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The Hoover Junior in the U.S.A.
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Post# 65726   4/10/2009 at 12:00 (5,487 days old) by kirbyclassiciii (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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What kind of color scheme did the first modern Hoover Junior have when imported to the U.S. as the Lightweight Upright model 1330?

I already know that the 1348 had a Garland Green and Taupe trim color and the U1025 had a Pale Honey and Almond trim color.

~Ben (KirbyClassicIII)


Post# 65729 , Reply# 1   4/10/2009 at 12:20 (5,487 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        
ooo

I did not know there were US models of the junior. Do they actually look just like the uk ones?

Post# 65740 , Reply# 2   4/10/2009 at 14:13 (5,487 days old) by kirbyclassiciii (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Yes, Brandon ...

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There were - and yes they did resemble the U.K. models.

But they didn't sell well here due to their obvious small size, as the average-sized homes here were considered a bit too large, and thus the Juniors were only desirable by those people living on a very small budget.

None of our Juniors ever had headlights, nor did we get the hardshell Dial-A-Matic-like bagged models, known as the Junior Deluxes.

U.S. Junior model history:
115 was based on the U.K. model 119; produced early 1950s
1330 was based on the U.K. model 1334; produced early 1960s
1348 was based on the U.K. model 1346(A); produced late 1960s to mid 1970s
U1025 was based on the U.K. model U1012; produced late 1970s

~Ben



Post# 65752 , Reply# 3   4/10/2009 at 15:46 (5,487 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
I believe...

Theres currently a 1330 on Ebay...

The 115 was basically our 119 and was I believe NC built.

The 1330 was our 1334A and was built at Perivale.

Later models 1340, 1348 and U1025 consisted of UK built base/motor assemblies then the bags/ handles were added once they got to the US.

If anyone knows different feel free to correct me lol

Seamus


Post# 65753 , Reply# 4   4/10/2009 at 16:56 (5,487 days old) by samotronic ()        
Electricity

I was under the impression that these were built in the U.K. and sent to North Canton for the electrical system to be converted for US. These had floor switches which US Hoovers never had and I was told that was a requirement in U.K.

Post# 65771 , Reply# 5   4/10/2009 at 17:41 (5,487 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Samotronic, when you say:

'I was under the impression that these were built in the U.K. and sent to North Canton for the electrical system to be converted for US.'

I'm not entirely sure what you mean...any Hoover machines made in the Perivale factory in the UK for export to the US would surely have been rated at 120v? It would make no sense for Hoover to export them with European motors, then scrap the motors at North Canton and put new 120v units in!!

Both the Perivale factory, and the factory in Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, had been making machines for export, as well as for the domestic market, for many years. From when Hoover came to Britain officially in 1919, until the Hoover factory was built in Perivale in 1932, all our UK Hoovers were imports from Ontario, Canada. They were sent to Hoover's London Depot for distribution, seen here in 1923:


Post# 65775 , Reply# 6   4/10/2009 at 17:48 (5,487 days old) by kirbyclassiciii (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Could Anyone Please ...

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Find out exactly what the trim colors were for the 1330 and 1340?

Thank you,



Ben Edge


Post# 65777 , Reply# 7   4/10/2009 at 18:13 (5,487 days old) by samotronic ()        
Hey Vintagehoover

I believe I read that on Wikipedia and stand by my source as any devout vacuum researcher would do.... LOL. Sorry. I am out of my league on this subject and you are surely right. This machine always fascinated me because I was a child during the brief time (mid 60s) when these were seen here in the US and everything about these seemed so different from the Convertibles that we were used to. I remember that I once turned one on accidently at a downtown Pittsburgh department store display by touching that toe on-off switch that other US models did not have.

Post# 65782 , Reply# 8   4/10/2009 at 18:43 (5,487 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Ugh, wikipedia...

I've given up trying to turn that into a credible source for Hoover info! Several times I've written a well-researched, accurate account of the company's history, with annotated sources etc, and come back a few days later to find someone with a very poor grasp of the English language has altered it all and deleted all my sources (like wtf?!). I guess that's the nature of wikipedia though; I accept that I do not own the page - it's just frustrating!

I'll stick to my site now! Everything on there is trustworthy!


Post# 65845 , Reply# 9   4/11/2009 at 02:55 (5,486 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover 1330 US....1334UK....

