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Thread Number: 45905
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Looking to buy a full size carpet cleaner. |
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| Post# 473984 11/1/2024 at 20:22 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
For a good part of my childhood, my mom had an extremely beaten up Hoover SteamVac Ultra that I think she's had from new. According to her, it'd gone through multiple users (and abusers), and was returned to her the way it was. Pretty much all my life, the only thing that worked on it was the hose, and she despised using it. Eventually, it either completely died on her or she got too fed up with it, so either way it hit the curb. I kept the Powered Hand Tool from it, and still kind of miss it (even though I was terrified of it as a kid). She then went out and bought a Bissell Little Green Proheat spot cleaner. That has been our ONLY deep cleaner for the past few years (aside from a Dirt Devil Spot Cleaner that has horrendous suction), and now the tables are flipped. Now I'M the one who despises the carpet cleaner. So, now that we've had a 5 Y/O Pitbull in our house for almost two years, I think we're overdue for a new carpet cleaner.
Our house is almost entirely carpeted upstairs, and floored downstairs. Ever since she got rid of the SteamVac, she despises full-size carpet cleaners due to their weight. I'm thinking if I did get one, it'd live upstairs in my room most of the time, and the Little Green would live in the Laundry room. Despite this, I'd still want it to have the option for tool use. A semi-wide cleaning path would also be nice, as there's lots of somewhat open space in my upstairs. As for what machine I want to get... that's where I'm kind of lost. I want something that's obviously gonna last, but not a commercial extractor or rental for home. The problem is that I kind of don't trust the stuff in big-box retailers to be built well, as I do with their vacuums. At the same time, however, I'd prefer not to buy a used one, because it's one thing to buy a vacuum with someone else's dirt and dust in it, it's another thing to buy a carpet cleaner with someone else's grime, puke, urine, and other nasty stuff caked in it (and I think my mom would share the same sentiment, anyways). So far, the machine I think I've considered the most is the Proheat Pet Turbo, as it's the only modern Bissell to still use the Powersteamer/Proheat tooling from the late 90s and 2000s, and the Dirtlifter Power brush seems like it'd do a good job scrubbing out dirt and stuff. If anyone has any recommendations, I'd love to hear them. | ||
| Post# 473985 , Reply# 1 11/1/2024 at 21:26 by VacsofProsper (TX) | ||
Maybe this one? | ||
| Post# 473986 , Reply# 2 11/1/2024 at 21:27 by VacsofProsper (TX) | ||
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Or this one? | ||
| Post# 473993 , Reply# 3 11/2/2024 at 06:11 by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Hmm....
I don't have a ton of experience with modern consumer grade shampooers. I will say i'm distrustful of many of the bissell shampooers simply due to their complexity. I've kind of thought that if i had to purchase one it would probably be a hoover power scrub, while I know the quality has changed and it probably won't last as long as the steamvacs did I see it as a continuation of a design that worked pretty well and lasted a good while. It's not overly complicated from what i've seen either.
Of course I'd advocate for the Bissell big green but that's the style of machine you weren't looking for | ||
| Post# 473997 , Reply# 4 11/2/2024 at 10:27 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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VacsofProsper | ||
| Post# 474035 , Reply# 5 11/4/2024 at 20:21 by Kirbyman65 (USA) | ||
This one Maybe
This dirt devil looks alright, there known for producing cheaper plastic products but maybe you could take a chance.
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| Post# 474036 , Reply# 6 11/4/2024 at 20:32 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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Looks tempting... | ||
| Post# 474042 , Reply# 7 11/5/2024 at 09:18 by Kirbyman65 (USA) | ||
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In that case | ||
| Post# 474045 , Reply# 8 11/5/2024 at 11:31 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
I'd avoid a Bissell if you can, at least the one that you're thinking about. From previously working at a vacuum store, I can tell you that those machines are problematic so longevity wise would be questionable. I mean the only thing that can help make any carpet cleaner last a while is by taking the best care of them. But even if you do take the best care for it, I have seen parts that have failed which could still happen to you. Brushrolls seize up, pumps would fail, heaters can get clogged, etc. If I had to have one of those machines, I'd get one without a heater. But the only Bissells I'd ever buy that are also definitely worth getting are the Big Green and the Little Green they've been selling now for over 20 years. Of course I'm aware you're not interested in the Big Green. I agree with Devin on this one, the only upright carpet cleaner I'd ever buy today would be the Hoover PowerScrub. Much simpler and less problematic, I've had them sold under Royal during my time at a vacuum store. Not to mention TTI, at least when I was there, was easier to work with warranties. Bissell, at least when I was there, was the worst company to do warranty work.
