Thread Number: 44159
/ Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
Kirby model 2C help needed |
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Post# 459858 , Reply# 1   1/30/2023 at 08:35 (423 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)   |   | |
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Post# 459859 , Reply# 2   1/30/2023 at 09:26 (423 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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I tried it with a newer replacement metal handle shaft, from a 505-515, but it does not fit into the original handle fork, which is all I have. I hope to get a proper wooden shaft with the angled top and wooden handle grip soon, for my 2C. Liam |
Post# 459870 , Reply# 3   1/30/2023 at 14:38 (422 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)   |   | |
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Post# 459873 , Reply# 5   1/30/2023 at 15:22 (422 days old) by repairman (Woodridge, IL)   |   | |
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Tom Stepian is a good guy to deal with. He sold me a bag for my D80 when it was the last part to complete my D80 restoration. Here's his email: t.hondmowkirbvac01@gmail.com |
Post# 459880 , Reply# 6   1/30/2023 at 16:19 (422 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)   |   | |
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Post# 459888 , Reply# 7   1/30/2023 at 19:06 (422 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Post# 459897 , Reply# 8   1/31/2023 at 08:03 (422 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 459898 , Reply# 9   1/31/2023 at 08:07 (422 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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Do any of you have an estimate of when Thomas the Kirby collector should return, Lesinutah said he was on vacation. I don't know how long he'll be on vacation and or when he will return for me. From Liam |
Post# 459927 , Reply# 11   2/1/2023 at 12:32 (421 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 459930 , Reply# 12   2/1/2023 at 13:13 (420 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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I also have the original box of a full set of attachments for my Kirby 2C. Pictures will come soon. From Liam |
Post# 459950 , Reply# 13   2/1/2023 at 17:53 (420 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 459956 , Reply# 15   2/1/2023 at 21:22 (420 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 459960 , Reply# 17   2/1/2023 at 23:55 (420 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 460288 , Reply# 22   2/13/2023 at 16:57 (408 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Good news, Liam! I'm looking forward to photos & videos! :) Here are some photos of a Model C and Model 505 that I used to have but sold a few years ago. |
Post# 460335 , Reply# 23   2/15/2023 at 18:24 (406 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 460376 , Reply# 25   2/16/2023 at 19:58 (405 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 460498 , Reply# 27   2/21/2023 at 07:30 (401 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 460500 , Reply# 28   2/21/2023 at 09:43 (401 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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Is a 87008 Bearing the same as a 505 bearing and will a 505 bearing fit a 1C or 2C? From Liam |
Post# 460510 , Reply# 29   2/21/2023 at 15:19 (400 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 460517 , Reply# 31   2/21/2023 at 18:14 (400 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 460534 , Reply# 33   2/22/2023 at 09:52 (400 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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Are Kirby 2C bearings supposed to have washers and spacers? My 2C bearings, front and rear, do not have any washers on the rear side. Was there a washer that fitted into the groove of the rear side of each bearing, For a Kirby 2C? From Liam |
Post# 460547 , Reply# 35   2/22/2023 at 20:21 (399 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 460570 , Reply# 36   2/23/2023 at 08:01 (399 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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Thanks, will do, have a great day. From Liam |
Post# 460573 , Reply# 38   2/23/2023 at 08:36 (399 days old) by VacMadMan (Pueblo Co.)   |   | |
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The 2C did not come with 2 different size wheels they were set up the same as the Kirby C with all 4 thinner wheels. You can buy new wheels that are a very close match to the original wheels. Pictured is my 2C with two of the new wheels and two original. Picture #3 shows the original wheels. You can buy the new wheels on eBay. In picture #4 shows the new and original wheels the axle of the new wheels did need to be ground down to fit properly.
Side note: These are aftermarket parts but these are as close as you will find to the original wheels, until you can get originals ones just something to consider. CLICK HERE TO GO TO VacMadMan's LINK on eBay This post was last edited 02/23/2023 at 09:04 |
Post# 460574 , Reply# 39   2/23/2023 at 08:49 (399 days old) by repairman (Woodridge, IL)   |   | |
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I never thought of using the inner side of those wheels. They're aftermarket and I can still get them from a vac supplier. They would've replaced the rear wheels of the Classic 1CR, Omega, & Classic III. |
Post# 460575 , Reply# 40   2/23/2023 at 09:11 (399 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 460578 , Reply# 41   2/23/2023 at 09:48 (399 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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I did recently contact Thomas today, about me needing 2C wheels. I'm now waiting for a reply. Liam |
Post# 460605 , Reply# 43   2/23/2023 at 17:35 (398 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 460607 , Reply# 44   2/23/2023 at 18:33 (398 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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Here are the photos of my 2C motor currently, they are for reference. Now you can see and give me more help. Thanks From Liam |
Post# 460611 , Reply# 45   2/23/2023 at 20:31 (398 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 460621 , Reply# 46   2/24/2023 at 11:29 (398 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 460650 , Reply# 48   2/24/2023 at 20:09 (397 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 460658 , Reply# 50   2/25/2023 at 10:38 (397 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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The safety wires have positive and negative. The headlight has positive and negative. The coil has positive and negative. Connect the positives together and connect the negatives together. When you turn the power on if the headlight comes on, brush roll spins and everything that powered up powers off when you flip the switch its wired correctly.
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Post# 460659 , Reply# 51   2/25/2023 at 10:41 (397 days old) by VacuumHeaven05 (Frederick, MD)   |   | |
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Here are photos of what could be at fault. I need help on how to correctly connect all wiring to the foot switch assembly. From Liam |
Post# 460660 , Reply# 52   2/25/2023 at 11:21 (397 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 460703 , Reply# 55   2/26/2023 at 11:35 (396 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Lost at what your saying.
The two headlight wires are one positive one negative. The wires cannot connect together. The safety switch has a positive and a negative and cannot be connected together. The field coil I believe is positive and negative. You have to connect all the positive wires together on one side of the switch. The other side connect all the negative wires. If you unhook the safety switch wires altogether they are not required for the machine to run. They safety wires are when the power is on you have to engage the safety switch for the vacuum to power on. You had to have it wired correctly when the coil spun backwards. The only thing different you had to do is rotate the coil and switch what carbon brush the coils connected to that's it. I don't know what the local vac shop vacuum guy said but without doing specific things he couldn't tell for a fact it was going slower. The vacuum is 90 years old . Hook it up how it was working and leave it. If it turns on its wired right. With positive and negative wires if it's wired wrong it won't power on period. If it turns on and spins it's wired right. It's simple don't overthink it. |
Post# 460705 , Reply# 56   2/26/2023 at 11:45 (396 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Before you create Armature Flambe
If it's running slow it's either mechanical or electrical resistance Have you thought about systematically finding the problem? Does the motor spin free (meaning is something binding)? Have you tried connecting just the motor (without the safety switch, light etc.)? If the motor is OK then the problem is elsewhere in the electrical system. Did you wire the motor in series with the light? Is the problem in the safety switch? |
Post# 460708 , Reply# 59   2/26/2023 at 12:30 (396 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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