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Post# 78984   8/21/2009 at 09:39 (5,354 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

Im trying to decide on a new daily vacuum im choosing from either a bissell power force,a dirt devil feather light,a eureka light speed or a hoover tempo which one has better filtration,better tools and cleans carpet better im sure some one out there has tried them all

Post# 78989 , Reply# 1   8/21/2009 at 10:51 (5,354 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Scott - get the Hoover Tempo Widepath Model U5140-900....

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It is one of the top rated uprights in the latest Consumer Reports tests, with excellent deep carpet cleaning and excellent filtration and excellent pet hair removal. It's got a nice 25 foot long cord and weighs only 16 lbs.

Out of over 30 uprights tested, this simple upright is ranked number 4. The only ones rating better than this model were the Kenmore Progressive Bagged upright, the Hoover bagged Platinum and the Hoover Windtunnel non-self-propelled. The list price for the Hoover Tempo Widepath is $80. It is useless for using above the floor tools, as the hose it far too short. But for $80, you have enough money left to buy a suction-only Miele or a basic air-only Kenmore canister with all the tools you need!

Post# 78990 , Reply# 2   8/21/2009 at 10:54 (5,354 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Small correction.....

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The Hoover Anniversary Windtunnel that is rated better by CR than the Tempo is indeed the self-propelled version.

Post# 78992 , Reply# 3   8/21/2009 at 11:13 (5,354 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

What about the white tempo?

Post# 79002 , Reply# 4   8/21/2009 at 11:42 (5,354 days old) by riccarlover ()        
Psh...

 Consumer Reports...
What a joke!!!
Let us collectors rate the vacs!!!
:D
Clayton

Post# 79004 , Reply# 5   8/21/2009 at 12:09 (5,354 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        

I wholeheartedly agree. When people would ask me "What does Consumer Reports say about the Oreck?" My retort was "If Consumer Reports told you to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it?" ;-) I really think CR is for the masses of "sheeple" who can't make an informed decision on their own.
Seriously, though, all of the above listed vacs are kind of "throwaways." Wouldn't you rather something a little more durable?

Post# 79006 , Reply# 6   8/21/2009 at 12:18 (5,354 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        
HELO!

 Im a vacuum colector if one of those throw aways break I can fix it

Post# 79011 , Reply# 7   8/21/2009 at 13:27 (5,354 days old) by joe22 ()        

get a kirby, lolol

Post# 79013 , Reply# 8   8/21/2009 at 13:34 (5,354 days old) by gsohoover (Reidsville, NC)        

Get more of a work horse like kirby or royal.Thats is what I would recommend.

Post# 79015 , Reply# 9   8/21/2009 at 13:52 (5,354 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

May I remind every one that im 12 years old and there for have no income Im going to have to do alot of chores just to save up for a hoover tempo let alone a kirby or royal

Post# 79023 , Reply# 10   8/21/2009 at 14:20 (5,354 days old) by riccarlover ()        
People, people...

 Plastic vacs are NOT a hell-sent as you make them sound. Yes, they're not a nice Kirby or whatever fancy machine you like but they have their place. I have found that if a plastic machine is properly cared for it can last. Some collectors (such as Scott) cannot afford a fancey machine and might not have avavlibitiy to a thrift store, etc...
Clayton

Post# 79028 , Reply# 11   8/21/2009 at 14:24 (5,354 days old) by myvacsrock (USA)        
I have..

 A Bissel PowerForce someone can buy if they want. It has been used like 2 times and put back in the box. It will come with a pack of bags and a new belt. Make an offer, and more than likely i will accept. Send me an email

Kyle

P.S. Scott, i use a Windtunnel 'Lite' as my daily driver, which is no more than a Hoover tempo with a windtunnel sticker on it, and it runs beautifully. You cannot go wrong with a Tempo.

Post# 79032 , Reply# 12   8/21/2009 at 15:05 (5,354 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        

"I have found that if a plastic machine is properly cared for it can last." Not to play devil's advocate, but if this is true, then why are there virtually NO early Dirt Devil cleaners, Regina Housekeepers, Bissells, etc? They are designed in such a way that dirt clogs the air intake and bearings thereby seizing the motor in a relatively short time. Somebody just posted a recent thread about dirt getting into the bearings on their Eureka. Nobody ever bothers replacing the filters on a bagless vacuum, why incur the expense when the whole principle of a bagless is to save money on bags? It's really a shame what has happened to the vacuum cleaner industry over the last 20-25 years. Why not just look for a Kirby or Royal in a garage sale? I've seen Sanitronic VII's and Dual Sanitronic 50's for like $20.00. Even a Hoover Convertible would be a better choice.