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| Post# 474053 , Reply# 9 11/5/2024 at 19:44 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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PanasonicVac | ||
| Post# 474064 , Reply# 10 11/6/2024 at 14:38 by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
My vote would be to go for the Royal version of the Dirt Devil Platinum Force carpet extractor. It's supposed to be even better than the Hoover Steam Vac at cleaning carpets, and vac shops favor them for their reliability.
As for the Hoover SteamVac, I had a similar model to the one linked to in post #473986. That was the Hoover SteamVac Supreme, and I had the one below that, the red BOL F5805, which had a 5.9 amp motor, single brush strip and no tools. VERY reliable cleaner, and it cleaned carpets very well! I would definitely buy that one linked to if your Mom could be talked into it. The price is good, it looks virtually unused, and there's hardly anything to break down on those models. | ||
| Post# 474066 , Reply# 11 11/6/2024 at 16:04 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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kirbylux77
I thought those Platinum Force machines were discontinued years ago by tti once they dropped Royal as one of their brands. How would I be able to find one new?
I've already discussed why a SteamVac is probably out of the question, but I especially wouldn't want any of the lower-end ones with just the brush strip, due to them probably doing a lousy job at cleaning carpets. | ||
| Post# 474071 , Reply# 12 11/6/2024 at 23:13 by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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For starters, I am referring to the Royal MRY7910- link to the YouTube video on it below. Like the Hoover, you may be able to find one New Old Stock, like those 2 Hoover SteamVac machines were, or find a gently used model.
As for the Hoover SteamVac not having a brushroll or rotating brushes, I found that my Hoover SteamVac did a perfectly fine job with it's 1 stationary brush strip. Any stains I just scrubbed and pre-treated before I used the extractor. Plus, think of it this way - if professional carpet cleaners who use truck-mount carpet cleaners who come in with a hose, long wand and a carpet nozzle with no brushroll get great results without having a brushroll on their carpet nozzle, why do you think it HAS to have one to get great results? The fact that the pro's do it WITHOUT needing 1 is proof it's not absolutely necessary. And as for your Mom hating the Hoover SteamVac and being hesitant to buy another one, part of the reason why your family was so displeased with it was because you did loan it out to other people who didn't use or care for it properly, which caused it to break down. If you buy another Hoover SteamVac, you won't have any breakdowns and be satisfied with it if you don't loan it out like the previous one. CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirbylux77's LINK | ||
| Post# 474073 , Reply# 13 11/7/2024 at 08:34 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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KirbyLux77
I'd rather not have to wait for one to pop up online, and even if one did, it'd probably be used.
Also for the record, lots of professional carpet cleaners do use forms of brushes. They may not be built into the extractors' nozzles, but they do use them in the forms of other machines. I just think that having a brushroll or set of SpinScrub brushes would do a better job than doing all of the scrubbing by hand, then going over the carpet with the SV. ...That being said, my grandpa does actually have a Hoover SteamVac Supreme with a stationary brush that I have considered borrowing. That's seems like it's gonna be a last-resort solution, as I really don't want to risk breaking it, due to it being in such good shape (him and my late grandma took really good care of their machines), and because of the aformentioned lack of faith in the brush strip. Is it possible that I could convince my mom to get another SteamVac? Maybe, but that may take awhile. I'm thinking she'd be more happy with a carpet cleaner with another brand. However, I will ask her later what she thinks about getting another SteamVac just in case she's open to the idea. | ||
| Post# 474094 , Reply# 14 11/8/2024 at 13:57 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Those Royal Procisions/Dirt Devil Platinum Forces were awesome machines, I agree with Rob as I've used them before myself. In my opinion the best upright carpet cleaners that's not a Big Green or a Rug Doctor. I should've bought one from my local vacuum store over a Bissell Proheat 2X from Lowe's. I mean my Bissell was good but not even close. I won't buy a new Bissell again unless if it's a Big Green/Rug Doctor or a Little Green I mentioned earlier.
I also agree with Rob, brushrolls or brushes are not necessary for professional carpet cleaning. I don't know where you found the claim that alot of professionals uses brushes from because most members I found on Mikey's Board or Truck Mount Forums say they don't use them unless in under special circumstances but they'd go to use a Rotovac or a Zipper wand instead that doesn't use a brush. According to them it's not only a waste of time and more labor charge but they also do more damaging to the carpets by shedding fibers out. This is a perfect example of carpet that I can tell didn't get brushed yet the results came out fantastic! | ||
| Post# 474096 , Reply# 15 11/8/2024 at 14:33 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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PanasonicVac
If that's the case, then does that mean that brushrolls on vacuums are damaging to carpets?
Also, I probably should've mentioned this at the beginning of this thread, but our carpets are already extremely worn out, and are due for replacement (which is a shame, as i really like them aside from their nasty state). It's partly because we didn't and still don't deep clean them regularly (consider this a PSA I guess). Just thought I should mention that. | ||
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