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Thread Number: 45506
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Central vacuum install "pipe dream" |
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| Post# 470942 4/28/2024 at 00:06 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
Like A lot of people here, I've been captivated by central vacuums. There are a few people on my street who have or had a central vacuum installed at some point, and I wish to add my house to that list as well.
Anyways, my house is a small,2-story, cottage-esc house. I've already scoped it out, and concluded that only 2 inlets will be necessary to cover the entirety of it. My first floor is entirely wood-floored, and the upstairs is entirely carpeted. I wish to have a Vacu-Valve on the 2nd floor, and as for the first floor, I'm debating whether or not to use a Vacpan ii. Unfortunately, there are next to no reviews on it to gauge its quality, so im not sure of getting it. The kit I wish to get for it is a 30-35 foot MD Stealth kit, although I was also looking at getting a Whirlpool PN (the same one used on Kenmores) as a budget option. For the power unit, I decided on this compact OVO unit. It seems like a good pick for a house as small as mine, and one that's pretty feature rich for something that's $300 and under. Finally, the pipe layout. I want both inlets to be located at the center of their respective floors. The upstairs inlet is gonna be piped up into the attic, and down into my laundry room, where the power unit will be. The 1st floor inlet will have its piping running along the wall that the door to the laundry room is located, and then along the ceiling, and down to the power unit, which would be located on the other side of the room. I also wish to have it vented outside, so that would follow tthe ceiling until it goes out of the wall on the LR that leads outside, which is on the opposite wall of the door. So far, nothing is set stone. I'm not entirely sure if this would be a DIY project, or if I would have someone install it for me. If the ladder were to be the case, then I'd want to assist in it to ensure that it's done right (I've watched a lot on central vac install videos on YouTube, as well as the stuff on Owen Perkins' channel. Does that count as good qualification?) I'd love to hear your guy's input! | ||
| Post# 470943 , Reply# 1 4/28/2024 at 00:14 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 470944 , Reply# 2 4/28/2024 at 00:22 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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Vent. | ||
Post# 470951 , Reply# 3 4/28/2024 at 14:01 by Gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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You certainly seem like you  | ||
| Post# 470952 , Reply# 4 4/28/2024 at 14:10 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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| Post# 470956 , Reply# 5 4/28/2024 at 18:01 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
That's a good choice!
I think it'd be worth the extra if you extended the warranty. I've seen someone on YouTube with the same system as what you'd like to have and they've been really pleased so far. I do recommend venting the exhaust outside because overtime you'd have carbon dust build up in the piping which would give a rather unpleasant look, not to mention filtering outside all the other particles you'd vacuum up. You could if you wanted to use a ActiVac III muffler filter but it'd be expensive to change out and by blocking some air would run the thru-flow motor even hotter. That's one of the reasons why I'd rather have a unit like one of these Dirt Devils that has a bypass motor and a carbon filter inside. Anyways, that's my two cents.
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| Post# 470958 , Reply# 6 4/28/2024 at 19:06 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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PanasonicVac
Warranties are something that I've never really thought of much. I figure if something were to go wrong on the unit, then I could just take it to my "local" vacuum store and have it fixed there. As for venting it outside, I already said that I would (and forgot to mention that I also wanted a muffler installed on it, too). Finally, those Dirt Devil central vacs (and other "name brand" CVs like Hoovers, Eurekas, and Kenmores) have always intrigued me, as I like the idea of a company that primarily sells portable vacs selling a CV (even though the DDs are rebadged Vacuflos I think).
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| Post# 470972 , Reply# 7 4/29/2024 at 14:05 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Ah ok
Must've not noticed it. But that's good! Just make sure you have a exhaust vent to avoid bugs and everything else from getting inside, learned that the hard way from my Eureka. Warranties is one of those things that's just nice to have especially "when" they come in handy not "if" because not everything can last forever. Personally, I'd rather have a warranty because not only they help save some bucks on the parts especially a replacement unit if warranted but warranties also help companies put in reports on the track records. Gives me a better decision on buying stuff when they show by how reliable something is. Dirt Devil is indeed made by the same company that makes Vacuflo, in my opinion one of my top three recommended picks for a central vac system today but definitely the very best for warranties. They've been using the Dirt Devil brand just shortly after Royal got bought out by TTI, Dirt Devil is no longer a company today just like Eureka and Hoover. I'm not sure what the future holds with Kenmore cause Sears is expected to be gone for good. But Kenmore hadn't sold a central vac here in over 30 years. The Galaxie GA-100 today is as close to what the old Kenmores were back in the day. Anyways, here's the video I was telling you about.
