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Thread Number: 5755
STAN KANNS VACUUMS FOR SALE!!! |
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| Post# 63985 3/26/2009 at 17:18 (5,503 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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AGH!!! wish I had the money! SOMEONE SAVE THEM!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllQUES... | ||
| Post# 63987 , Reply# 1 3/26/2009 at 17:24 (5,503 days old) by ttuee2006 () | ||
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That's just disgusting. I didn't ever know him personally, but it seems like this is just such a terrible way for such a fantastic collection to end up. Some of those machines belonged in a museum.....not being sold by one! | ||
| Post# 63993 , Reply# 5 3/26/2009 at 18:37 (5,503 days old) by vintageroyal611 () | ||
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Great idea David! | ||
| Post# 63994 , Reply# 6 3/26/2009 at 18:37 (5,503 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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Good Idea I like the collection fund Idea. It would ensure that the vacs go into good hands. Not that any regular ebayer will want to spend $22,000 on vacuums | ||
| Post# 63995 , Reply# 7 3/26/2009 at 19:09 (5,503 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk) | ||
I agree with Eric. Thats just plain disgusting. I very much doubt that Stan would have left the machines or his car to them had he known that all they would do is auction them off instead of displaying them properly. As far as I'm concerned that is a total betrayal of the trust placed in them on the museums part. Doug | ||
| Post# 64003 , Reply# 10 3/26/2009 at 20:15 (5,503 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
For SHAME.
I'm appalled and can only view this reprehensible situation one thing at a time and try not to overreact. I wish I had the resources to send a probate judge down to The St Louis Car Museum to examine the will's terms concerning Stan's bequest. Where are the Fox Theatre Organ's building owners in all of this? Someone in St Louis please alert the St Louis Beacon paper and KSDA Channel 5 television station, both of whom did big stories on Stan, to do a story and get some answers. Let's assist proactively to give this 'Museum' all the negative publicity they deserve. Let's say there are 75 machines. That's $305 apiece at Buy It Now. 75 at opening bid works out to $233. That's before the cost of renting a truck to haul 'em wherever they might go. Admittedly there are mostly highly desirable vacuum sweepers pictured here. If I were in a position to bid on such a large job lot I would expect a massive per-item discount. I'll be surprised if they get any bids at all. Surely such an impressive organization that auctions off automobiles at inflated prices has the facility to auction these one at a time. Something fishy is afoot. On a positive note, there are examples of Stan's Collection in other collections among VCCC members and others that will always be freely viewable. Dave CONTACT US Past and future clients should always feel free to call us to answer questions about our inventory or to make appointments for viewing automobiles. St. Louis Car Museum 1575 Woodson Rd. St. Louis, MO 63114 800-957-5707 info@stlouiscarmuseum.com CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeoliandave's LINK | ||
| Post# 64004 , Reply# 11 3/26/2009 at 20:29 (5,503 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk) | ||
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Re: Slow down a bit Ok John - my question in that case would have to be What buisness does a museum have acting as an auctioneer in the first place???? The two are mutually exclusive positions. I have been a member of one of our museums here for 10 years and served a term as president as well. I dont know what rules that museum operates under but were we to try to auction off anything that wasnt specifically given to us for the purpose of an auction we would be shut down. If Stans intent was to have these auctioned off it should have been clearly stated as such in the listing, which seems to say everything BUT why they are doing this. Doug | ||
| Post# 64008 , Reply# 12 3/26/2009 at 21:15 (5,503 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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This is NOT a Museum, it is a Classic car Dealership business. Nowhere on their brief website is there mention of an open to the public static display. You have to make an appointment to view the cars which are all for sale. Being an upscale Collector Car Store what are the vacuums doing in their care in the first place? Does the current 'owner/recipient' of Stan's vacuums not realize he was a longstanding figurehead in a not insignificant Hobby from which decent profit could be realized by listing these items individually on Ebay? Did Stan have a partner or is this Family at work? Whose choice is this absurd liquidation option? If Stan did in fact leave the car to someone who has now decided to auction it off why are the vacuums included? Perhaps Stan left no will and the Lawyers in charge are anxious to rid themselves of his effects without much effort. All speculation until some answers are unearthed. It all still sounds mighty shifty to me... | ||
| Post# 64011 , Reply# 14 3/26/2009 at 21:34 (5,503 days old) by lux1521 () | ||
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This is all very interesting. This all seems contradictory to what was posted in the off topic forum a while back. CLICK HERE TO GO TO lux1521's LINK | ||
| Post# 64024 , Reply# 16 3/27/2009 at 00:21 (5,503 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk) | ||
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Hey John: Sorry - I didnt intend it to sound heated. If this is the case and someone has bought them from the estate fine. Being directly involved with museums it just irked me when it sounded like it was a museum doing something underhanded. (And yes it still rubs me the wrong way for an auction house to hide behind a museum name) My appologies Doug | ||
Post# 64031 , Reply# 17 3/27/2009 at 06:58 (5,503 days old) by vinvac  (Dubuque IA) |
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David, You are correct, that is what happened. They were purchased from the estate and not given to the museum. As was stated in the original post, Stan did not have a will so they had to be sold to settle the estate. I am not sure, nor do I care what his reasons are for selling them. Truly it is none of our business! What is important for all of us to remember is that if we truly don't want our vacuums sold, thrown out, or given away we should include them in our will. It is clear by the auction that there is no dis-respect for Stan. It was his choice once purchased, to do with them what he chooses. Morgan | ||
| Post# 64246 , Reply# 18 3/29/2009 at 08:24 (5,500 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
I had no idea that Stan had passed away. So sad.
That's so sad. Heart surgery is a very common yet still dangerous procedure these days. I know....my dad had open heart surgery in the summer of 2007 and was infected with Multidrug Resistant Staph bacteria while in hospital. He required an even longer re-operation on his heart valve and never survived the second surgery. He was 82. It would be wonderful if some wealthy philanthropist could put up the money for a real, permanent vac museum in the USA. But I guess in our bad economic situation, it's better to feed the hungry and house the homeless than find a good retirement home for our beloved vacs. So this Vac Club is the next best thing! In essence all our collections are a world-wide vac museum run by people who really care about them. And the mini-meets and home visits are like visiting mini-museums all over the world. Keep up the great work VCCC Vac Fans! | ||
| Post# 65159 , Reply# 19 4/6/2009 at 02:38 (5,493 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK) | ||
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Unsold...... No surprise there IMHO... Maybe they will be listed individually - who knows..... Seamus | ||
| Post# 67902 , Reply# 20 4/27/2009 at 20:32 (5,471 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL) | ||
What awful people............... | ||
| Post# 68005 , Reply# 21 4/29/2009 at 00:33 (5,470 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas) | ||
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| Post# 68234 , Reply# 22 5/2/2009 at 11:53 (5,466 days old) by ridgidvac () | ||
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Nice colection if I had the room & the $ I'd have bought those vacs; it's hard 2 let go of these nice antiques (better than living in a gold mine) | ||
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