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My brand new Dyson DC03i
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Post# 78165   8/12/2009 at 08:21 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

It arrived today and I am so excited!

I am so pleased to get a factory fresh DC03i to add to my collection as they are very difficult to find now.

I haven't used it yet, but have switched it on and felt the suction power. It feels a bit more powerful than the DC24 and not too noisy. It really is light and slim and will go into places a regular Dyson upright won't go. I hope Dyson decide to offer a new version soon.

Enjoy the pics!


Post# 78166 , Reply# 1   8/12/2009 at 08:22 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Meant to put this pic first!

Post# 78167 , Reply# 2   8/12/2009 at 08:23 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

I can hardly contain my excitement at this point.

Post# 78168 , Reply# 3   8/12/2009 at 08:24 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Close up of cleaning head

Post# 78169 , Reply# 4   8/12/2009 at 08:24 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Side view

Post# 78170 , Reply# 5   8/12/2009 at 08:25 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Brushroll. Still in its virginal state!

Post# 78171 , Reply# 6   8/12/2009 at 08:26 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

On/Off switch

Post# 78172 , Reply# 7   8/12/2009 at 08:27 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Tools on board

Post# 78173 , Reply# 8   8/12/2009 at 08:27 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Rear view

Post# 78174 , Reply# 9   8/12/2009 at 08:28 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Cyclone assembly

Post# 78176 , Reply# 10   8/12/2009 at 08:30 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Tools with hose. The adaptor enables you to fit the hose to the handle.

Post# 78177 , Reply# 11   8/12/2009 at 08:30 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Serial number

Post# 78178 , Reply# 12   8/12/2009 at 08:31 (5,370 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Finally an arty shot!

Post# 78222 , Reply# 13   8/12/2009 at 17:22 (5,369 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Hi Roger - I think it's beautiful! That won't be a popular opinion here though, lol

I love the white and silver colour scheme; my favourite DC14 was the white/silver/yellow All Floors model.

How amazing to have a DC03i NIB, so long after production ended. I'm certainly envious!

The DC03 outputs 90 airwatts, same as the DC01, so the DC24 is actually more powerful at 120 airwatts, despite having a smaller motor. The DC24's smaller intake focusses intensified suction on the surface being cleaned, too, so pick-up is greatly enhanced. I spent over half an hour on the phone to the Dyson folks last week, and the DC24 vs the earlier compact models was one of the topics of discussion, as well as the DC27, DC28, and vac design in general.

I have 2 DC03s, both duplicates of the Clear models. This is the nicer of the two:


Post# 78271 , Reply# 14   8/12/2009 at 20:21 (5,369 days old) by joe22 ()        

it is a beauty

Post# 78291 , Reply# 15   8/13/2009 at 01:28 (5,369 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Hi Jack,

Glad you like my DC03i. I thought you would.

Out of interest, when did they stop production of this model?

I am reluctant to use it as I don't want to scratch the bin which happens with all Dysons after a few uses. I know I can buy a replacement bin, so I may get one before I use my DC03i.
I have been trying to find something to prevent the bin scratching, including using a clear bag inside, or clear self adhesive film to line it. My DC24's bin is still clear and that's the Dyson I tend to use the most. My DC23 scratched very quickly, possibly due to the faster speed of the spinning debris.

I have added a link to the Ebay seller that sold the DC03i.

From the listing of the Bissell, you can visit the seller's shop and keep an eye on their listings to see if they re-list the DC03. You could always contact the seller to ask if they have any more.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO ibaisaic's LINK on eBay


Post# 78296 , Reply# 16   8/13/2009 at 03:27 (5,369 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

I wish I could afford one right now, but I've just paid some BIG bills, and my savings have taken a huge hit. It will be a LONG time before I can afford anything new - and I may even end up having to sell a few things to get back on track.

I'm not sure about the exact date of when the DC03 was discontinued; I know it seemed to have one of the longest production runs of any Dyson cleaner. It was introduced in 1998, and the last catalogue I have which features it as a current model is an April 2005 issue of the Currys vacuum cleaner brochure, which had the DC03 Absolute.

I know what you mean about the clouding/sandblasting of the Clear Bin. My DC27's already opaque! You'll find that the more powerful a cleaner is, the faster the grit is spiralling down the outer cyclone, so the quicker it'll abrade. You'll notice that most DC01s, for instance, still have reasonably clear bins, since the air moved so much slower through those!

Speaking of the DC27, this info may interest you:

- The increased noise level is partially due to a new motor they're using, made for them by Samsung. They were disappointed by the level of motor failure in some of their machines in around 2003-4, resulting from users failing to maintain filters. The new Samsung motor has been rigorously tested and found to be much more reliable than the Amtek YDK, or the Panasonic motor they've used previously.

- The drop in airwatts, from 280/260 of the last generation of uprights, to 255 with the DC27, is due to widened airducts throughout the machine, which help prevent blockages

- Although the airwatt rating is lower than previous models, pick-up is actually improved, thanks to the tweaks they've given the soleplate, brush-housing, and airduct design system.

- The reason why our DC27 has the clutch system, rather than its own motor, as with the US version, is that during trials, the feedback from the British public overwhelmingly suggests that buyers do not like cleaners which leave tracks in their carpet!! I found that astonishing, but apparently, we're the opposite of the Americans, who want very aggressive uprights.

I'm told that the engineers find it very frustrating, because they'd like to make brush-rolls which are slightly more aggressive, and demonstrably more effective, but the public won't buy them! As I've mentioned before, a huge amount of what Dyson do is dictated by customer feedback and public demand - they make the cleaners that people want to buy.