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Post# 470973 , Reply# 8 4/29/2024 at 14:24 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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nicely done | ||
| Post# 470984 , Reply# 9 4/29/2024 at 21:50 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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PanasonicVac
Kenmore has actually sold a few central vac models since their old proprietary ones of the 70s. I don't know any details on them other than that they exist.
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| Post# 470985 , Reply# 10 4/29/2024 at 21:52 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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Also PanasonicVac | ||
| Post# 470986 , Reply# 11 4/29/2024 at 22:15 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 471018 , Reply# 13 5/2/2024 at 12:53 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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Ctvacman.
In all honesty, I really just like the looks of the 14' Stealth head over the other offerings from MD and Lindhaus. And yes, while it's true that my house is pretty small, I think the 14' one would work just fine. Although, now I'm wondering if the single row brushroll is gonna do a lousy job on my medium pile carpeting. However, I'm still not 100% sure if I'd even get the Stealth nozzle. I'm thinking the alternative would be to get a Whirlpool Kenmore PN, or maybe an ET-1, or maybe a Hoover Windtunnel nozzle, just to name a few other options. Whatever the case, I want a nozzle that'll be durable, quiet, and effective.
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| Post# 471019 , Reply# 14 5/2/2024 at 12:58 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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PanasonicVac | ||
| Post# 471881 , Reply# 15 6/15/2024 at 13:58 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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Some updates...
So... still not much has happened in terms of physical progress... but trust me, it's getting there. In the meantime, I still have some questions about some obstacles that I may encounter with how I decided to lay my CV out.
1. I was watching an installation video for that Hoover Hose Magic retractable hose system, and it made mention of how you shouldn't install the Hoover central vac unit that goes with it in the same room as a furnace to avoid overheating of the power unit. Is that something I'm going to have to worry about with my unit? Am I potentially going to have to move its location? 2. Do I need to check my local building codes to see if my retrofit install complies with them? 3. Am I going to have to worry about drilling holes for the pipes into load bearing walls? Will that cause problems? Here's the video I was talking about: CLICK HERE TO GO TO AmtrakSebo1997's LINK | ||
| Post# 471920 , Reply# 16 6/17/2024 at 10:18 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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Stuff I forgot to mention.
So the other day I was vacuuming with my Nacecare Henry 160, and I plugged it into the outlet in my laundry room that I had designated to be where I'd plug in the Ovo unit, and when I turned it on, the lights went dim. I'm assuming that the laundry room light is connected to that outlet on the same breaker then. The OVO unit is rated for a 15 amp breaker, and I believe that breaker is either that or 20 amps. So my question is if having the central vacuum on while something else is being used on that circut (i.e, the laundry room light, another appliance) could possibly trip the breaker?
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| Post# 471954 , Reply# 17 6/18/2024 at 21:46 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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Update:
Remember how I said that not much was made in terms of physical progress? Well, that's changed. I've acquired some clear 2 in. I.D. central vacuum piping! (Or at least I'm pretty sure it is. These came from a box of random pipes that was at a club I go to. They have a dust collection system that they use for woodworking, and I guess they used to have one that had smaller diameter tubing that they used this clear stuff with. It was kind of an impulse acquisition, but regardless, that's progress! I don't know how much of it I'll actually use with my system, but I would like to incorporate some of it into the piping that'll be in the laundry room. It kinda reminds of how Dirt Devil used to use clear windows on the suction intakes of their uprights, noting that they show you "power you can see!" I think it would super cool to be able to see the dirt being sucked up for a split-second before it goes into the power unit.
In other news, I've been once again toying around with the idea of installing a Vacpan with my system. As much as I like the idea of the Vacpan ii, I'm not keen on its look (and that's coming from a guy who doesn't typically complain about stuff like that), and not having an idea if it's a pile of junk or not. If possible, I'd like to just be able to install a normal inlet by my laundry room door, and a normal automatic dustpan in the same wall in close proximity to it, but I think that's easier said than done. Any other wall on my first floor is either an external wall, or has no good straight shot up to the attic, or to my laundry room. If there's any good solution to this, please let me know.
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