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Thread Number: 44263
/ Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
Kirby 2C Restoration and Repairs |
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| Post# 460735 , Reply# 1 2/27/2023 at 12:25 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 460737 , Reply# 2 2/27/2023 at 12:28 by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD) | ||
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reply The carbon brushes that I have in my 2C motor are original and have not been replaced. I want to know what exactly is causing my Kirby 2C motor to run so slow. I don't know if the carbon brushes are the real issue. From Liam | ||
| Post# 460738 , Reply# 3 2/27/2023 at 12:30 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 460740 , Reply# 4 2/27/2023 at 12:31 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 460742 , Reply# 5 2/27/2023 at 12:59 by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD) | ||
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side note What do you mean by a rotor and a stator? Do you know what could be at fault if the problem is not with the carbon brushes. I looked at the carbon brushes recently and they still have plenty of carbon left on them. From Liam | ||
| Post# 460744 , Reply# 7 2/27/2023 at 16:03 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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Sounds like one of the wires on the commutator broke. If it were the field it would be acting weirdly since you got it. You will probably need a new commutator or have it rewound.
PS rotor is the part that rotates and stator is stationary coils. These are usually terms for induction motors but I use interchangeably. | ||
| Post# 460746 , Reply# 8 2/27/2023 at 16:53 by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
"Even when I tested it for 5 seconds, the same thing happened and I even noticed a burning smell coming from the motor."
that happening, plus your slow speed, on a motor this old usually that means it is something wrong with the motor windings, they might be shorting out, or just plain worn out. what you are smelling is the old dust and laquer varnish burning off the copper windings as they heat up, which is bad. it could also be coincidence or not if that when it was taken apart and then reassembled it disturbed the placement of the parts and there's not enough clearance somewhere and something is binding. have you given it fresh grease/oil and reassembled it correctly? When using old vacuums that haven't been run in decades, once they get up to operating temperature and you get all that old grease and oil hot, it will run down from wherever it has been sitting and then when it cools, it binds everything up due to it being so old or running off where its not supposed to be. it can also turn gummy and sticky and create more torque on the motor. | ||
| Post# 460750 , Reply# 9 2/27/2023 at 18:49 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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You don't understand it worked before he took it apart. What could it be but don't mention anything as it ran fine.
Get yourself a voltage meter. Learn how to use it and watch some YouTube videos and learn hoe to test the stater etc. Don't try to get coils rewound I've heard more people having issues with motors after they get them back. Get a new coil and get a new armature. The 4 amp pre 515 coil I'd what it should take. | ||
| Post# 460755 , Reply# 11 2/27/2023 at 20:34 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 460756 , Reply# 12 2/27/2023 at 20:34 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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A voltage meter watch you tube on how to test your coil and armature. This is the only way to test and find out what's wrong.
Stop telling us it's mechanically fine etc. Get the voltage meter learn to use it and test yourself because we can't do it for you. Don't reply asking questions or telling us what you have told us . Please don't reply until you did some due diligence and tested your vacuum parts yourself. Idf you don't test then stop asking questions because it's a broken record. | ||
| Post# 460778 , Reply# 14 2/28/2023 at 09:14 by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD) | ||
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side note I'm sorry if I sounded repetitive, I apologize and I'm trying to do everything I can to get my Kirby 2C motor repaired. From Sorry Liam | ||
| Post# 460781 , Reply# 15 2/28/2023 at 09:24 by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
If only I had known. About 3 weeks ago, I threw away all my vintage Kirby parts as I didn't think anyone had any interest in them and they were all pre-war Kirby switches, armatures, and field coils, gaskets, bags, etc. It seems I have this stuff for decades and no one has any interest, but as soon as I throw it all away, someone needs it.
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| Post# 460791 , Reply# 19 2/28/2023 at 14:36 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 460793 , Reply# 20 2/28/2023 at 14:48 by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
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dysonman1
That is why eBay exists. You put them up for sale and leave up until sold. It's not that hard. It shocks me you have a vacuum store and don't know how to run retail operations and outsource and branch out your market.
The reason why antique vacuums are $600 and up now is because of the fact people threw them all away. There is none left. The reason why it takes people 15 years to find parts is because there are none left. I just paid $30 for screws and $90 for a baseplate for a Miele Salsa that only came out less than a decade ago because nobody had any and the original owner I got my vac from kept those parts for himself. | ||
| Post# 460795 , Reply# 21 2/28/2023 at 14:49 by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
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| Post# 460797 , Reply# 22 2/28/2023 at 14:59 by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD) | ||
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question Are you saying Hoover300 that an armature from a Kirby 505-515 will actually fit and work in a Kirby 2C. I'm willing to give it a try. From Liam | ||
| Post# 460798 , Reply# 23 2/28/2023 at 15:14 by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 460802 , Reply# 24 2/28/2023 at 17:39 by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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| Post# 460803 , Reply# 25 2/28/2023 at 18:32 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 460808 , Reply# 27 2/28/2023 at 21:23 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 460822 , Reply# 30 3/1/2023 at 11:15 by electrolux137  (Los Angeles) |
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"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
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| Post# 460826 , Reply# 31 3/1/2023 at 13:15 by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD) | ||
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reply HaHa, I love that joke you just posted, that's so funny. You know, I might as well be a Mad Scientist, doing Frankenstein projects with restoring antique vacuum cleaners. From Liam | ||
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Post# 460829 , Reply# 32 3/1/2023 at 14:34 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Good luck with your restoration | ||
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Post# 460858 , Reply# 35 3/2/2023 at 09:11 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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As a simple matter of etiquette when posting….. You might be better off asking them directly instead of mentioning them in 3rd person on your comment. | ||
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Post# 460864 , Reply# 37 3/2/2023 at 10:56 by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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| Post# 460877 , Reply# 40 3/2/2023 at 18:38 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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