Thread Number: 44869
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Bernina 6100C Motor +(?) |
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Post# 465783 , Reply# 3   9/3/2023 at 10:17 (406 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Why not try to first replace all the air filters? Pre motor and post motor exhaust filters? In the video, it really does not sound bad at all. Maybe the motor was “asleep” for many months before you bought it and it just needs some daily exercise.
That repair shop was really dishonest about what you really need done to this vac. Stay away from him. Some of them sense a naive owner and will always try to sell you a new belt and brushroll even when you don’t need it. |
Post# 465790 , Reply# 5   9/3/2023 at 14:08 (406 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Your shop was definitely misleading. These do not have a circuit board, their top of the line models do however. If the motor runs fine but smells bad like it's burning, the armature needs to be cleaned. These motors can run for years without needing to be touched up, every 6 months is totally unnecessary and yours sounds like it's fine. I'd also clean the darker filters (there's three inside) and replace the white filter as well.
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Post# 465791 , Reply# 6   9/3/2023 at 14:17 (406 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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StanL, I agree with Eurekaprince - your dealer was trying to scam you.
I watched your video....the noise sounds normal. And there is no circuit board. If there was, there would be a slide speed control just above the bag door. Your motor does not need to be lubricated every 6 months, vacuum motors have sealed ball bearings in them on both ends that are designed to last the lifetime of the motor. What your vacuum REALLY NEEDS is to be totally stripped down, wiped down with a rag & all purpose cleaner, reassembled and new filters installed. You said that someone was helping you with cleaning recently and using the vacuum. So you don't know how they were using it and what they picked up with it. Clean EVERYTHING on the vacuum....right down to the motor, there will be a foam batting surrounding the motor to reduce noise that will trap odours there. It's not that hard to disassemble and reassemble your vacuum. In the future, if you want to avoid this dealer, the bags it needs are Panasonic U/Kenmore 5068 bags and belts are Panasonic Style U belts. All readily available online. If you can find a way to order the Bernina pre and post motor filters, then you can maintain the vacuum at home in the future and avoid ever having to visit this shop again. Good luck. |
Post# 465794 , Reply# 7   9/3/2023 at 17:06 (406 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Agree with all of the above. Don’t forget to clean the ends of the brushroll- especially if the end caps can be taken off easily. If the person using the vacuum cleaned really dirty carpets, maybe filled with wet pet hair, the shmuts can get tangled on the ends of the brush roller and may cause weird smells. A thorough cleaning of the brush roll and brush roll chamber could definitely get rid of any odd smells.
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Post# 465815 , Reply# 8   9/4/2023 at 06:29 (405 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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My Cirrus... which is almost identical to this...One time a few years ago I noticed a burning smell (very slight) but the sound was normal and the suction was there... I changed the bag because it had been a few months... changed the HEPA and it went away.. I also discovered that if the onboard tools (if not seated perfectly) can vibrate making you think it's coming from the motor...when it's just the tools vibrating (LOL) I literally went 2 years thinking my vacuum motor had an issue because of the weird sound but it was the tools. I never use the tools so they don't get moved. Anyway, in my case it was the crevice tool wasn't clicked all the way in.
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Post# 465894 , Reply# 10   9/6/2023 at 21:42 (402 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 466064 , Reply# 12   9/11/2023 at 11:40 (398 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 471806 , Reply# 14   6/11/2024 at 13:31 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 471808 , Reply# 15   6/11/2024 at 13:46 by StanL (Florida)   |   | |
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Any links to guides on how to do that? Never heard of it. |
Post# 471813 , Reply# 16   6/11/2024 at 15:36 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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This is what I use, still have it since 2017. Now if you get one of those, you'll need to downsize it so it'd fit through to reach the commutator. I used a band saw to split it in half.
www.amazon.com/Brush-Seat... Here's a video that'd give an idea of how to do it. You can clean it while the motor is running but I'd use caution. Usually that's what I'd do first before replacing the motor to see if that'd solve the sparking and burning smell problems. |
Post# 471815 , Reply# 17   6/11/2024 at 15:45 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 472080 , Reply# 21   6/24/2024 at 12:37 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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When I polish the commutator with a seating stone, I'd do it while the machine is running. I've never done it with a sand paper before but I feel like I don't need to cause my way works just fine and never had any problems afterwards. Did you wash your black filters to make sure you haven't had any new burning odors?
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Post# 472342 , Reply# 23   7/12/2024 at 11:25 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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