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Thread Number: 44553
/ Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
My Kirby 509 |
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Post# 463399 5/27/2023 at 12:56 (328 days old) by CaptChar  (Niagara Falls) |
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Now this is my latest kirby, ive recently ordered new armature bearings for this oldie, but im now at the next hurdle, do I replace the wheels with modern black ones? I think these green ones are off a D80, someone else with more knowledge of these older kirbys might wanna weigh in for what color wheels they originally had. another issue is the bag, I dont think this machine had a white bag like this, hard to tell as it fits, but there is no logo at all, what looks like a patch. part of me wants to polish this machine but another part of me also appreciates this aged look to it too, the fan it came with is intact, as is the commutator, so it has a long life after its rebuild. I plan to put LED headlights in the 519 and this 509
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| Post# 463404 , Reply# 1 5/27/2023 at 19:14 (327 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Bag might be original. It's tan kirby insigna signature with red stripes down tthe center. I'm not exactly sure what came on your being its the Canadian version.
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Post# 463411 , Reply# 2 5/28/2023 at 09:14 (327 days old) by VacMadMan (Pueblo Co.) |
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509 wheels
Adam,
The 509 came with black vulcanized rubber wheels. Picture 1 is my 509 with the original wheels. Also picture 2 is my 510 with the original bag which is the same bag as the 509. Picture 3 is my 509 with a Mike Balda bag on it. I have a set of these wheels if you give me your address I would be more then happy to send you a set for your 509. Jim | ||
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Post# 463414 , Reply# 3 5/28/2023 at 11:09 (327 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Post# 463507 , Reply# 4 6/1/2023 at 08:48 (323 days old) by VacMadMan (Pueblo Co.) |
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Post# 463512 , Reply# 5 6/1/2023 at 15:27 (322 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Thanks, as an update while im waiting for the bearings to come, ive started polishing, Im just using a dremel and some mothers mag and aluminum polish, only did the head light hood at the moment, its a huge difference from the rest of the machine
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Post# 463516 , Reply# 6 6/1/2023 at 21:27 (322 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Post# 463594 , Reply# 7 6/4/2023 at 13:10 (320 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Post# 463598 , Reply# 8 6/4/2023 at 14:16 (320 days old) by VacMadMan (Pueblo Co.) |
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I have washed these bags with success, but it depends on the overall condition of the bag. If it's to fragile or rotting out, I would shy away from it. If it's still in good condition I gently hand wash the bags and hang to dry. I turn it inside out and use a garden hose outside to remove as much of the dirt as I can before putting it in the bathtub to hand wash. That way I can lay it flat under water.
Return the bag to right side out showing logo then I use laundry detergent in warm water and go up and down the bag squeezing the rest of the dirt out. Then drain the water and fill again with clean water and repeat the process for rinsing. You can also use the shower head for rinsing. By keeping the bag flat and gently squeezing it helps not to damage the logo. Thats why I do it in the tub and not a sink. Kirby bag logos can flake and easily be damaged. Having said all that washing it may not help with the discoloring that may have been caused by sunlight exposure. | ||
| Post# 463601 , Reply# 9 6/4/2023 at 14:39 (320 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
I've never washed a bag that old, but canvas type fabrics can become stiff and fragile with age. I've had good results with Heritage and newer bags in the washing machine. I just hang them to dry in the little shed on the side of my house, where the water heater is located. It's a warm, dry environment and the bag will generally dry overnight. The only issue I had was putting the original metal emptor back on a Heritage 1HD bag. I just couldn't stretch it enough to go, so I substituted a plastic Heritage II mini emptor, which is smaller and easier to maneuver into place. Although there is no reason a G-series bag wouldn't survive the washing machine, I chose to hand wash the bag for my G3 because removing the emptor and fill tube was too much trouble and I didn't want to destroy the retaining strap. That said, the hand washing did remove a fairly obvious stain from the front of the bag.
