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Thread Number: 43449
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
The new Air-Way Ultra Kleen |
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| Post# 453904 6/18/2022 at 10:56 (838 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
Just received my first order of the new Air-Way Sanitizor Ultra Kleen canister vacuum.
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| Post# 453905 , Reply# 1 6/18/2022 at 10:56 (838 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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It's an amazing machine with tons of selling features.
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| Post# 453906 , Reply# 2 6/18/2022 at 10:58 (838 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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But the real test is in the real world. So here we go with three weeks of testing in my home, with my three huge dogs. Siberian Husky/German Shepherd dogs tend to shed.
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| Post# 453907 , Reply# 3 6/18/2022 at 10:58 (838 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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It's very quiet and very powerful.
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| Post# 453908 , Reply# 4 6/18/2022 at 10:59 (838 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Love the steel brush roller with replaceable bristles and brush stiffeners. It 'walks' across the rug.
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| Post# 453909 , Reply# 5 6/18/2022 at 11:00 (838 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Bringing back an all-time champion name in vacuums.
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| Post# 453910 , Reply# 6 6/18/2022 at 11:18 (838 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Zakk approves.
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Post# 453924 , Reply# 7 6/18/2022 at 15:17 (837 days old) by luxlife  (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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Very cool! How solid does the machine feel? The under side of the power nozzle looks like a variant of the one made for the Eureka Express. | ||
| Post# 453941 , Reply# 8 6/18/2022 at 22:26 (837 days old) by cam2s (Nebraska) | ||
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Cool to see the Air Way name coming back! Odd to see it in a normal canister and not using their traditional form, but I guess that’s what you get? Who is manufacturing this vacuum? The brush is reminiscent of the VGIII/sweepngroom, but does it borrow from vacuum history elsewhere? | ||
| Post# 453957 , Reply# 9 6/19/2022 at 18:16 (836 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211) | ||
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| Post# 453962 , Reply# 10 6/20/2022 at 05:31 (836 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Herschel, back about 10 years ago, Bissell had a canister called the Bissell Momentum that looked identical to this Air Way canister. The only differences are tge hose is top mounted and different controls and foot pedals. I would bet good money it's made by KingClean and is identical internally, except for the fact the Air Way has a powerhead receptacle to power the electric hose the Bissell never had.
As far as I am concerned, NO WAY would I touch this! Chinese made junk at it's finest. I give it 5 years before virtually all parts are NLA....and that's being generous. It's also lacking refinement....no powerhead height adjustment, no hard floor brush, there should be SEPARATE tools not a combo tool, no available mini powerhead or turbo brush, cardboard bag collar when it should have plastic bag collars. And to be frank, it looks cheap and tacky. There are LOTS of better choices....the Titan/Kenmore canisters, Miele C1, Sebo K3, and Riccar Prima....in this price range. Tom, you should be ashamed of yourself for carrying this vacuum, especially considering you have REAL Air Way vacuums customers can compare this to! I will gladly take any of those choices or my Vita Vac any day over this! Rob | ||
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Post# 453964 , Reply# 11 6/20/2022 at 06:46 (836 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Why didn't AirWay stick with their METAL body canister cleaners??Those were something special.The present plastic AirWay is NOTHING special.Won't buy. | ||
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Post# 453985 , Reply# 13 6/21/2022 at 00:14 (835 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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I will continue to use my older metal AirWays-even have one of the purple ones.Also have a "Vita-Vac" that I got from a trade in pile.Still works just fine.No need to buy that plastic model. | ||
| Post# 453991 , Reply# 14 6/21/2022 at 09:25 (835 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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I carry all three Titan canisters (which used to be Kenmores), I carry the Clean Obsessed canisters - and to be frank the CO Electrolux copy is my best selling machine. It's my best selling because I push it. I have my mother's Model G sitting right next to it. I haven't used the new Air-Way long enough to have a proven track record, but it feels very well made and the fit and finish are great.