Post# 79033 , Reply# 13   8/21/2009 at 15:10 (5,354 days old) by myvacsrock (USA)        
Yes Karl

 Gonna have to side with you on this one too. Hoover Convertibles are great machines.

Scott, maybe you can find one at a thrift store, refurbed at a vac shop or maybe even a collector will sell you one cheap.

If you do want a cheap one email me, i have a few you can choose from.

Kyle

Post# 79048 , Reply# 14   8/21/2009 at 18:02 (5,354 days old) by xraytech ()        

Scott,

Of the vacuums you have listed I would chose the Hoover Tempo, it seems to perform better and feel a little more durable than the others.
But, I must say my top pick for a new store brand vacuum would be the Kenmore progressive bagged upright that retails for $149, and can be cheaper when they have sales. It is a fairly quiet vac, with a long stretch hose with good tool suction, twwo speed switch, clutch to shut off brushroll, dirt sensor, cloth-like bags, good filtration, turbo brush, 30 ft. cord, and they can handle a good deal of abuse(The restaurant I worked at in school had two of them and after 6 yrs of abuse they still worked good.)You can also check for discounted returns at Sears too, I got mine last year as a return still in box for $68.

Post# 79052 , Reply# 15   8/21/2009 at 18:20 (5,354 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
I did indeed buy a Hoover Blue Tempo for my mom.....

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when she was renting an apartment in Florida. I got it for $80 plus tax at Best Buy in Aventura. It turned out to be an excellent little carpet cleaner, with really great filtration. If you are going to spend less than $100 on an upright vac, this is the one to get. The "Y" bags are easy to find everywhere, and it really did a great job of deep cleaning. It even has a headlight!

I have always believed in the benefit of having two cleaners - one for carpets and another for everything else. The combo machines are just too bulky and complicated and over-designed. With a Hoover Tempo you have money left over for a decent canister vac. Just my two amps worth!

Post# 79055 , Reply# 16   8/21/2009 at 18:48 (5,354 days old) by gsohoover (Reidsville, NC)        

I am only 13 and it is hard to get the machines you want! That is why I use some of my older vacs.

Post# 79079 , Reply# 17   8/21/2009 at 22:10 (5,354 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Stay with the Hoover Tempo

 I have had a windtunnel for at least 10 years now. It works very well and have recommended the Tempo many times to friends who are tired of the "bagless" deals. Want a good
basic vac and can't or don't want to pay much more or less then $100. Later on if you buy an extra hose lenght and a
tubo nozzle for steps or furniture (expecially is you have
pets). You will like it even more as you will have one machine for all dusting and carpet cleaning. I know two families that have used these Hoovers
8/9yeas and used hard. they are still doing a good job !
Norm

Post# 79090 , Reply# 18   8/22/2009 at 02:15 (5,354 days old) by joe22 ()        

go to garage sales, or a thrift store. you can find an omega or a classic lll cheap. clean it up, adjust the brushroll, new belt, and you have a GREAT daily drive.

my omega is from a local thrift store, 15 dollers last year.

Post# 79158 , Reply# 19   8/23/2009 at 21:00 (5,352 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        

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I have heard the Eureka SmartVacs are farely good, and in my opinion, any Hoover Windtunnel bagged Temp/Windtunnel is a GREAT vacuum. They have amazing suction for the price. Great vacuum

Post# 79162 , Reply# 20   8/23/2009 at 21:50 (5,352 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I have the white Hoover Tempo and it's a great vacuum. The bags fill up qucikly!

Post# 79165 , Reply# 21   8/23/2009 at 22:01 (5,352 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        
Hoover Tempo

 I'm sure it is a great vacuum, but IMHO 12 amps is just waaaay too much current for a vacuum to draw. I know it's the new industry standard, but with the way things are going as far as being more environmentally friendly, maybe it should be reduced to 7 or 8 amps - and even that is alot. Now that the "cash for clunkers" program is ending for cars, perhaps the goverment should offer a "bagless buyback program" and offer an incentive on your old "gas guzzler" vacuum towards the purchase of a more energy-efficient model like say a Kirby or an Oreck.

