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Post# 75918 7/20/2009 at 06:11 (5,387 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes A fine piece of German automotive engineering... 'The Miele S7 AutoCare...' 'Observe the fit and finish of the coachwork. Truly a machine of great beauty...' 'Remarkably slimline and low in profile...' 'Automatic adjustment - your eyes need never leave the road...' 'Power steering. Turns effortlessly at a flick of your wrist..' 'All essential controls fall easily to hand...' 'LED headlight. Illuminates the road ahead...' 'Class-leading aerodynamics...' 'Navigates any obstacle with playful ease...' '6-litre airbag...' 'Undercarriage retracts during take-off...' 'All the necessary extras to enhance your driving experience...'

Post# 75924 , Reply# 1 7/20/2009 at 07:57 (5,387 days old) by ibaisaic ()
Checkrate/Likes Jack, You now have an upright that all the others will have to try and live up to. Use your Hoover Freedom Airvolution followed by the Miele and see just how much better the Miele is in every way. I trust a video will follow soon!

Post# 75926 , Reply# 2 7/20/2009 at 08:52 (5,387 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)
Checkrate/Likes *Nice!* Jack, You'll love it more and more each time you use it. It's a tad heavy, but it's elligance makes up for it. I can't wait to get some more of the new attachments for it that Miele released. At a million US dollars an attachment, I'll have to buy them a few at a time :) Best, Andrew

Post# 75929 , Reply# 3 7/20/2009 at 11:09 (5,387 days old) by vintagehoover ()
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Post# 75930 , Reply# 4 7/20/2009 at 12:00 (5,387 days old) by kirbyotronic ()
Checkrate/Likes Congrats on your new Miele Jack! I'll get to pick both of my Mieles in 4 days! Can't wait! ~Alex

Post# 75933 , Reply# 5 7/20/2009 at 12:20 (5,387 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)
Checkrate/Likes Alex, What model/color of the S7 were you getting again? I forgot.

Post# 75934 , Reply# 6 7/20/2009 at 12:37 (5,387 days old) by kirbyotronic ()
Checkrate/Likes Andrew, I bought the Tango which is "Metallic Titan Red", so it's the same as Jacks'. Different names on them though! ~Alex

Post# 75935 , Reply# 7 7/20/2009 at 12:38 (5,387 days old) by samotronic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Great Choice* I have a Bolero (black) and I think this is the most innovation that vacuums have seen in 50 years. The design is almost flawless. My only gripe is that the nob on the hepa filter screen sticks up and is somewhat sharp causing scratches and nicks on chairs and other low to the floor wood furniture. I also have a difficult time getting the dusting brush on and off of the extension wand (not the main handle but the metal wand). I was used to a rotating upolstry tool for pet hair and plan to buy one for this, but the upolstry tool that comes with it is surprisingly effective. Chris

Post# 75939 , Reply# 8 7/20/2009 at 14:23 (5,387 days old) by retardturtle ()
Checkrate/Likes beautiful machines....to all that own them. you can see the solid build and quality.would love to have some at the shop..but our area wouldnt embrace it.. nice vid....love the way it sounds like a jet....so what the agressiveness like on the roller...what are the motor specs for those .

Post# 75944 , Reply# 9 7/20/2009 at 15:54 (5,387 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes Roger - the Freedom will always have a special place in my collection, because it was a gift to me from the company. But you're right, the S7 is better in every way (which is reflected in the price, of course!!). Andrew - I seem to recall a certain Nebraskan who loved his S7 Swing so much, he bought special microfibre cloths to clean the paintwork with...can you think who that might be? Because I wanted to thank him - his enthusiasm for his S7 inspired me to buy mine, and I'm so glad I did :) Alex - believe the hype, it's worth every penny! You won't regret your purchase. Only difference between your Tango and my AutoCare, aside from the name, and the name of the colour (here it's called Garnet Red Metallic!), is the wattage - the 240v version is rated at 1800w. Chris - I personally don't feel it's the most innovative cleaner from the last 50 years, since it doesn't really offer any entirely new technology. It's a steerable, bagged, upright vacuum cleaner. The swivel neck is a unique design, but the steerable category isn't a modern invention - Model 0 had rear swivel-castors! The floating brush is similar to the design Vorwerk have been using for 20 years, but with springs added to keep it in contact with the floor. The headlight, auto power, stair-cleaning hose...they've been done many times. I find the S7 so important because it combines all the right features with legendary Miele quality. It's all brought together in a near perfectly-designed package, which makes a cleaner that's hard to beat. As Roger said, it's a cleaner other vacuums should aspire to be!

Post# 75946 , Reply# 10 7/20/2009 at 16:33 (5,387 days old) by samotronic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Ok, Ok* You're right Jack, I get a little carried away sometimes. I guess it is a great combination of many recent ammenities with, as you said, the esteemed Miele quality. And they are ammenities that the US Hoover and Kirby that I am most familiar with have not incorporated to date.