The material a bag collar is made from is immaterial to me. Electrolux, Compact, Tacony all use bags with cardboard collars. I like the fact there's no internal hose in the power nozzle. I like the fact the brushes can be replaced in the brush roll and there's brush stiffeners on one side. I like the lifetime belt. While I do not like the combo dusting tool, Air-Way has a turbo brush option and a soft dusting brush option, as well as a parquet floor tool like the Twister, so those three options are going to be a "premium" package I'll offer the customer for their trade-in vac. The thing is quiet. I made a video this past weekend of my husband using it while I filmed and commented. The way this machine picks up dog hair is very good. I'm not planning to sell it in my store until I've used at home all six bags (and the bag light MUST come on before I change the bag). Then, I'll take it apart and look for wear points. If I'm happy, I'll sell it in my store and display it next examples of over 100 years of Air-Way products which are all here in the Vacuum Museum section. It has the features that the modern canister vacuum buyer wants in a canister vacuum today. It's not about the past, it's about selling something decent that will satisfy the needs of the customer as well as stay sold and not need constant repair. | ||
| Post# 453992 , Reply# 15 6/21/2022 at 09:30 (835 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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There are three fellow collectors who have ordered one of the new machines already. And I just got it Friday.
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| Post# 454001 , Reply# 16 6/21/2022 at 12:04 (834 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
Rob
Tom can't sell either Miele, Sebo, or even Riccar. He's already explained why before on this forum. And to be honest, I don't blame him. Also, it's pretty harsh to bash on a product that they just released. You should wait for a while and try one out before you judge. And who knows, maybe this new Air-Way would be one of the new best selling canisters on the market in the future. I mean you should never say never. Especially when vacuum warehouses would start stocking up on parts so a consumer can try to keep it for a little longer than 5 years. A little off topic here but just recently I went to my local vacuum store that I used to work at to get some parts, while I was waiting my fellow coworker was selling a customer a new vacuum. There were two vacuums he was demonstrating to that buyer, a red Sebo K3 canister and a black Air-Way AW8700 upright. Guess what the customer liked better? The Air-Way. Now I know that the Air-Way wasn't a canister but say that it was a canister, would you still try to push that customer into buying the Sebo over the Air-Way? Personally if my customer liked the Air-Way canister more, I wouldn't. Just like buying a vehicle or a gun, the customer should look into of what feels the best for them. Even though they would be aware of the pros and cons of what they're looking into. Because Tom doesn't have a whole lot of powernozzle canisters to sell, I don't have a problem with him selling the Air-Way. If it works out for his store and to his customers, then great! But if not, he doesn't have to sell it anymore. Anyways, that's all I wanted to say.
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Post# 454039 , Reply# 18 6/22/2022 at 18:28 (833 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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Thanks so much for the extensive details! I wish you great success with this machine. It looks to have great potential for the American market! This post was last edited 06/22/2022 at 20:58 | ||
| Post# 454044 , Reply# 19 6/22/2022 at 22:47 (833 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Mark
You are correct, Godfrey's in Australia does indeed sell this vacuum under the Wertheim brand as the Wertheim 7 Series through their own stores. As for the Wertheim brand being a quality vacuum? Hardly! IF you had done your research, you would have found out that KingClean had previously made the Riccar Pristine for Godfrey's as a Wertheim 4410 with a DustCare PB11 powerhead that had a NuTone/Dirt Devil style powerhead powerhead hood. The Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary Edition was also sold as the Wertheim 4435, again with a restyled DustCare PB11 powerhead. Go ahead and read the reviews for those vacuums on various Australian sites - They got BLASTED for them, BIG TIME, because they ARE Chinese made junk! The reviews on those machines consistently stated they are poorly built, unreliable, and had problems with the powerhead in particular. There was also a Wertheim canister with the same powerhead sold on a home shopping channel in Britain that was a rebadged Simplicity Verve....I can only imagine how poorly the Brits thought of it compared to a Miele or Sebo.
