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Hoover 4003 & 858
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Post# 78180   8/12/2009 at 08:53 (5,369 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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My apologies if this has been covered before .....

In around 1973 or so, American built Hoover 4003 uprights and 858 Connies where sold here in the UK. The 4003 I have had personal experience of had US tools as did the Connie. It appears the Connies were built around 1970, I do not have build dates for the 4003.

Anyone have any knowledge as to why they were sold here?
Al


Post# 78216 , Reply# 1   8/12/2009 at 15:58 (5,368 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
Great that you have joined!

Hi Al.

welcome to the club - i'll have you liking Hotpoint Liberators eventually! lol. Off at a tangent there - back on track now.

Afraid I cant help you with the reasons behind the import of these two models, so will be a second voice with your enquiry.

It does seem strange that Hoover UK had the capability to build their own machines, yet imported these two. Capacity issues over here?

Have to say that i am not a fan of the U4003's rather unusual styling. Not the prettiest of machines if you ask me. I think Seamus owns one doesn't he? SEAMUUUUSSSSSS!!!!!

Yep - just been and looked at what I think might be Seamus' example. Certainly doesnt float my boat with the hood style at all. Falls into the VW Beetle and Citroen 2CV camp of shapes that I just dont like (as a kid I was dragged out of a Herbie film, which was being played as an end of year treat at primary school, in near apoplexy! It was that bloody film wot did the damage!).

The 858 has grown on me though. The colour scheme originally had me running for the hills but, over time, it has grown on me. Certainly a brave and unusual colour combination.

Piccy of our machine below.

Again, welcome to the forum.
See you soon.
Paul





Post# 78217 , Reply# 2   8/12/2009 at 15:59 (5,368 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

The sticker that says it all...

Post# 78218 , Reply# 3   8/12/2009 at 16:00 (5,368 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
April 1970

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Post# 78223 , Reply# 4   8/12/2009 at 17:23 (5,368 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Did someone say U4003???

Hey Paul/Everyone

This is mine :)


Post# 78225 , Reply# 5   8/12/2009 at 17:27 (5,368 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Underneath...

November 1974- every one of these ive known of has been the same date indicating there may have just been one batch brought over?

On the same point all the 858 Connies ive asked people who have them about(and mine obviously) date from April 1970.


Post# 78226 , Reply# 6   8/12/2009 at 17:28 (5,368 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Height control..

With SHAG setting obviously........

Post# 78228 , Reply# 7   8/12/2009 at 17:32 (5,368 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Under the hood.....

Note the "cut away" lightweight chassis and the motor mounted speed control switch ;)

Post# 78230 , Reply# 8   8/12/2009 at 17:35 (5,368 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Forgot to say.....

Hey Al !

Its great to see you here- we need to catch up soon :)

Seamus


Post# 78234 , Reply# 9   8/12/2009 at 17:40 (5,368 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
UK U4003 Instructions

Although not mine sadly :(

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Post# 78246 , Reply# 17   8/12/2009 at 17:54 (5,368 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
3 points to note......

1. It was sold as a Convertible...

2. The mamual is dated 11-74 on the back page.

3. The note that "Any alteration may arise because of the companys policy of continous development and/or the world shortage of raw materials.
Maybe the 3 day week at Perivale ment this was imported because of insufficient production of UK models????

Seamus


Post# 78301 , Reply# 18   8/13/2009 at 04:36 (5,368 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
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That miners strikes, 3 day weeks, and electricity strikes meant factories where the first to ask to slow down usage and conserve electricity then it could be a given that production would have been halted dramatically and it was a means of keeping up sales and / or disposing of excess stock!!!

Long pile or shag anybody!!!!, I wonder how that terminolgy was viewed here at the time!!!...LOl cheers, Mike


Post# 78331 , Reply# 19   8/13/2009 at 10:20 (5,368 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Of course ....

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Funny, I always forget about the miners strike and 3 day week, in spite of actually having lived through it. It certainly sounds plausible to me, and a chance to shift some old stock too!

That said, Seamus' manual is 11/1974 which was a bit later than I remember, but it is there in black and white

Al


Post# 78388 , Reply# 20   8/14/2009 at 04:56 (5,367 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Old Stock

Hey Al

I believe the U4003 was a 1973 model in the US (maybe one of the US guys can confirm this?).

Therefore using up old parts would be about right lol !

Seamus



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