Post# 75947 , Reply# 11 7/20/2009 at 16:56 (5,387 days old) by crevicetool (GA )
Checkrate/Likes Jack, Your commentary was great. The pictures - stunning - so crisp and well choreographed. You have missed your calling! Rick

Post# 75960 , Reply# 12 7/20/2009 at 21:10 (5,387 days old) by joe22 ()
Checkrate/Likes it is a thing of great beauty, love the swivel wheels on the front of the vac. awesome

Post# 75974 , Reply# 13 7/20/2009 at 22:05 (5,387 days old) by kirbyotronic ()
Checkrate/Likes I always forget about the difference between the US and UK Miele motors! Also, I just noticed I said "I'll get to pick both of my Mieles", I meant to say "pick up" :). A little delay happened so I'm picking them up on the 25th instead, only one day longer. ;) ~Alex

Post# 75977 , Reply# 14 7/20/2009 at 22:21 (5,387 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)
Checkrate/Likes UK, Canadian and USA Miele same canister and upright and the S7 models all have different model names geared for the country of sale. May be the same in each country they sell in? For instance, the Canadian S5 canisters are called Janus, Venus, Luna and Jupiter while I think the USA S5's are named after Gods. I like the S7 very much although it is top heavy in use and tends to drop to the ground without a firm grip as I recall. Great fun and almost effortless to steer around. But I'll have to wait for a used one. At CN$499 for the bol white one they are just too dear. The only brand new vacuums I have bought were the two Sears Premalite Bagless uprights...and that's only because I got them for $25 each at the Sears under the table clearance store here. Dave

Post# 75980 , Reply# 15 7/20/2009 at 22:39 (5,387 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)
Checkrate/Likes *Canadian S5 shake-up...* Janus and Luna have been discontinued. Venus has lost its garnet red metallic colour (now "blackberry red"), and adds a +/- speed control to take over the Luna's spot. The replacement for the original Venus is the Flora which is bright orange and comes with the SEB217 included. If you have a Costco nearby, you can get a Miele Mistral S7 for $459.99 including two packages of bags!

Post# 76009 , Reply# 16 7/21/2009 at 09:24 (5,386 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *'It shows you the dirt you never knew you had!'* AND 'It beats as it sweeps as it cleans!!'

Post# 76163 , Reply# 17 7/22/2009 at 22:07 (5,385 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)
Checkrate/Likes *Looks like a beautiful machine....* I love the sleek look in the same way I love the design of the Electrolux Oxygen Three upright. A real aerodynamic response to the gawd-awful mess of tubes and tanks and clips and "hard-to-clean" nooks and crannies of all the bulky cumbersome "hardware store on wheels" being sold by all the other companies, including my beloved Eureka. This is what Gehry's Bilbao Museum is to the Pompidou Centre in Paris! Would Miele listen to us vac-fans if we told them they just need to get rid of that furniture-killing filter cover handle? It's amazing that they did not think about how to resolve that unfortunate design flaw. It would be the simplest thing to change to make the hood perfect!

Post# 76529 , Reply# 18 7/26/2009 at 11:07 (5,381 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)
Checkrate/Likes *One Week On..!!* very nice, videos excellent!!!...hows it fareing Jack...the best modern upright to date??? The last vid made me smile..look at the base plate of the S7 front on in action....and it looks like the profile of a Hoover 612 - front bottom bumper!!!..well I think so!!!

Post# 76595 , Reply# 19 7/27/2009 at 19:13 (5,380 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)
Checkrate/Likes *Miele gone 'Hooverish'* Very nice to see at long last decent beating of the carpet, and the underside shots of the Miele's soleplate struck me as "classic Hoover!". I know what Chestermike means: the sweeping curves of the design of the front bumper of the Miele, from that angle do shout "classic Hoover!" - which isn't a bad thing at all, considering that Hoover UK seems to have binned all its research knowledge in favour of copying Dyson's designs.

Post# 76597 , Reply# 20 7/27/2009 at 19:19 (5,380 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)
Checkrate/Likes *Off topic, I know but...* I tried to get a new agitator/activator for mum's Hoover 'Turbopower 3' - the blessed part is now obsolete and the cleaner is only a dozen or so years old!!!

Post# 76636 , Reply# 21 7/28/2009 at 01:52 (5,380 days old) by ibaisaic ()
Checkrate/Likes *Turbopower 3 Activator* Calum, Click on the link for a Turbopower 2/3 agitator body. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ibaisaic's LINK on eBay

Post# 76797 , Reply# 22 7/29/2009 at 20:31 (5,378 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks Roger, but...* ...there may be a problem. The agitator fitted to mum's machine was a Genuine replacement from Hoover Bolton Spares warehouse. When it arrived, I noticed that it had a legend imprinted into the body, saying "Brush Type 2". I think the bearings were also different (gone were the traditional Hoover ballrace bearings, in their place seemed to be Electrolux/Dyson style of roller bearings). The black phenolic bearing housing also seemed to be a different design. The replacement agitator seemed to run smoother than the original. On top of that, mother's machine has a large crack down the bag door ('Sellotaped' up, of course!), and the rear wheels have been replaced already. The dusting brush, upholstery nozzle and the hose handgrip wore out and were transplanted from the 'Purepower' successor which lasted half as long! All in all, it has achieved geriatric status, but its mind is still active (the 'Autosense' power control seems to work fine). The next move will be another cleaner.

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