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Post# 455688   8/10/2022 at 19:00 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        

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I can’t believe I night another canister vacuum! I’m more of an upright fan…truly, yet I own
-2 Rainbows
-2 Royal Powerteams
-1 Electrolux G series
-2 Filter Queens
-1 Mighty Mite
-1 Miele. ( problematic)

Well, after not buying a vacuum in about 2 years other than
My special find suedo dream vac….I ran into an oddity at a garage sale. Checked it out. Talked them down to buy a superb condition Patriot Hybrid (P3) six wheeled machine for 1/100th it’s new price with all the attachments and couple of bags .

The wife wasn’t pleased. Haha. Smelled of dog so cleaned it all out and new bag…no more smell. I haven detailed it like I normally do with my purchase surprisingly ( to remove colored scratches on plastic ). I guess I just wanted to try it out ( since it was so cheap and in superb condition . I wouldn’t dream of ever paying DtD prices for vaccums though. Grooms really well. Bought some Hepa h10 cloth bags already but I should I have waited longer using the supplied Stormy Bags to solidify if I was gonna keep it or not for long

Opinions on these copy-cat vac from you guys?


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Post# 455692 , Reply# 1   8/10/2022 at 19:26 by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I have the same vac but perhaps a year or 2 newer based on the colour differences. I got mine in 2020. It works great, has terrific suction.

Gary


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Post# 455693 , Reply# 2   8/10/2022 at 19:28 by huskyvacs (Indiana)        

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Is that a SEBO power nozzle and Electrolux plastic wands and Rainbow tools? And a car air filter plopped on the back. lol

Post# 455701 , Reply# 3   8/10/2022 at 21:15 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        

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I was guessing it is a 2019ish model based some photos of others’ patriots. Maybe it’s not?

Post# 455720 , Reply# 4   8/11/2022 at 09:06 by dysonman1 (the county)        

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My Patriot is 20 years old this year.

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Post# 455763 , Reply# 5   8/12/2022 at 08:58 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Very nice!

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The newer patriots using the arc motors are amongst my favorite canisters. A little odd to see the ET-2 on it. I've usually seen them either with the ET-1 or a Wessel Werk EBK360.

Post# 455771 , Reply# 6   8/12/2022 at 10:19 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
The ET-1 is well proven design.

I think it’s well over 40 years old now but I’m sure improvements have been made.

Post# 455806 , Reply# 7   8/13/2022 at 13:46 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
good but overpriced

The patriot is a good vacuum, but, as with all vacuums sold door to door, it's overpriced. Sounds like you got a good deal on this one though. The Sebo power nozzle is one of the best, if not the best available.
Mike


Post# 455819 , Reply# 8   8/13/2022 at 19:21 by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I did not pay door to door prices for my Patriot. I got it for about the same price as a Miele or Sebo.

Gary


Post# 455823 , Reply# 9   8/13/2022 at 20:57 by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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The Patriot is a great TriStar clone, cleans well with great suction. However, the current model uses a non repairable single stage Ametek Advantek motor, and previous models used a Ametek double stage motor that had as much suction as a TriStar, but a shorter lifespan than the Ametek 116311 used in the TriStar CXL. In addition, it's very easy to crack the plastic body around the metal grommets in the body that hold the screws in place, don't take it apart unless absolutely necessary.

As far as using the vacuum as a daily driver, changing the open top bag is a bit messy if you use the open top bag since the bag is on a slight angle. If you're using the OEM Patriot bags, go for the closed top bag. If you use open top bags though, tip the vacuum back before opening the bag door so it's not all at the front of the bag to spill out. I converted mine to use Kenmore Q and Miele GN HEPA Cloth bags mounted right on the bag door and a cardboard rim to make the seal. Also, the Medik Aire HEPA Filter is big and you get lots of filter material, but obscenely priced. I converted mine with a extension wand from a Bissell PowerForce to use a Electrolux Guardian HEPA Filter. The tools provided are just average central vac tools, the floor brush in particular is also OEM with CycloVac central vac hose kits. The Sebo ET-1 powerhead is nice, but I personally would take the Wessel Werk EBK360 over it since it has a headlight and foot pedal for height adjustment vs having to bend down for the Sebo ET-1. The only disadvantage the EBK360 has is higher replacement brushroll costs.

I bought mine on Ebay to try out, same model Tom has. A nice machine, but I will concur with others that they are overpriced for what they are. And if the TriStar CXL was still available to buy new, I would take it hands down over the Patriot.

Rob


Post# 457445 , Reply# 10   10/16/2022 at 13:27 by MATTINLA (Burbank)        

I have the patriot 4 wheel version with Hepa filter bags and the Sebo nozzle with the idiot lights, and THAT beast captures all dust. It's annoying to set up with an archaic design of inserting/ locking the hose fitting in place being a twist and lock pinch your fingers routine did I say ANNOYING and extremely DATED. Why Patriot didn't design a quick connect hose here is a complete mystery although that would probably have been an expensive engineering job with an OEM expensive hose. IMHO No housewife will bother with a Patriot there is SO MUCH to connect together before you get going. Strictly for the propeller head-hobbyist set. Oh and that ridiculous post filter afterburner thing whatever that is, another useless improvement. All it does is block the motor exhaust burn it up, and wear it out, as far as I'm concerned.

Post# 457454 , Reply# 11   10/16/2022 at 21:27 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Hmm

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Have you considered changing the wife?
You could run type c hepa bags and they should fit the patriot.


Post# 457476 , Reply# 12   10/18/2022 at 17:52 by Thevacomaticiec (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        

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Lux type C dont fit this Les its same desing as Tristar cxl .

Post# 457479 , Reply# 13   10/19/2022 at 00:20 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Uh

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The patrio/ I owned had a 1.25 inch inlet on the lid connecting to the bag. If you buy aftermarket bags there the same as tristar but the patriot storm bags are closed top with the same size opening as type c bags.

Post# 457494 , Reply# 14   10/20/2022 at 19:50 by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Les, what brand/model of vacuum are you referring to that uses type c bags?

Rob


Post# 457502 , Reply# 15   10/20/2022 at 23:11 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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Stand corrected. If on the inside of the latch you put pvc 90 fitting you could use a type C bag. Patriot storm bags are not closed top that I assumed for some reason.

Post# 457504 , Reply# 16   10/21/2022 at 03:25 by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Les, Schoettler makes 2 bags for the Patriot - the open top Stormy Bag and the closed top bag. Only the Stormy Bag would fit the AirStorm as it doesn't have the tube on the bag door.

I actually fit my Patriot with a 1 7/8" Ridgid wet dry vac wand, cut down to size and held in place on the bag door with a spring clamp. Doing that I can fit either a Kenmore Q HEPA Cloth bag or Miele GN HEPA CLoth bag, and both will fit snug on the tube. I also had to make a cardboard rim out of a cereal box so the bag door seals to the cloth bag like it would if a bag with a collar was inside. You wouldn't be able to fit a Lux Type C HEPA Cloth bag, the hole on the Lux bag collar is too small.



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