Thread Number: 43406  /  Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
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Post# 453380   6/5/2022 at 19:08 (688 days old) by Chris (WV)        

Been wanting a celebrity for a while and thinking of starting my search for one and was wondering what all it takes to rebuild the motor and powerhead? I know parts are NLA. Could generic bearings be sourced for the motor or did hoover use some special type bearing. I dont know much about vacuum motors nor have i ever or would ever try to rebuild one. I want a celebrity because as a kid i would go to my aunts house and use hers. I always thought it was a odd looking vacuum.

Post# 453391 , Reply# 1   6/6/2022 at 05:49 (688 days old) by OldCrankman (Lawrenceburg, Indiana)        
I own one

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Let me tell you, it ain't easy fixing a Hoover celebrity if you think. If you go to a antique mall, you might find one like me.

Post# 453396 , Reply# 2   6/6/2022 at 08:26 (687 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Hoover Celebrity

I have several Celebritys,some of which should need no rebuilding.Some are pictured on thread number 43284 of 5-4-22.All need to go.
Jimmy
423-268-4841


Post# 453401 , Reply# 3   6/6/2022 at 09:55 (687 days old) by Chris (WV)        
Jimmy

I saw those pictures but im looking for either a QS with a chrome top or one like pictured below but not in any specific color and it must have either quadraflex pn and a long hose. Im just not fond of the looks of the earlier celebrity tops and power nozzels.

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Post# 453403 , Reply# 4   6/6/2022 at 10:02 (687 days old) by Chris (WV)        

There's a green QS for sale locally and it looks good on the outside im just not comfortable buying it because of what coukd be going on in the inside and not having anyone close to work on it let alone find parts for it around here

Post# 453404 , Reply# 5   6/6/2022 at 10:20 (687 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)        
chris

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you may not like the looks of those old powermatic celebrities, but those are the ones you can still find parts and power nozzle motors for. the stupid quadraflex pn's the brush strips are nla just like a concept, and the parts for the QS series motors are harder to find.

if you want stuff with parts availabilty, get an older powermatic.


Post# 453406 , Reply# 6   6/6/2022 at 10:50 (687 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Chris,

Your picture is one of my favorite lids/switch/tool caddy.If you find one needing anything I have many wands/attachments,some hoses/power nozzles and a few parts machines.
Jimmy


Post# 453408 , Reply# 7   6/6/2022 at 11:26 (687 days old) by Chris (WV)        
Bnsd60m9200

Thats good to know. Maybe looks shouldnt really matter. What model would you say to stop at as far as parts avaliblility

Post# 453413 , Reply# 8   6/6/2022 at 14:04 (687 days old) by Chris (WV)        

How serviceable are the older celebrities. Say the motor bearings started to go are they regular motor bearings? Would a vac shop be able to find them? I ask all these questions because most likely it would have daily use in rotation with my 2 rainbows and 2 luxs

Post# 453416 , Reply# 9   6/6/2022 at 14:38 (687 days old) by Kloveland (Tulsa)        
Reply 3

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Celebrity in picture looks familiar !

Post# 453422 , Reply# 10   6/6/2022 at 15:58 (687 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I have a few Celebrities for sale

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I can post pics.  Or..also list in Supermarket.

 


Post# 453427 , Reply# 11   6/6/2022 at 17:27 (687 days old) by Chris (WV)        

Yes please post pictures

Post# 453458 , Reply# 12   6/7/2022 at 10:14 (686 days old) by Chris (WV)        
Jimmy

After doing some research the powermatic celebrities seem to be the way to go. Jimmy I'm eyeing up the celebrity 2 elite in one of your pics. Is that the matching pn beside it. Could you at your convenience post some pics of the main unit, pn, and the longest hose you have. In my opinion that's what makes the celebrity is the long hose. Most canister hoses today are a joke. The pics will help me decide if I want to spend the money for packing and shipping cause I know it's going to be expensive

Post# 453459 , Reply# 13   6/7/2022 at 10:23 (686 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)        

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Chris, anything hoover celebrity iv elite and older anything with a powermatic powerhead should be fine. the bearings on celebrity are serviceable. the upper is a traditional roller bearing, the lower a pain in the a$$ needle bearing. but both serviceable with grease. carbon brushes are still easily attainable, and if the powerhead motor craps out, a modern amtek filterqueen short shaft motor is a direct replacement.

the brushroll just takes convertible brushes strips, which are still widely available online


Post# 453496 , Reply# 14   6/8/2022 at 05:53 (686 days old) by Chris (WV)        
Another question

Are celebrity cord wonders known to have any problem? Ive never liked vacuums with cord winders. Sure there nice but to me it's just something else to break.

Post# 453497 , Reply# 15   6/8/2022 at 06:59 (685 days old) by Chris (WV)        

Also has anyone figured out how to use a hepa bags with these?

Post# 453501 , Reply# 16   6/8/2022 at 08:27 (685 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Celebrities

The 2 in picture are among my best and should need little if anything.Hope to get by weekend and wipe off dust and plug in.Power nozzle is original.
Hose-These should have genuine original Hoover hose but only longer hose I know of is standard commercial Celebrity hose.
Cordwinder-The best cordwinders in my experience have been Electrolux.Others can be troublesome with cord not staying in place or winding slowly or not fully.A low milage Celebrity winder with no abuse should still be good.


Post# 453505 , Reply# 17   6/8/2022 at 08:50 (685 days old) by Chris (WV)        
Thanks

I know the long commerical hose your talking about but that's not what I'm looking for. Base model celebrity came with a short hose and some even came with eureka style hose( don't want eureka style hose). I want the hose length that came with the TOL celebrities

Post# 453508 , Reply# 18   6/8/2022 at 09:42 (685 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)        

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Chris, there was only ONE standard hose length for consumer model celebrity powermatics regardless of price point. and far as eureka style hose blank. when youre talking about a nearly 50 year old machine, where those electric hoses are rare to find anymore let alone the pn, you cant be that picky. both hose blank styles function just the same.