As for your comment about the quality of the bag, since you claim to know so much, Miele's AirClean FJM and GN bags are 9 LAYER HEPA Cloth, NOT 5 layer as you stated in your post. Most aftermarket/generic Miele bags are 5 layer HEPA Cloth, though. So there goes your claim these are the "best quality available". The material even looks like it's just a ordinary Chinese HEPA Cloth bag....nothing special. The ONLY thing I will give it credit for is the bag collar....it appears to be a copy of the bag collar used on Bosch canister HEPA Cloth bags, but with the bag flap and seal like Miele uses on the AirClean collar, very interesting! Looking at the Wertheim 7 Series bag, theirs only uses a cardboard collar with a silicone seal. As for your assertion that the Riccar Prima, Titan canisters and some Miele canisters are made in China, yes that is correct. However, you forgot to mention it is ONLY the RETIRED Miele canisters and the latest Miele Boost bagless canister that are made at Miele's Dongguan, China plant. And they are made of German components formed into a body formed at the plant and assembled there. So they are not "true" Chinese vacuums, and they get positive reviews consistently. The Titan canisters are made of Chinese parts at a Chinese factory by Cleva, same as current Kenmore canisters. However, their designs are restyled Panasonic designs, from a Japanese company that has been called legendary in their own right by vac shops, same as Aerus Electrolux was, and are already sorely missed by many, including many consumers. The Riccar Prima is also a Chinese canister, but is made to the specifications specified by the parent company, Tacony Corporation. And might I remind you, before you dare try to nitpick and criticize it, that Tom Gasko, Dysonman1, the owner of the shop carrying this Air Way canister, helped in the design of the Riccar Prima and former Simplicity Wonder. I have actually seen the Prima in person once at McHardy Vacuum here in London when I picked up some bags....for a Chinese made vacuum, it is certainly above average. While I didn't like the design of the bag collar and the quality of the paper used in the HEPA filter, I might have bought one if I wasn't happy already with my Simplicity Gusto, Riccar Pizzazz and The Bank Vault canisters. If I was a normal, average consumer looking for a new vacuum, I would take a Riccar Prima hands down over the Air Way UltraKleen! I looked through the catalogue you posted a link to, and my opinion stands - the Air Way vacuums are cheap, Chinese junk. The uprights are relabeled Bernina/Prolux uprights which are cheaply built Panasonic clones. Even worse than the Cirrus brand uprights. I also find it rather funny they still have the nerve to sell the Air Way Altera and Agilus canisters....those are horrid machines! As for your assertion "Parts are available, and will be available as long as Air Way continues to order parts"....well, newsflash for ya, do you REALLY THINK the Chinese are gonna care how long some silly American or Australian company wants the parts made for? Nope! THEY will ultimately decide how long parts are available for this vacuum, NOT Air Way! The Air Way UltraKleen is being manufactured by Qinqdao Creation Industry and Commerce Co., Ltd, of China. Hardly a reputable manufacturer. Look further down on Alibaba.com, and you will see the Airway Altera and Agilus canisters, as well as the Bissell Momentum the Air Way is based on. You should also know that the vacuum is also sold in Switzerland as the Satrap Aspira, in Iran as the German brand Rugen RU-1110, and a slightly different version with a knob for the variable speed control as the Persia France. Also note that the Rugen comes with a reusable cloth bag, and the Wertheim has a optional bag saver attachment and a optional Wessel Werk turbo floor brush. So we are certainly getting ripped off for features here in North America. Alex - Even if I wanted to, I couldn't try out the Air Way, I have yet to see a Canadian vac shop distributor offer the Air Way brand yet. And I certainly wouldn't buy a Chinese vacuum that I would have no warranty on. Rob | ||
| Post# 454045 , Reply# 20 6/22/2022 at 22:57 (833 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Luxlife
"Canadian Crank" eh? Live in my Mom's basement eh? Wow, shows how little you know of some of the forum members here in REAL LIFE! My Mom, God bless her soul, has been dead since 1998. I did previously rent a basement apartment when I lived in Orillia for 3.5 years from a retired lady though. At present, I have my own apartment in downtown London, Ontario, have a wonderful partner, and a great life. Guess what, do you REALLY think I care about what a total stranger in another country thinks of me? Hah, you wish!
Next time you might care to keep your opinions about other members personal lives to yourself because now you have egg on your face. :p Rob | ||
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Post# 454055 , Reply# 21 6/23/2022 at 10:51 (833 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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| Post# 454057 , Reply# 22 6/23/2022 at 14:21 (832 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
 I always think its laughable that many collectors call Chinese manufactured machines Cheap Junk when its the USA/European companies that decide just how cheap and junk it is.