Post# 78298 , Reply# 17   8/13/2009 at 04:06 (5,369 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
DC03

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Nice one Roger, lovely machine, am slooowwwwllllyyy coming round to them....Eh Jack..!!!!lol

When did production start in malaysia then?? I didnt think the DC-03 could have been made there that early!!!

I`m waiting for a BLACK version, now that would be stunning!!!

Enjoy, Mike

p.s


Post# 78299 , Reply# 18   8/13/2009 at 04:12 (5,369 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Groomed Pathlines!!!

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"the feedback from the British public overwhelmingly suggests that buyers do not like cleaners which leave tracks in their carpet!!"

Wow..I`m with you on that one who ever did they ask to get that feedback, are they mad!!!!cant tell a carpet is cleaned unless you have interacting grooming path lines!!!...Lol

I have only had one house guest who commented on the "Weirness" of having perfectly groomed pathlines in a bedroom carpet....needless to say the`ve never been invited back!!!

Cheers, Mike


Post# 78302 , Reply# 19   8/13/2009 at 04:37 (5,369 days old) by ibaisaic ()        

Jack,

Thanks for the info on the DC27. I find it odd that Dyson say that people don't like tracks in their carpets. That's why I prefer uprights over straight suction cleaners as you can tell that the carpet has been freshly vacuumed. When my partner came home after I first used my Miele S7, he exclaimed that it looked like the carpet had been mown!

I have a Vax Mach 5 but was almost put off buying one when I felt the softness of the brushes. I had a Maytag Windtunnel with a similar brushroll, but far stiffer bristles. Didn't you say that you were getting a stiffer brushroll to try in your Vax Mach 7?

Mike

I didn't used to like Dyson, especially when I used to be so loyal to Hoover. Now Hoover is a shadow of the company it used to be, I am widening my interest to include other brands. I have a love hate relationship with Dyson. I do think that they make interesting cleaners, but until they get the noise level to an acceptable standard, they will never be one of my daily drivers.

My favourite brand has to be Miele. I love using all the Mieles
I own. I love the quietness, performance, build quality and filtration of their cleaners. If I had to get rid of most of my collection, the Mieles would be the ones I kept hold of.


Post# 78307 , Reply# 20   8/13/2009 at 04:52 (5,369 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Hi Mike,

all I can say is what I've been told; during the development of each new model, the cleaner is subject to home-trials. Dyson also gather feedback from members of the public in the forms of focus groups, on current models.

The resounding answer Dyson have consistantly got from these groups is that Brits don't want a carpet with lines in. Pyschologically, it's because it makes the carpet look good as soon as you've finished vacuuming, but as soon as you walk on it, you get footprints in the pile as it gets trodden flat again. It appears to negate the task you've just spent 10 mins doing, which annoys people - they feel it needs doing again almost as soon as they've finished!

And of course, the public rather differ from us; they don't want to have to vacuum daily to keep their carpets looking good. They find doing it once or twice a week a pain! They think they should vacuum again, but they don't want to. Thus, they find themselves resisting the urge to act - think how uncomfortable it feels to ignore a ringing telephone, for example!




Post# 78309 , Reply# 21   8/13/2009 at 05:16 (5,369 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Roger,

when TTI/Hoover launches a new product, Vax always subject it to a rigorous assessment, to consider whether it's appropriate for introduction in the UK. The Mach range got the green light, the Windtunnel 2 didn't, and the Platinum collection are still under consideration.

The machines are put through all sorts of testing during this process. They weren't happy with the amount of wear caused on certain carpets by the American brush-rolls, which is why the bristles they ended up using were so much softer.

I am intending to put a US brush-roll in my Mach7, it's one of the many things on my 'to do' list which I haven't got around to yet!!


Post# 78392 , Reply# 22   8/14/2009 at 11:23 (5,367 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
Groomed Pathlines!!!

The general British Public want a bloody good slapping!

The whole point of an upright is to reactivate downtrodden pile and remove deeply embedded grit.

Maybe Dyson engineers should consider adding beater bars to their machines, to compensate for the Public's desire for soft, tickling brushes.


Post# 78397 , Reply# 23   8/14/2009 at 12:12 (5,367 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Dyson will NEVER use beater-bars, because they're so strongly and historically associated with Hoover. And 'Hoover' is as dirty a word at Dyson as 'Dyson' is on this forum!

Not surprising; they refused to see him when he approached them to licence his Dual Cyclone technology, then infringed his patents selling by their inferior version of his cyclonic design with their 'Vortex'model. And now, Hoover R&D for new products consists of taking the latest Dyson model and asking 'How can we do this, but cheaper?'

Dyson's whole 'thing' is coming up with new solutions to old problems.

Beater bars? No. Agitation using ultrasonic waves? Perhaps....


Post# 78404 , Reply# 24   8/14/2009 at 14:43 (5,367 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
Beater bars are a proven technology...

...and they work quite effectively. To dismiss that outright is rather short sighted. I wonder just how much more efficiently a Dyson would perform if it had beater bars.

Ultrasonic vacuum cleaner agitation, on the other hand, is an unknown technology that has problems of its own - namely the problem of keeping the agitator tuned to the fabric being cleaned. One only has to look at the textile industry, where ultrasonic cutters/sealers are routinely used to trim selvedges, to know that they are not the definitive answer to all fabrics.


Post# 78467 , Reply# 25   8/15/2009 at 16:38 (5,366 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
'Beater bars are a proven technology...'

So were bags!

'Ultrasound' was illustrative of my point that they'll go for the new technology which makes headlines, not someone else's 83-year old brainchild.

Whilst the UK public is perfectly happy with the clutch set-up, and Which? Magazine continue to award Dyson machines 5 out of 5 stars for carpet cleaning, they have no pressing reason to sink R&D funds into developing something new.



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