Post# 453530 , Reply# 19   6/8/2022 at 16:31 (685 days old) by Chris (WV)        

I know I'm too picky been trying to work on that. What exactly is the standard length of the hose? To me it always seemed they where really long but i was pretty young the last time i had my hands on a celebrity.

Post# 453609 , Reply# 20   6/9/2022 at 18:01 (684 days old) by Rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
First Pictures 🥸



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Post# 453614 , Reply# 21   6/9/2022 at 18:58 (684 days old) by Chris (WV)        
Jimmy

You just made my decision that much harder. I didnt know the IV had a pn plug. Sadly i cant take both. Shipping for one is going to be outrageous. Got some thinking to do

Post# 453615 , Reply# 22   6/9/2022 at 19:31 (684 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Chris,

The Celebrity II is a model S3061-030 (-030 indicates the tool caddy) in cinnamon and regal brown according to the 1978 catalog page on this Vacuumland thread:

www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bi...

I was unable to locate specific info on the IV, but a brochure on the same thread will give you some general data.

Hopefully it will aid your decision.


Post# 453616 , Reply# 23   6/9/2022 at 19:46 (684 days old) by Paul (USA)        
1978 Celebrity II S3061-030 Commercial on YouTube

Enjoy!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO Paul's LINK


Post# 453772 , Reply# 24   6/13/2022 at 05:53 (681 days old) by Chris (WV)        
2 more questions

Does the celebrity II use foam in the bottom like the QS and what thickness is best? I don't want to reduce airflow. Also will I cause damage to the motor if I use a hepa bag cut to fit as a pre motor filter?

Post# 453916 , Reply# 25   6/18/2022 at 13:34 (675 days old) by Chris (WV)        

Does anyone have the part numbers for the celebrity II carbon brushes or needle bearing. I found a hoover needle bearing online and if it's the correct one im gonna order it if they even still have any avalible

Post# 454077 , Reply# 26   6/24/2022 at 07:06 (669 days old) by Chris (WV)        

Jimmy, any update on finding the floor brush hose and extra wands for the celebrity? I know your busy sorting vacs and with your book store but just wanted to make sure you didn't forget.

Post# 454079 , Reply# 27   6/24/2022 at 08:15 (669 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Chris,

I didn't forget the Celebrity or dozens of other things I need to do.I had an unexpected trip out of town last weekend which put me even further behind.When I get interest from collectors I do want the best here to go to new homes but I would be better off with the dumpster and scrap metal yard which I also have very little time for.If anyone nearby would want to help with vac store clean out or to market the best vacs online for a fee I would welcome the help.Hoping to find Hoover hose and parts for a few other collectors this weekend.
Jimmy
423-268-4841


Post# 454109 , Reply# 28   6/25/2022 at 23:26 (668 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
Hoover motor carbon brushes

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Will, just so you are aware, the carbon brushes used in all of these Hoover motors was just recently discontinued as of the start of 2022 by TTI. I just picked up 2 sets myself as I have a Dimension 1000. So, just a warning to anyone needing to rebuild the motor & replace those carbon brushes that you're gonna have to hunt online and in old vac shops for dealers that have stock.

Rob


Post# 454198 , Reply# 29   6/28/2022 at 23:41 (665 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Celebrity canisters are great machines.

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I presently own two but had a three up until recently. I only own the power nozzle models as brush rolls are my favorite part of the machines.

Here are some of my advice tips:

Stick to genuine Hoover H bags. The Celebrity uses a 13 Quart horseshoe shaped bag and that bag with vast surface area allows it to maintain airflow better than just about any other vacuum..upright or canister.

What you can do is use a HEPA premotor filter. On the QS series series units, the motor pulls air from sides of the housing. You can create a HEPA bag material filter to fit and put a washable foam style filter on top. I use HVAC vent register filter, cut and stapled to fit You can get packs of HVAC vent register filters from any hardware store. A 10 pack is about $4 and they are cut to fit.

Older Power nozzle-- the older/ original power nozzle used Hoover Convertible brush strips and are easy to find. Brush strips for the Quadraflex models have been NLA for many years sadly.

Muffler Foam: I used 3/4" foam cut to the shape of a large donut to fit base. Get about 1 yard of foam from Joanne Fabric and cut. You won't suffocate the machine with breathable foam.

Motor Service: Celebrity motors are serviceable from the right shop. You'd need to inquire if that shop services motors. An Electric Motor service might be best. If you ever go to upstate NY, you can look up Chris at C.S. Vacuums in Oneida, NY. He can fully rebuild that motor for you if needed.

Cord Winders: Any winder can go bad but the Celebrity ones are very very durable. Many older ones are tug and release which works great. The ones with peddles can have an issue with the brake in that the pad wears out You can actually fix that with a piece of vacuum belt glued onto the brake arm to replace the old pad Kirby or Royal knurled belts work real good for that with their extra traction.

Attachments and Wands: With exception of the curved upper wand, all other tools are compatible with Hoover canisters up to mid 2000s. Some may look different but they will fit. When Hoover introduced the Hoover Dimension series canisters they came out with tools that still used the pin lock but made them more rectangular. They also adjusted the angle on some like the upholstery nozzle as the new hose style eliminated the curved wand need, the bend for that angle was built into the hose The last production of Hoover replacement parts actually had the newer style hose end with standard Celebrity connector to the suction unit.
Any Hoover tool with raised pin locking system will fit though.

Here are some photos of mine which may help.


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