When I was in R&D I saw samples of machines from King clean that would make a Miele look like rubbish they were so well made. When you source a product from King Clean, or best clean or any of the other manufacturers you get to choose how well you want it made, you can choose the motor, the types of bearings used in the motor, the lenth of carbon brushes ( life of the motor 500 hour , 1000 hour , 2000 hour ? you decide. The hose , the diameter, the quality, the length, material Their has also never been a problem getting spares either from King clean, A problem with the distributing compmanys wanting to actually have spares Yes but spares are very much available. In Fact you can get any vacuum spares you want from China, want one hundred Hoover 652 motors, They will make them and again the quality will depend on how much you want to pay per unit. Just because its made in China doesn't make it junk.
The other day I got to drive in a Chinese suv called a Haval Jolion . They are very popular here now and let me tell you would think you were in something German not Chinese, even outside it looks very cool. My mate you traded in his Audi q5 for it said after driving it he couldn't justify the price difference between this and a New Q5. The quality is right up their with the est in the class and light years ahead of anything GM or Ford is currently making The Chinese are improving their products quality at a alarming rate automotive field, Their own in house designed vacuums cleaners are now some of the best. I still do some consulting R&D work from a SA firm that imports their own brand of vacuum cleaners and whats exciting to see now is hoe they have gone from merely copying other technology to been innovative and coming up with their own ideas | ||
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Post# 454060 , Reply# 23 6/23/2022 at 15:35 (832 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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Well said gsheen! We’re surrounded by Chinese made products and they aren’t going away. You also brought up a very good point about how the one sourcing the finished product gets to decide what caliber the final product will be. | ||
| Post# 454080 , Reply# 28 6/24/2022 at 09:23 (832 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Well:
I like the new Air-Way Ultra Kleen. I have a small 3600 square foot vacuum shop where I get to come everyday for work that I enjoy. I don't have to work for anyone else. I get to decide what brands and styles of new vacuum I want to carry. At my age, the most important thing is I sell vacuums I like. I like the Air-Way uprights because they don't give me problems. I like the Lamb motor in them. I like that I can easily fix one of them if I have to. When I've used all six disposable bags that have come with my Air-Way Ultra, as long as no problems develop along the way, I'll be happy to sell them in my store. And why not? If it can clean MY house, it can clean the houses of my customers. The folks at Air-Way (from the President to the sales rep) have all been kind and above-board with me. Unlike the 'german kenmore' reps who pissed me off. I may not be a big huge dealer selling hundreds a month but I'll throw my hat in the ring with a Company who treats me with kindness and respect. That's Air-Way.
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| Post# 454085 , Reply# 29 6/24/2022 at 16:01 (831 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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@ electromatik Should we celebrate China , No and everything you say about the country themselfs is true BUT
Sorry but you are completely wrong on the quality control. The western companies have complete control over the quality of the products they import from China. They know that its cheap , they know that because they chose it. I still do R & D for one vacuum company locally and another company that does small appliances, ( kettles, toasters ext ) We have complete control over the quality but quality comes with a price. when we test samples we will often pic up problems which is totally normal, ( our market is unique and harsch ) we will go back to them and they will always improve the product, change the bearing quality or whatever we ask. But those changes often come at a cost and this can move that product out of its intended price point, Choices are made, sometimes the product is accepted as is and we get lucky and have very low returns rates, Other times the product is completely scrapped.
As for the Jolion, have you driven one, Cause I have.
As for western manufacturing, Oh I do wish it would come back but it wont, Not soon We have not China to blame but ourselves, We shop at huge big box chain stores and Buy off amazon instead of local shops because its easier We tell young people to go to collage to get a deg they will spend half their life paying back instead of a Blue collar job because those are looked down on in society, Its our very western CEO's and upper management that move production to China because it cheaper than making it locally ( I lost my first good job because of this ) Their are more people alive today than in the years past so why cant Hoover, Eureka, Royal, Dirtdevil , sustain production in your country with more people than ever buying them. Greed
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| Post# 454087 , Reply# 30 6/24/2022 at 16:56 (831 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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I'll throw my hat in the ring with a Company who treats This is a very True statement. Like you I own a small vacuum shop, and to me its the relationships with the suppliers that really matters. Their is a Local brand that I like to sell, ( also sourced from China I often get asked why i sell this brand over Miele for example and its really simple, Spares. If it breaks , when you need a floor tool I have them, I can get them easily, 1 day order wait time, Miele never has stock, the parts cost a fortune, I have started to use this brands floor tools on the Miele because they last as long, and cost around a quater of the price, they just happe to fit which helps too.