Post# 79203 , Reply# 22   8/24/2009 at 11:43 (5,351 days old) by kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
Watch your thrift stores

 I saw a Eureka Boss with VGII last Saturday at the DAV by the base. This is one of our favorite thrift stores as it is so close to the base, many of the guy/gals moving out have to dump their excess articles before they can move.

We have found bran new sheet sets for 99 cents. Picture frames for $1. The Eureka was $26.99, but looked and sounded good. I waivered a few times, but passed it by, but I am sure if you watch your area on a regular basis you could get some finds. You can even ask some of the counter people to give you a call when they get certain items in. Most of the time they will do favors for regulars.


Post# 79216 , Reply# 23   8/24/2009 at 18:48 (5,351 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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Hey! That's cool idea Ohio_Tuec! Also, the 12 amp vacuums are really loud too.

Post# 79235 , Reply# 24   8/25/2009 at 03:11 (5,351 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        
12 Amp motors

 Really loud and designed to burn up fairly quickly. It's really sad that in 80 years we go from the pleasant sound of a Hoover 575 getting up to speed vs. the garbage we have nowadays.

Post# 79237 , Reply# 25   8/25/2009 at 03:46 (5,351 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

The 12A motors came about when vac makers went to clean air systems and on board hoses and attachments-the big motor was need to pick up the debris from the floor thru that long funky onboard hose before getting to the bag.And how come I see MORE clogged 12A clean air vacuums than 7a or lower direct air ones?The direct ones have a simpler-shorter air path to the bag.however I have encountered a few clogged Orecks at yard sales-any I have bought were clogged-the bag fill tube was PACKED with stuff-lets see-paper wads,paper clips,long hair,and coins.I think that user need a Parking lot sweeper rather than a vacuum cleaner.also the yard sale Orecks had busted fan cases.Ended up trading them to vac Hospital for parts.Oreck should shorten the airpath.-or make the fill tube larger bore.And make the cleaner with a sheet steel fancase and cast fan-wouldn't make the machine that much heavier-but more durable-yes us Vacuumland users are more careful-but most other folks treat their vacuums like parking lot vacuums.
I found my Kirbys,Royals,Koblentz and Sanitaires don't clog.Yes I like the sound of those older motors and vacuums better.And whats with newer commercial Orecks-their motors sound like a tortured banshee!
I don't understand this area-not many thrift stores here except "swap" type places-and these have mostly large appliances and furniture.The pawn shops here have mostly beat up computers and beat up plastivacs.

Post# 79336 , Reply# 26   8/26/2009 at 18:49 (5,349 days old) by kirbyman89 ()        

Get a Kirby like Joe22 told ya!! You won't be sorry if you can find a good one

Post# 79343 , Reply# 27   8/26/2009 at 21:05 (5,349 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        
Oreck improvements

 "Oreck should shorten the airpath. - or make the fill tube larger bore." They do in their XL 21/Platinum line. I don't know about a steel fancase, but perhaps a steel lined fancase would make them more durable, while minimizing weight increase. Also, dirt tubes had a greater propensity to get clogged in the older models where they used pins and rivets. I've come to find many preowned Orecks have not been used but ABUSED. It's not designed to pick up gravel and coins, no dirty air cleaner is. I've seen Kirby (500 series) machines with busted fancases because someone tried to do that. All in all, I do think it's a pretty good design, and now that the patent has expired, other vac manufacturers are jumping on the bandwagon. IMHO, 4 amps is plenty of power.

Post# 79471 , Reply# 28   8/28/2009 at 03:01 (5,348 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I saw a Kirby 500 series machine that was used in an attempt to clean a swimming pool bottom-that poor machine was reduced to a wreck It was at the old Forestville Md Kirby center.The gravel from the pool bottom tore up the fan and fancase-also it was a wonder the user wasn't electrocuted-there was still some water in the pool too.And yes an the bag fill tubes-completely SMOOTH bore-no protruding screws,pins,rivits to catch debris-ie the long hair.
And yes even some "direct" air parking lot vacuums can be damaged when they are used to pick up bricks or other large rocklike items.Even those big steel fans can break.Usually those machines can cope with trash,cans,bottles-but not BRICKS.


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