302 days old) by electroluxkirby ()        

What is the top of this attachment used for?

Post# 82510 , Reply# 1   10/18/2009 at 03:50 (5,302 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Todays Historty lesson--Electrolux Rug Tool

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Calling Charles Richard Lester!

Charles, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the answer is that the top of this tool is what became known as the "Gleaner" in later models.
For those of you who don't know the early Electrolux models XXX (30), XX (20), LX (60), LXI (61), and E. The "Gleaner" combed the carpet removing thread, dog/cat fur, and so on. It was also used on area rugs. On the XXX and so on there was a bar outfitted with teeth on the underside of the tool. A leaver was moved to rotate it and the smooth surface meant the gleaner was in "off" position. The rug nozzle shown here is from the model XI (11), XII (12), or the early model XXX.

Again, if I'm wrong, please correct me charles.

Alex Taber.


Post# 82516 , Reply# 2   10/18/2009 at 08:49 (5,301 days old) by electroluxkirby ()        

I will have to try this out on my area rug in the laundry room.

Thanks for the info.



Post# 82518 , Reply# 3   10/18/2009 at 10:08 (5,301 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        

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I thought the "Gleaner" was on the bottom, and the switch for it was on top, at least that it how it is on my XXX. I thought that was the "Narrow Space Cleaner" but I could be wrong

Post# 82528 , Reply# 4   10/18/2009 at 12:40 (5,301 days old) by joe22 ()        

gleaner moved from top suction opening to the bottom, when ???
the top concentrated suction for stubborn things like threads, hair, etc.

narrow space cleaner is the name lux uses for a *crevice tool*


Post# 82545 , Reply# 5   10/18/2009 at 16:55 (5,301 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
History lesson for today-- Electrolux tools

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The earliest patent file I know of using some sort of "Gleaner" is that of Gustaf E. Lofgren. Patent # 2,027,543. Filed Oct. 7, 1933 and patented Jan. 14, 1936. During this time the bar thingy at the bottom of the rug tool was patented by George. H. Cranmer. Patent #2,025,442. Date filed Jan. 22 1935 with the patent issued Dec. 24, 1935. Both would be for the Electrolux model XII (12).

Gusaf E. Lofgren was an electrolux fixture from the time the factory opened in Old Greenwich, Connecticut in 1933. His job was design and research, meaning that most of the patents for attachments, tools other devices like the ejection system were his. This means that the models XXX, XX and others were his. But not the famous model LX, that was the design of Leon P. Borkoski, patent filed May 4, 1951 and issued Oct. 6 1953. There were at least 5 designs for the rug tool you have shown. There were several for the model XXX and at least 2 for the LX.
For over 30 years Gustaf E. Lofgren and his crew turned out things like the Cord winder, B8 polisher, turbo polisher, (1947) and the Power Nozzle.

Most of my information is from my own patent research, while other information comes from the book "ELECTROLUX CORPORATION---
the first forty years." Lofgren was the Vice Predident of marketing at the time that book was written in 1964.

Alex Taber


Post# 82548 , Reply# 6   10/18/2009 at 17:10 (5,301 days old) by electroluxkirby ()        

Can the cloth bags for the Model XXX be washed?

Post# 82549 , Reply# 7   10/18/2009 at 17:58 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Doug Smith is much more knowledgeable about Electrolux Canada than I but the following 4 pictures show the double faced flip-over nozzles for both Canada and the USA.

First up, the c-1932-38 nozzle that came with the Canadian model XII.


Post# 82550 , Reply# 8   10/18/2009 at 18:03 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Next, three versions of the flip-over nozzle after 1938 with a gleaner comb in the smaller narrow slot. The bottom nozzle is the earliest c-1939 Canada.

Post# 82554 , Reply# 9   10/18/2009 at 18:53 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Tops with gleaner teeth. |The 1939 one has a plate that flips over the gleaner rod that has the teeth machined on one side.

The upper two have fixed gleaner combs.


Post# 82555 , Reply# 10   10/18/2009 at 18:59 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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and the bottoms.

Similar yet distinctly different variations.

Now, in the next generation of Electrolux flip-over tools most have a gleaner combed machine cut rod at the edge of the wide nozzle that can be rotated on/off. There is a variation gleaner type rod that is helical knurled all around and can not be 'turned off' - it simply has a surface texture that grabs those pesky threads.