If a customer buys a machine from me and it breaks I need to be able to sort it out asap. Its my name on the line, not the brands as I sold them the vacuum. Made in Germany means noting when I have to tell the customer sorry no stock of the part we need to fix your vacuum | ||
| Post# 454145 , Reply# 31 6/27/2022 at 16:16 (828 days old) by vaclab (Pickerington, Ohio) | ||
Went to Godfrey's Website and...
Perused their online catalog.
www.godfreys.com.au/werth... My greatest niggle is that it's a re-badged machine. Yeah, I know a lot of sellers do that, it's quite commonplace, but a name as legendary as Air-Way now being a $1299 re-badged plastic vac kinda twists me in the wrong direction. Link to the manual: www.godfreys.com.au/media... Since I'm a performance guy, the manual states: 1300W (cleaner only), 1500W (with PN) No other specs listed like suction or airflow. Tom, I'm glad you will fill up 6 bags and then partially disassemble the machine to check for weak spots. One owner did have the wand break shortly after purchase. If the U.S. price remains at $1300+, it'll have stiff competition I believe. Best of luck and let us know how your trial period turns out, Bill
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| Post# 454176 , Reply# 33 6/28/2022 at 11:37 (828 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The cord is 25 feet, which is nice compared to the cord on my Electrolux Classic.
I believe the watt figures are different on the US model, but not by much less. The bag chamber is black, making it very easy to see any escaped dust. My first bag is almost to the extremely full point but the airflow is still like new so I'll wait for the full bag light to show first before changing it. Basically, I'm treating it like a customer would and not a collector. I don't think those electric wands can be fixed, I think you just replace them. The warranty is fairly long. I noticed they were using three rivets to lock the wand necks to the aluminum wand, making it stronger than the similar Tacony wand. | ||
| Post# 454180 , Reply# 34 6/28/2022 at 15:17 (827 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Is there a parking slot for the power nozzle anywhere on the machine? I think that makes it easier when you have to stop and for storage. | ||
| Post# 454185 , Reply# 35 6/28/2022 at 15:55 (827 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Mark
I am going to address the comments you made about the bag first, as you made a separate post about them.
Ok, so the bag is 5 layers and has a "fluffy polypropylene" material like Miele uses. That DOES NOT make them as good as the Miele AirClean bags! You should also be aware that EnviroCare Technologies makes their generic GN and FJM canister bags this way, and Qualtex makes the Miele U uprights bags like this. I have used both, so can attest to their performance. Sure, they do filter the dust out of the air and keep the bag chamber clean, just as any HEPA Cloth bag does. I actually bought a pack of the EnviroCare FJM bags back in 2018, and was expecting them to perform similar to the Miele AirClean bags because of their construction. Boy was I ever wrong thinking they would!! The big difference, and what makes the Miele AirClean bag superior, IS those additional layers of bag material....even if it is thinner. Those additional filter layers allow for fine dust storage within the walls of the bag. They are literally the ONLY BAG the market that you can fill up to 3/4 full without losing hardly ANY suction or airflow. Also, the cloth bag straps inside the bag cause the dirt to bounce around inside the bag and make the ENTIRE bag material absorb the dust and dirt evenly, not just the bottom and sides of the bag as a conventional bag would. Any other HEPA Cloth bag, if the walls of the bag become clogged with dust, the only way you are going to restore suction and airflow to the cleaner using that bag is by taking it outside, giving the bag a good vigorous shake to loosen the dust from the walls of the bag, and reinstalling it in the cleaner. As far as the Air Way bag having the activated charcoal in a pouch in the bag material, they actually copied that idea from Miele. Miele introduced a bag in Europe a few years ago called the Miele HyClean 4D Smell Protect bag, which is exactly identical to the AirClean bag material, but with a pouch of activated charcoal right above the plastic bag collar. So, now the score is Miele 3 / Air Way 0. Unless you have laboratory testing that PROVES the Air Way bags can be filled to 3/4 full without a appreciable difference in the suction and airflow of the cleaner while in operation. Rob | ||
| Post# 454186 , Reply# 36 6/28/2022 at 15:56 (827 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Link to the Miele HyClean 4D Smell Protect bags on Amazon before Miele pulled them off the market:
CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirbylux77's LINK | ||
| Post# 454188 , Reply# 37 6/28/2022 at 16:36 (827 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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There are two parking spots on the back of the canister. So far, I've only parked the combination tool which has its own post for the parking slot. The wand has the same post for the other parking slot.