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The first revised UK Junior with the paper bag had the Ivory & Rose trim, which was first produced in July 1958....later changed in July 1962 to Grey & White...

Post# 65846 , Reply# 10   4/11/2009 at 03:02 (5,486 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
US 1330 Hoover Junior

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Heres Tom Andersons fine example of the 1334 we where privileged to see at the Hoover 100th Anniversary Convention last year!!!

Post# 65847 , Reply# 11   4/11/2009 at 03:06 (5,486 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Juniors

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Heres a few more model styles & colourways taken at the last Hooverland UK meet, when we brought them all together!!!

Post# 65856 , Reply# 12   4/11/2009 at 09:40 (5,486 days old) by luxg ()        

Wow Mike, what a collection, I have just got to get over there one day and see it in person!!!!

Post# 66756 , Reply# 13   4/17/2009 at 22:44 (5,480 days old) by kirbyclassiciii (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Help from Tom Anderson ...

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Tom Anderson (myhooverco) could be the most likely man to help me out on all these production dates of the American sales of the Junior, or Lightweight Upright.

Regards,



Ben


Post# 66761 , Reply# 14   4/17/2009 at 22:59 (5,480 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        

Mike,Thanks much for sharing those great pictures of the British Hoover jrs.
Norm


Post# 66801 , Reply# 15   4/18/2009 at 04:52 (5,479 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

The ivory/rose colored Junior is beautiful...so simple, and yet so elegant.

Post# 66802 , Reply# 16   4/18/2009 at 05:02 (5,479 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Here's my Junior 1334 - this one's a VERY early one, from the first 3 months of production!

Post# 66803 , Reply# 17   4/18/2009 at 05:03 (5,479 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

...and set up with its dusting tools!

Post# 66814 , Reply# 18   4/18/2009 at 10:12 (5,479 days old) by samotronic ()        
Dusting Tools performance

Just curious, how was the performance of the dusting tools?

Chris


Post# 66824 , Reply# 19   4/18/2009 at 12:48 (5,479 days old) by kirbyclassiciii (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Performance with Attachments

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I would think average performance.

Post# 66829 , Reply# 20   4/18/2009 at 14:15 (5,479 days old) by tristar ()        
Average Performance

Compared to what? Most of the Hoover uprights had pathetic hose suction. I doubt the Lark/Junior would be too much better. While they do have the direct hose connection like a Kirby or Royal, they're not exactly known for being powerful.

It's probably best to let someone in the UK who owns/uses these kinds of machines pass judgement about their hose suction performance.


Post# 67211 , Reply# 21   4/20/2009 at 17:41 (5,477 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)        
Great

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photos Jack.

Post# 67216 , Reply# 22   4/20/2009 at 18:16 (5,477 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Thanks, Bernie...I try my best!

Post# 67255 , Reply# 23   4/21/2009 at 03:21 (5,476 days old) by junior1975 ()        
Above floor cleaning.

The junior cleaners had a much more air tight connection between the tools and the fan. The connector from the hose extended into the body of the machine, and sealed with the fan chamber, locating around a slightly raised edge to the fan hole.

This meant that the suction via the hose was reasonabley adequate, and in comparison to the senior/convertible machnes, it was outstanding.

Although it was never going to create a small black hole when used, it was an effective tool owing to its much superior sealing of the air path.

I hope this helps.

Happy hoovering guys.

Clark.


Post# 67280 , Reply# 24   4/21/2009 at 17:23 (5,476 days old) by samotronic ()        
Above Floor Cleaning :)

I (as a U.S. Child) always admired these machines in the mid 60s. It always appeared as a total machine for me, so I am not surprised to hear that the tool suction was at least decent. I am a Convertible nut and am still bitter at Hoover for marketing such a legendary product that had such pathetic tool suction, though they made such a big deal about the tool conversion. This sounds like a thread of its own. But kudos to the junior for having decent floor and above performance.

Chris


Post# 429655 , Reply# 25   8/8/2020 at 11:54 (1,349 days old) by Ilovehoovers (England)        

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Too bad they're quite rare now :(

Post# 429662 , Reply# 26   8/8/2020 at 16:20 (1,349 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA)        
Junior 1340 I’m selling on eBay

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