I picked up a nice Avocado Green and Tan Hoover Convertible this last Friday for $12.00 at Salvation Army. It was tagged $20 but it was 40% of day. I think it is a model 584 but I am work and the machine is at home so I will have to check tonight and post a picture.
When checking it out I found that it had a Eureka F & G bag and not a Hoover C bag. I assume the machine will function just fine with the Eureka bag or better because of the fill tube instead of just blowing the dirty into the tube shaped C bag. Can I get some opinions on this?
I also have a Hoover Convertible in Purple model 63 which had been worked on before I got it at Goodwill and it has a new black cord and newer bag that uses the Style A bags.
Post# 68414 , Reply# 1 5/4/2009 at 10:39 (5,464 days old) by ohio_tuec ()
In all honesty, I find Hoovers to work even better with the Type F&G Eureka Bag. I use one now in my Hoover model 61, and I like the fact that changing the bag is not as messy, plus the cleaner runs more efficient, as it does not have to "fight" the old dirt with the bottom-fill design. Why Hoover kept the "Type C" as long as they did is anyone's guess.
Post# 68415 , Reply# 2 5/4/2009 at 10:59 (5,464 days old) by swingette ()
In an average home, the C bag is just large enough to last one month, and it makes sense to change your vacuum bag about once a month whether it is full or not. Nobody want to store quantities of old dirt. IMO the filtration is not as bad as some will lead you to believe. Im thinking about the original Hoover Company bags.
On the other hand, having used the C bag in a commercial setting for some time, I will state the obvious and say the C bag is a poor choice for high traffic or commercial settings. Fine powder, like road dust, will clog it every time. And if you change the bag according to the package instruction you will just about always have some dirt spilled. Sometimes just a sprinkle, but still a spill.
Post# 68419 , Reply# 3 5/4/2009 at 12:01 (5,464 days old) by tristar ()
It's kind of dependent on what outer bag you have. If it's one of the really skinny ones, the F&G is a poor choice since it will get it's fill tube pinched when the bag tries to puff up. If it's one of the broader bags, the F&Gs are definitely the way to go.
IMHO the Type C bag is a waste of time. Not only is it a pain to replace, but the dirt and stuff is always trying to fall back down the fill tube. The pores clog in a split second, and if you really need to clean up a dirty carpet, there's just not enough airflow to get the job done thoroughly.
Mind you, the plain-jane F&G's aren't much better than the Type C's on this next issue, but the FilterAire bags are GREAT. My final complaint with the Type C bag is the dust leakage. I've had genuine, DVD, bojack, and the modern white Type C's and they ALL do this. Literally when you're done vacuuming look around at your furniture. You'll see a very fine coating of dust on EVERYTHING. If you use the machine long enough without cleaning it up, you'll even see the fine dust clinging to the outer vinyl bag. You'd have thought that with all the advances in technology that Hoover would have taken the 5 seconds to leaf through a filter paper catalog and find something that worked better.
But anyway......I digress....
Post# 68427 , Reply# 4 5/4/2009 at 13:01 (5,464 days old) by kirbyluxhoover(Pinole, CA)
My Green Hoover does have a beige outter bag large enought to hold the F & G Bag. In fact the F & G is not even as tall as the outter bag. I can't wait to post a pic to get some input from the Hoover Experts. I assume this machine minus the hardware store plug is all Hoover.
Spot-on, tristar, about the F&G bag inside of a narrow Convertible bag...
Also remember that if you go to use an F&G bag in something like a 60's or 70's Convertible... where the F&G bag is larger than the original, narrow outer bags... Be careful that your bags, zippers, or snaps don't rip apart because they're too small to contain a fully inflated F&G bag.
But, yes, I agree.. I have a model 918 set up with a type C bellows and fill tube inside, and I may be guilty of using an F&G bag in it...
I also retrofitted a model 62 bellows and fill tube inside of my model 29 bag, so I can run a Handisac inside of my original model 29 bag. :-)
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