Thread Number: 44301  /  Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
(1987) Dirt devil broom vac model 701.
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Post# 461144   3/10/2023 at 18:18 (409 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        

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This is my dirt devil broom vac and it needs a lot of work. Broken fan, broken pulley for belt and probably a broken motor. I will try my best to get this going again.

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Post# 461146 , Reply# 1   3/10/2023 at 18:25 (409 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Great find! Those are really rare. It was the first model. I have one too. Make sure you document the model tag well for preservation, because they screwed up and used thermal sensitive carbon ink and it fades with time, and from motor heat. Mine is so faded I had to use a blacklight to read it.

Post# 461149 , Reply# 2   3/10/2023 at 19:27 (409 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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How is the belt pulley broken?
If the motor is bad, it can be swapped with the one from the handheld. Lower amperage but will still fit


Post# 461185 , Reply# 3   3/11/2023 at 16:20 (408 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
I got good news and bad news.

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Good news is that the broom vac is in the shop and the bad news is my friend said the broom vac belt shaft may be locked up. So wish me luck he gets it fixed and in operating condition.

Post# 461186 , Reply# 4   3/11/2023 at 16:22 (408 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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If someone tried to pick up something wet with it, that is not surprising. Some people used them to vacuum their deck rugs and sunrooms. Most vacuums I find have not been run in 15-30 years so not unusual to have the motor stuck.

Post# 461213 , Reply# 5   3/12/2023 at 15:15 (407 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Here's a better picture of it.

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Hope it lives longer.

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Post# 461216 , Reply# 6   3/12/2023 at 15:57 (407 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Here's a video of the unit and some of the problems it h

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Post# 461237 , Reply# 7   3/13/2023 at 00:55 (407 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

This thread on the DD broom vacuum-used to have one of these-it was a GREAT and powerful little vacuum!Could fit in areas where other dared to tread!But during a move the little vacuum got overlooked in the utility room closet.I still miss it-but haven't seen any good used ones.Bought the one I had at K-Mart.

Post# 461345 , Reply# 8   3/15/2023 at 19:24 (404 days old) by LeoMan04 (United States)        
Oh my god what the hell happened?!

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This is actually sad

Post# 461351 , Reply# 9   3/15/2023 at 20:13 (404 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Don't worry Leo.

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My friend will try his best to get it back up and running as normal and if he fails I will not give up on bringing this babe back to life.

Post# 461430 , Reply# 10   3/18/2023 at 09:19 (401 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
I was notified this machine was fixed

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I don't know if it's official but I'll keep you guys updated.

Post# 461431 , Reply# 11   3/18/2023 at 09:55 (401 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Have the same

Was in storage for 15yrs. I think the bearing is drying up from non use, as it makes a metallic chatter noise when I turn it off. Looks brand new. All told it probably has maybe 5 hours of use on it. Looks 10, condition 8.5-9. Hope you can salvage it, they're kind of fun to have around.

Post# 461438 , Reply# 12   3/18/2023 at 11:40 (401 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
SHES ALIVE!!!!

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She's fix and ready for use.

Post# 461445 , Reply# 13   3/18/2023 at 13:24 (401 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Okay there is some spark action going on

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I do smell something like burning I don't know if that's the sparks or if it hasn't been ran in a long time. My friend said they should both correct itself in the machine.

Post# 461447 , Reply# 14   3/18/2023 at 14:05 (401 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Yes the carbon brushes, if they are new and have been replaced, have to hone themselves into the motor so you might notice an ozone like smell or blue sparks. This should clear up the longer it is used. Burning rubber smell would be coming from the belt, make sure it is installed correctly and is not slipping. If the belt is OK, it can also possibly be an old smell trapped in the motor from the last owner that is finally being blown out.


Post# 461449 , Reply# 15   3/18/2023 at 14:20 (401 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Here's a video of it running.

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Bet your all happy.




Post# 461450 , Reply# 16   3/18/2023 at 16:54 (401 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Some of my friends saying it's a fire hazard.

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I don't know if it is and if it's safe to use?

Post# 461469 , Reply# 17   3/19/2023 at 08:56 (400 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
So I notice the more I use it.

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The sparks get more blue I hope that's a good sign.

Post# 461470 , Reply# 18   3/19/2023 at 09:24 (400 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
My friend got back to me and said.

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That the carbon brushes are original and aren't new. I don't know if that changes the subject.

Post# 461477 , Reply# 19   3/19/2023 at 12:12 (400 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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If they weren't put back exactly how they were removed then yes it will spark like that, their shape and the amount of gap to the commutator has changed. Depending on how often you use it and the hardness of the carbons it will probably take several hours of use to clear up.


Post# 461480 , Reply# 20   3/19/2023 at 15:46 (400 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Me and the boys ramming heads.

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This is starting to go to far.

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Post# 461481 , Reply# 21   3/19/2023 at 16:23 (400 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
I think it is probably time.

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To probably replace the motor in the broom vac. I'm sorry but at this rate it probably needs to be done.

Post# 461487 , Reply# 22   3/19/2023 at 18:16 (400 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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IMO someone that has 40 years experience would be the person to listen to.

Orange sparks indicate bad connection point to the commutator. Blue sparks indicate a short circuit in the armature or commutator coil. Green sparks indicate the motor is overheating and dying.

Many motor repair videos on youtube will give you an idea of whats going on but the basic gist is bad connection point of the commutator to brushes.






Gadiel
3 years ago
all you have to do is just clean the brushes and the mating surface so that they can contact each other properly. make sure that the brushes can slide up and down freely and that the spring or whatever pushes down on the brushes are doing so properly. "


Post# 461490 , Reply# 23   3/19/2023 at 18:31 (400 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
I'd suspect my friend would of clean it up

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But I don't know what I'll do with it yet. I mean yeah the brushes maybe dirty or uneven but I'll just use a DD 08100 handheld vac motor and fan for it. I know its not necessary but atleast the 08100 don't have sparking.

Post# 470323 , Reply# 24   3/26/2024 at 19:46 by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        

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Thinking about putting a 3 amp dirt devil handvac in my broom vac if it's possible.

Post# 470407 , Reply# 25   4/1/2024 at 12:41 by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        

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Yup, the original motor with its label saying it was made September 3, 1987.

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Post# 470733 , Reply# 26   4/17/2024 at 08:51 by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
Broom vac is back in the shop

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Dennis is gonna wire up the new motor for it, so I shouldn't see a reason for this one to arc, because the new motor doesn't arc.

Post# 470756 , Reply# 27   4/18/2024 at 20:37 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Weird

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That rug iirc was the same rug onery used on a couple royal vacuum videos.
I could be wrong but I'm just saying.
Close but not quite


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