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| Post# 55591 12/1/2008 at 23:50 (5,621 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas) | ||
Here's an interesting tidbit,or observation. Im having a room addition built onto my home, so naturally there has been MUCH sawdust, debris, drywall dust, ect. to clean up. After one particularly bad day of every inch of the room having at least 2 inches of drywall and sheetrock mud/dust covering it,(not to mention sawdust, and wood shavings mixed in) I reached for the Filter Queen Majestic, thinking surely with an empty bucket, a new genuine cone,charcoal filter, and inner(inside) top filter, the Filter Queen would gobble up this horrible mess, no problem. WRONG!,,,the Majestic chocked up, and cut off the suction almost immediatly! What the?? I dont understand it,,,a Filter Queen with an empty bin, and new cone? The suction was tremendous before i started cleaning! No, the hose wasnt blocked,,i guess the incredible amount of drywall dust(which is worse that chalk dust) was just too much for the FQ. After unclamping the FQ motor,,,there was about only 3 inches of dust in the bottom,,,,that was all it took to almost completly shut off the suction. Evidently a Filter Queen just dosent like drywall dust! OK,,,well, i threw that back in the closet after emptying it, and cleaning it all up, and got out the TriStar EXL,,,put a new micro liner in the bag, made sure the pre and post motor filters were clean and clear,,,and low and behold,,,the TriStar gobbled up all the sheetrock and drywall dust,and every bit of the mess without any hesitation what so ever! Yes, the motor did start to strain after the bag was a little over half way full,,,so, i put a new liner in,,and it hummed along without any problem at all. I eventually filled 4 liners a little over half way with drywall and sheetrock dust, where the FQ couldnt hardly handle it at all. The TriStar also ate up every bit of sawdust, and wood shavings,,,no problem what so ever. The FG did not spew any dust back into the room however,,,but then neither did the TriStar. I checked the post motor filter on the TriStar,,it had a very slight amount of drywall dust residue, but none hardly at all. Was really supprised at that,,,so the lession i learned was that an FQ is great for everyday household dirt and dust,,,but if you really want some power, and have a room full of drywall dust, or a horrible mess to clean up, get a TriStar! (or at least i will from now on!) Cant help but love the Filter Queen tho,,,they really are an excellent vacuum cleaner. | ||
| Post# 55597 , Reply# 2 12/2/2008 at 08:04 (5,620 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
Excellent report, Brian.
Now that's a real world experience that tells us a lot. Every vacuum I have gotten at the local Restore and many others had their bags stuffed with reno materials - nails, washers, screws, sawdust and of course, plaster powder. It seems to be their fate that their last task before turfing is cleaning up after Mom's Son's worthy home project. I too have noticed that sturdy battle scarred Compacts are in high demand on jobsites when a Shop Vac just won't do. Bob the Builder knows a thing or two. As in, the Compact is more portable, bounces off studs without tipping and is not easily clogged. I have used my shopvac to finish sucking out water from my 'motionless' waterbed (it's filled with a fibrous matting) to the point of flat collapse making it possible to roll up and move by one person. Dave | ||
| Post# 55600 , Reply# 3 12/2/2008 at 09:35 (5,620 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk) | ||
Having serviced vacuums for years I would NOT recommend using any vacuum that does not have a bypass motor (like a shop vac) for drywall dust. It is extremely fine and does get through pretty much any bag. When it gets into the motor it acts as an abrasive and literally eats out the motor. I have replaced a rediculous ammount of motors simply because someone used their normal vacuum for drywall dust. It is one of the worst things I have seen (lol - besides water) for destroying a motor. It's much cheaper to buy a $99 shop vac and keep emptying it than a $200+ replacement motor for your good vacuum.
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| Post# 55607 , Reply# 4 12/2/2008 at 16:28 (5,620 days old) by electroluxxxx (……) | ||
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I usually use my shop vac with a Filter bag and the Hepa Filter inside it so I get triple the protection. and double the suction power Mike | ||
| Post# 55610 , Reply# 5 12/2/2008 at 16:46 (5,620 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas) | ||
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| Post# 55622 , Reply# 8 12/2/2008 at 23:18 (5,620 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas) | ||
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Opps, i see where i made a mistake,,,,my Tristar isnt an EXL,,,,its a DXL! Was telling a friend that cleans houses for a living about my experience with the TriStar,,she had never heard of them,(always uses whatever the homeowner has) so, i showed her mine,,and she is excited and sold on getting one! (i'll make sure she dosent get swindled!) | ||
| Post# 386401 , Reply# 9 2/19/2018 at 18:46 (2,254 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
Compact are awesome
I own a Compact C9 vacuum i use enviro-care micro liner paper bag whit the cloth bag motor filter and love it never loss suction. And i even tried it for picking up dry wall dust off my carpet when i was fixing the base board woow! what a clean rug that was !! I also own a 16 gallons Shop-Vac whit the wet and dry bags cartridge filter and long hose love it so much for big jobs a shop-vac is a must! Also whit the wet/dry pick up bags(they make bags for wet and dry now) its a breeze suction is awesome whit my 24 foot hose (3 . 8 foot hose end to end ) 2-1/2 inch attachments area breeze to use .Compact Electra C9 whit paper liner cloth bag motor filter and exhaust filter are hard to beat i looove my C9!
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| Post# 386460 , Reply# 12 2/20/2018 at 18:36 (2,253 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
Not the fault of the vacuum, fault of the owner. Drywall dust mixed with water turns into a cement-like mud and like other posters said, it's also abrasive dust. This is why it's very bad to breathe it in if it gets into your lungs.
There is a reason why shop vacs were invented. I cannot tell you how many household vacuum cleaners I pluck off garbage piles on the curb or out of the reject dumpsters behind the builder's thrift store from people's home renovations that are 5 minutes from the grave from being used to suck up construction debris. One bagless vac I found had a 2" splinter of wood and a nail pierced through the cyclone filter! | ||
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