One of the things I think MY customers will like is how easy it pulls on carpets. Many vacuums don't. My Miele Aquarius has such small wheels they sink into the rug and you literally drag the canister. I had fun this past weekend experimenting with different power nozzles, wands, adapters and pigtail cords on the Air-Way. The hose end is 35MM, so I have adapters for that diameter. My EBK360 from the Ritello really is quite the nozzle connected to the Air-Way. | ||
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Post# 454347 , Reply# 38 7/2/2022 at 16:01 (823 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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suction motor What kind of motor is in the new Air-way? Is it a two stage motor or one of those one stage screamers? Also, what's the electric plug like on the hose? Is it standard? Converting 35 MM to 32 MM is easy, adapters are available to handle that and I have several of them. Mike | ||
| Post# 454357 , Reply# 39 7/3/2022 at 09:20 (823 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Mike, I haven’t had a chance to take it apart yet because we have not gone through all six bags that came with it. When I’m finished filling them to the top with household dirt, I’m going to take the machine apart and examine it thoroughly, including the circuitboard. I only went to sell customers a vacuum cleaner that is adorable. Not only for them, but because I don’t wanna have to fix the damn things. So far so good. I had a small Fourth of July gathering with Vacuum friends and they all took a turn trying it out.
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| Post# 454376 , Reply# 40 7/3/2022 at 15:48 (822 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Doing the dusting.
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| Post# 455283 , Reply# 41 7/29/2022 at 07:54 (797 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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It’s been two months, four bags full of dirt, threw the machine at a spider and dented a wall, took it apart twice, and I’m now perfectly satisfied this is a durable machine, and one I will be proud to sell. This is the Air-way Ultra Kleen display in my store at the present time.
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| Post# 456719 , Reply# 42 9/12/2022 at 22:22 (751 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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I actually do love it This is the kind of canister I want. Has anyone measured the emissions yet? Dysonman1, I'd be interested to buy this from you, but I think you are quite far from NC. I am afraid of damage during the shipping process, but I guess I'd have to do that anyway. Can we discuss prices privately?? | ||
| Post# 460425 , Reply# 43 2/18/2023 at 13:32 (592 days old) by Ctvacman (CT) | ||
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Any updates Has any other collector purchased one to comment on how this machine is? Who makes the power nozzle? I’ve seen what looks like the exact same nozzle on a central vac power kit. Thanks | ||
| Post# 463707 , Reply# 44 6/8/2023 at 10:34 (483 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Simplicity is now selling one.
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| Post# 464517 , Reply# 45 7/11/2023 at 23:43 (449 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) | ||
I haven't purchased one yet but I was super close to doing so. It was hard to restrict myself from opening my wallet. I think if the machine was navy blue, then I probably would have purchased it.