Post# 82568 , Reply# 11   10/18/2009 at 22:44 (5,301 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Later 30 carpet nozzles

Dave
It seems that someone along the way had told me that the
later model XXX carpet nozzles had a weigh in the right
side when facing the nozzle from behind. Being that when
you lifted it from the carpet to carry or to flip it to
the top. The nozzle usually would hang or drop to the right.
Then when you touched the right side of it on the carpet. It
turned upside down or the top was on the carept ? Maybe I dreamed that one up ! LOL !
Let me know if I have completely lost it !
Doug, where are you ??
Norm


Post# 82570 , Reply# 12   10/18/2009 at 23:15 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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It's true, Norm. The 1932 nozzle does not have a weight but the other three all have a pig iron slug weight (most often rusted) in a form fitting cast shape clamped in place when the halves are screwbolted together, as does the GE Cycolac plastic flip-over floor & rug tool for the early Swiveltops and Roll-Easy. It does take a short practice session with wrist action but once mastered it's done with a supreme casual flippancy. This is one improvement they latched on to early as it is not easy to flip over an un-weighted nozzle without involving feet or brute floor banging force. :-)

Dave


Post# 82571 , Reply# 13   10/18/2009 at 23:41 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The red, green and beige painted cast aluminum Canadian Electrolux nozzles for the 80 and AP series is also weighted on one side. American Luxs discontinued this flip-over style nozzle with the LXi and with the 1954 Model E, introduced the Combination Tool that required removing the inlet box from the nozzle and flipping that over...

CanLux soldiered on with the much more convenient flipover nozzle well into the mid 1980s.

Series 83-86-88 tilted under it`s own weight...


Post# 82573 , Reply# 14   10/18/2009 at 23:58 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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machine cut gleaner rod.

Post# 82574 , Reply# 15   10/19/2009 at 00:21 (5,301 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The 1982-86 Canadian Electrolux model E2000 Special came with the flip-over tool and appears to be the last one that did.

Picture from Doug`s site.


Post# 82575 , Reply# 16   10/19/2009 at 00:54 (5,301 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

Actually the LXI still had a flip-over rug nozzle, but it was of a slightly different design from the earlier LX and XXX nozzle with turquoise plastic insets and a smaller 'gleaner' surface on the top.

The first combination floor/rug tool and the combination dusting brush/upholstery nozzle were introduced on the Model E. The ads trumpeted, "Clean your entire house with just two attachments!"

Here's a trivia question: Who knows what the TUFTOR was? (Alex Tabor, shhhh!)



Post# 82576 , Reply# 17   10/19/2009 at 01:10 (5,301 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        
Comparison of the XXX/LX & LXI Rug Nozzles

See photos.

As usual with Electrolux, several odd anomalies swirl around these attachments. For instance, I have an LXI-style rug nozzle that came with an XXX, and the plastic bits are gray instead of turquoise! Also, I have an LXI that came with an LX-style rug tool, and have seen a few LXs with LXI-style rug tools.

While I believe the LXI was when the more-plastic version was officially rolled out, it surely happened on a gradual basis as did all over changes and enhancements.

But that still doesn't explain that darn XXX with the gray LXI rug nozzle!





















Note -- both versions of the rug tool are the same length and width and indeed are identical on the bottom. In some of these photos one looks larger than the other but that's just due to the perspective of the photo.



Post# 82577 , Reply# 18   10/19/2009 at 01:14 (5,301 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

Here's a photo showing the evolution of all the Electrolux floor tools. I've posted it here before, but since it's topical to this thread I'll post it again.



Post# 82590 , Reply# 19   10/19/2009 at 10:36 (5,300 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Of course, I meant to write `discontinued this flip-over style nozzle AFTER the LXi`.

Thanks Charles for filling in the gaps - I was mainly making the point that Canada Electrolux continued the flip-over nozzle for decades after USA Lux abandoned it.

I`m in Sarnia with Pete right now but when I get home I`ll be checking that I have the correct nozzles with the appropriate models. Thanks for the panoramic photo with labels - I`ll be printing that reference for sure.

Dave

Ah yes, the illusive Tuftor...




Post# 82591 , Reply# 20   10/19/2009 at 10:39 (5,300 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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1952 LX manual pages 10-11

Post# 82592 , Reply# 21   10/19/2009 at 10:40 (5,300 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Thank you Charles Richard!

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This tells it better than I ever could.

Alex Taber.


Post# 82594 , Reply# 22   10/19/2009 at 10:52 (5,300 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Married...With Electrolux

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Al Bundy was trying to vacuum a pie plate out from under their sofa with a Model LX on one episode. He just had the hose on it.

Lucky me, I have two of those beautiful rug tools!


Post# 82599 , Reply# 23   10/19/2009 at 12:35 (5,300 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Great prctures of the owners manual for the Electrolux LX

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Now can post the ejection system in action?