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Post# 463604 , Reply# 10 6/4/2023 at 15:56 (319 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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actually apon further inspection, I might just replace this bag with a black bag to go with the black wheels, the bag has some fraying at the emptor seal, and a small hold in a seam in the back, given if its the original bag its held up well minus the strange patch, but you can see the brownish discoloration on the bag
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| Post# 463605 , Reply# 11 6/4/2023 at 16:16 (319 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 463628 , Reply# 12 6/5/2023 at 16:07 (318 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Post# 463745 , Reply# 13 6/10/2023 at 05:49 (314 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Still waiting on bearings to arrive, already got the rear off, and noticed the front has slight wobble in it anyways, on a side project I did make a prototype wheel from one of the ones I was sent using CAD. im going to be ordering a black bag and black cord, I know its not stock, so we're going to be going with the factory rebuild looking stock
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Post# 463870 , Reply# 14 6/15/2023 at 20:38 (308 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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So im at the tear down where I have to get the front bearing off the amature shaft, but since the rear of this bearing seems to have a flange that spaces it from the coil itself, how would I go about removing this? all i can think of is getting a larger puller out and doing it that way, I took the rear being off with a small bearing puller, too smaller for the front end.
Also im in the process of designing and remaking some of the classic series wheels as seen above is one of the prototype replica | ||
| Post# 463875 , Reply# 15 6/15/2023 at 22:37 (308 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 463904 , Reply# 16 6/16/2023 at 15:42 (307 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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| Post# 463908 , Reply# 17 6/16/2023 at 16:51 (307 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 463913 , Reply# 18 6/16/2023 at 18:24 (307 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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| Post# 463914 , Reply# 19 6/16/2023 at 19:18 (307 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 464092 , Reply# 20 6/24/2023 at 13:26 (300 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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after adjusting the brushroll and putting on a rather well used soft rubber belt the machine cleans well, can you still get the soft rubber belts for the pre-generational Kirbys ? ive been using a knurled type on my Heritage 2 without hassle yet, but ive heard from several sources id want the soft rubber belts for the older kirby to put less stress on the bearings
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| Post# 464098 , Reply# 21 6/24/2023 at 18:10 (299 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 464108 , Reply# 22 6/25/2023 at 09:35 (299 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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| Post# 464112 , Reply# 23 6/25/2023 at 15:19 (298 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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The daylight white. 1 in my 505 one in my 511 and 1 in my ds 80.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Lesinutah's LINK | ||
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Post# 464113 , Reply# 24 6/25/2023 at 15:43 (298 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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| Post# 464117 , Reply# 25 6/25/2023 at 20:10 (298 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 464120 , Reply# 26 6/26/2023 at 03:46 (298 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Post# 464122 , Reply# 27 6/26/2023 at 07:52 (298 days old) by VacMadMan (Pueblo Co.) |
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| Post# 464124 , Reply# 28 6/26/2023 at 12:26 (298 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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We upgrade with new rivets, bearings, belts etc. I like thevLED look but I get your point. The bulb in my 511 looks oem but LED last longer.
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Post# 464125 , Reply# 29 6/26/2023 at 13:22 (298 days old) by VacMadMan (Pueblo Co.) |
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Les,
I don't consider new rivets and new bearings or belts as "upgrades" just replacements to me there is a difference, but again that's just me. If you like the look of the LED's I get that it's a personal preference. The fact that they last longer is not a big deal to me, after all how much use will this vacuum see. "To each his own" Good looking 511 Les with the original bag too....nice! Jim | ||
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Post# 464127 , Reply# 30 6/26/2023 at 16:48 (297 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Post# 464128 , Reply# 31 6/26/2023 at 17:37 (297 days old) by VacMadMan (Pueblo Co.) |
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Post# 464268 , Reply# 32 7/2/2023 at 16:31 (291 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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Post# 464876 , Reply# 33 7/28/2023 at 14:48 (266 days old) by CaptChar (Niagara Falls) |
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After a month of waiting for the new cord and bag, its all here and now my 509 is rocking that factory rebuild look unoffically (still needs a polish) maybe I kinda like the weathered look on it, I also realized this Kirby handle is so old it predates the hook you can turn to take all the cord off at once
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