Quite honestly I loved it! 25' cord Long hose-- I believe 7' Very durable feeling flexible hose. Does anyone on here remember the Panasonic Jet-Flo canister wire reinforced hoses? Yes,they were wire reinforced but better flexing than just about anything else of its time. That's the feeling I got with the Airway hose, except it is crush proof and not wire reinforced. Quiet-- I mean this thing is near silent both the power head and suction unit. Variable speed-- there were 9 buttons on the canisters, I couldn't even tell you what they all were but if you can't find a setting with that machine for a cleaning task then I wish you the deepest of sympathies! LOL Parking Docks-- floor brush fits right on the back Comfortable Handles and general feel-- The canister is light to pick up but has a very solid feel. It feels like one that I could do arm curls with for a while and not worry about busting it. Very smooth carry and operator handles. Brush roll on/off right at fingertips and it's a real switch, not some electronic roll over button. Rubber wheels- power head and canister Attachments-- At first glance the combo tool and combo floor tool made me shake my head. Then I tried them... well, talk about pulling a 180. Kudos to Airway for making a combo tool that is useful. It switched amongst the three functions well and worked well for each with all a decent size. The floor tool LOOKS like some central vac floor tools that were bulky and have very stiff bristles that don't sweep well from my experiece. Well, you have to throw that thought away becuase this combo tool works!! I did quite a large area of old hardwood flooring, it grabbed pet hair, didn't snow plow, was easy to maneuver and was edge cleaning well. I have done a lot of commercial and residential cleaning over the years and if I was still doing all of that then I probably would have bought the machine and used it as a business tax write off. However, I've mostly dropped that due to covid and also how my IT career has me quite busy. But honestly, I could see the AirWay being a great for any household and for cleaning businesses. I have not seen or tried the Simplicity one in person yet. I assume it's about the same but honestly would want to compare fit and finish side by side to test whether one has made a not so easily seen improvement somewhere. Overall just a great fit and finish. I see this in my home at some point and it was really hard to keep my wallet closed on it but I've been really trying to keep my foot on the brake pedal for how many come home and how much I spend. LOL. Navy blue is my favorite color and despite the black being gorgeous, I think if the machine was navy then I might not have been able to talk myself into not taking out the credit card. hahah | ||
| Post# 471753 , Reply# 47 6/8/2024 at 11:27 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 471858 , Reply# 48 6/14/2024 at 09:05 by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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I wouldn't buy a Tacony product if my life depended on it. The Air-Way machines are just fine. I can show the history of it. No one has heard of it. And they can't shop it on Amazon. Normal people (not vac collectors) have no trouble buying the Air-Way. They will buy what I tell them to anyway. That's why they are standing in my store.
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| Post# 471860 , Reply# 49 6/14/2024 at 09:43 by EvolutionClean1 (Nampa, Idaho) | ||
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😂😂 Would you mind sharing with the class why you won't buy a Tacony product? | ||
| Post# 471863 , Reply# 50 6/14/2024 at 12:25 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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| Post# 471865 , Reply# 51 6/14/2024 at 13:46 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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The new machines aren't even real Air-Way products, I mean what they have today are just rebranded machines from Asia. That being said, I completely agree with Colby here. I think anybody who'd buy a Air-Way over a Simplicity is getting ripped off. Heck you can even buy the Simplicity off from Amazon if there's no Simplicity or even a Air-Way dealer nearby. Now don't get me wrong, I prefer the colors on the Air-Way as a collector. But clearly as a consumer it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to spend $500-800 on a different brand that's still the same machine. Not to mention Amazon and even Simplicity's websites shows reviews of their Scout Plus (so far it appears to be a decent machine), I definitely don't see that on Air-Way's website. I also still stand on buying a Cirrus or even a Tacony over any Air-Way upright, both of them are also being sold on Amazon as well for alot cheaper. If I ever wanted to pay extra on something that's still the same machine, it'd be for promotional like a breast cancer edition or like a American Flag edition such as these since today is Flag Day anyways.
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| Post# 471867 , Reply# 52 6/14/2024 at 15:02 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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| Post# 471908 , Reply# 53 6/16/2024 at 21:25 by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Airway is priced similar to its competition. I like riccar/simplicity but have a quick story.
Panasonicvac locally in utah county there's been A1 Vacuums for almost 50 years. There's a new store Vacuum direct 360(I might be off on the name but you know who I'm talking about. The owner of A1 said it took him a while to become an riccar/tacony dealer. He sold them for years. Vacuum direct has been in business less than 5 years. They now are authorized sellers. Riccar/simplicity rolled out vacuums last year. Vacuum direct got them upon release. A1 got them 2 weeks ago. A1 doesn't overcharge and there's a reason theft been in business 50 years. For taking to give an unproven entity senority is bad business. You can bad moth Airway but I'd buy an Airway from A1 before I'd buy a riccar from Vacuums direct. Tacony might have good machines but they aren't much if any better than airway. The way they did A1 dirty speaks volumes for the type of business they run You buy your tacony but I'll buy Airway because they don't screw their dealers over. Does this change your opinion on the mighty Tacony? It did for me. | ||
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