Alex Taber


Post# 82624 , Reply# 24   10/19/2009 at 18:01 (5,300 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Great idea, Alex. Something I've been meaning to do is YouTube the LX ejecting. On my list of things to do this week...

Stumbled across this late all plastic with stainless steel trim bits Combination nozzle at Pete's. It has the non-rotating knurled gleaner rod.


Post# 82625 , Reply# 25   10/19/2009 at 18:02 (5,300 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Closeup of the gnarly knurled gleaner rod.

Post# 82633 , Reply# 26   10/19/2009 at 18:58 (5,300 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
As they say a pictire is worth a 100 words, or something lik

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Thank you Charles Richard and Dave for those great pictures of the Electrolux rug tools. Reminds me of the ones that are now boxed up and in storage. With the exception of the two Model V tools and the plastic war issue XXX tool, I have every one of those. Check my pictures and my "Electrolux Wall Of Fame" to see these.

Anybody who has the "Companion" (ride on too holder) for the XXX and LX, please post pictures for others to see. And finally if any of you have the booklet for the Model LX, how about letting us see that too.

Thanks,
Alex Taber


Post# 82637 , Reply# 27   10/19/2009 at 19:32 (5,300 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

I agree it would be nice to have the LX brochure online. It's surely among the most beautiful and lavish vacuum cleaner instruction manuals ever produced, with full-color watercolor images on every page. But I just don't have the time to do it.



Post# 82651 , Reply# 28   10/19/2009 at 21:03 (5,300 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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I posted the three LX manual versions in threads a long while back and always meant to upload all my manual scans to the manuals tab on the homepage. Another winter project on the to-do list...

Post# 82658 , Reply# 29   10/20/2009 at 00:14 (5,300 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Someone does already have the Ejection System in action, posted on YouTube,, its about 10 seconds long,,,sorry i dont know how to post a link here, but if you go to YouTube, and type in "Electrolux 60 Ejection" , it should come up. Someone named "johnnyb59c" is who posted it on Jan.8,2008.

Post# 82659 , Reply# 30   10/20/2009 at 00:26 (5,300 days old) by em-tor64 ()        

My XXX with attachment carrier.....

Post# 82660 , Reply# 31   10/20/2009 at 00:27 (5,300 days old) by em-tor64 ()        

One more.......

Post# 82666 , Reply# 32   10/20/2009 at 09:22 (5,299 days old) by luxg ()        

Michael, that is a beautiful XXX!!! The bumper on the rug nozzle looks perfect!!

Post# 82669 , Reply# 33   10/20/2009 at 09:34 (5,299 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
The Canadian Tool Saddle

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Electrolux called it The Kompanion and it was painted brown to match the Z57. The spring loops are thicker nickle-plated steel stock than the American plain tempered steel loops.



Post# 82671 , Reply# 34   10/20/2009 at 09:47 (5,299 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The Companion clips to the bag door latch fittings on the 57. No clip for the crevicetool.

It was an available option in 1953 so you could have gotten one for your earlier 55 or 30. Kinda scarce and I have only the one. My latest Z57 above from the Stratford Lady last week has the later all chrome flip-down cordwinder.

I've included a few additional tools from the 1939-50 Model 30 and 50 series Loafs. The correct woven hose is a brown/beige hose that matches the 'tweed' pattern leatherette. Until I find one I pair up the red Z8X hose rather than the two-tone gray common to the 30 & 50.

Note on suction regulators...I don't think the ladies used or liked it much. Every CanLux hose I've found invariably has the valve ring Scotch, Electrical or Masking taped in place and of course I clean it up to restore function.


Post# 82672 , Reply# 35   10/20/2009 at 09:54 (5,299 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Naked de-tooled Kompanion.

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Naturally, the Kompanion fits only a Canadian Loaf and I see now that it will only attach to the 50 series side trim, not a 30 series.

Post# 82683 , Reply# 36   10/20/2009 at 13:58 (5,299 days old) by electrolux~137 ()        

Michael, I second the motion -- that's a gorgeous XXX! And you have the original hose. WOW!!

Dave, nice Z57s. I have the lovely maroon and blue Z55 with wheel set and cord winder but don't have the "Kompanion" for it.



Post# 82727 , Reply# 37   10/21/2009 at 01:02 (5,299 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Wonderful pictures Dave

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Nice to see the word kompanion etched into the tool holder. Thank you for posting them.

To the member who posted the youtube Model LX ejection process, sorry, I couldn't find it. several nice clips including my friend Charles Richard, but no Electrolux LX and no ejection thingy either.

Are there any Electrolux collectors out there who were salesmen around the time that model was sold. Love to talk to any old timer about the home demo of that model.

Alex Taber



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