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Post# 451388   4/8/2022 at 09:55 (747 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Hi, I’m new here and just started collecting old vacuums and I just came across an old G.E. Upright that was heading to the dump, so I decided to save it .
I have tried to look for this model online but with no luck.
The model number is cvf 84a, does anybody know anything about this vacuum like the year this was produced It is a Canadian model that is going to need some work to be great again, any information would be great full.
Looking forward to restoring this unit .
Looking forward to your reply’s .
Cheers.


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Post# 451389 , Reply# 1   4/8/2022 at 10:15 (747 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Omg I love it! The Canadian GE and Premier vacs seem very few and far between, nice find!

Post# 451395 , Reply# 2   4/8/2022 at 14:22 (747 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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This is the USA version.

It belongs to my friend Charlie, a former VCCC President like myself. His machine had a bad armature, but he was able to locate a running but not pristine donor machine at a reasonable price.

At the Vacuum Collectors Convention (always in September - third weekend) this past year, our friend Michael Balda graciously did the work taking apart the motor and replacing the armature. Now Charlie's gorgeous machine runs like the day it was made. I wonder what Charlie will bring to this year's Convention? His collection is gorgeous.

That's a post-war model, and you shouldn't have any problems if you take your time. One tip, the rear bearing in the motor will come apart when you remove it, so try to keep the balls in the bearing otherwise they will roll all over your work bench.


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Post# 451399 , Reply# 3   4/8/2022 at 17:05 (747 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Thanks hoover300 and Dysonman1.
I’m am glad I was able to save this machine from heading to the dump, I forgot to add that the old guy that was throwing it out also had the accessories kit for it to, so I have posted them with the machine.
Tomorrow I am going to start the tear down and then the restoration will begin, I noticed today that the brush roll belt was not any good, are there still replacement belts out there for this? Or a substitute that would work?
Thanks for the tip on the bearings , I don’t want to be loosing anything off this machine.
The Premier is a beauty , great job!!


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Post# 451402 , Reply# 4   4/8/2022 at 18:16 (747 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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This is my first vacuum that I restored, the Kirby legend ii I bought this at a garage sale for $ 20.00, it was very oxidized and dirty from sitting in a old garage for years getting bounced around , sorry I don’t have a better pic of when I first got it.
Now looks like and runs like it did from the dealer, it was a lot of work but was worth every minute, a great vacuum!


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Post# 451404 , Reply# 5   4/8/2022 at 20:19 (747 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Great find! And with the tools too? Wow!

Post# 451410 , Reply# 6   4/9/2022 at 02:22 (746 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Nice Find!

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And having the attachments is like frosting on the cake! Wish I could find a set for mine. I have the Premier version, model PR21. It's just like Tom's, except it has a different bag. Here's a pic.
Jeff


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Post# 451427 , Reply# 7   4/9/2022 at 22:05 (746 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Hey Jeff
That’s a nice premier you have, is it a running unit? I just spent 6 hrs today restoring my GE , the motor was very dry and has not ran in years , I did a thorough cleaning inside out on it and I was able to free up the bearings and get it running, purs like a kitten now but will need new brushes the old ones very worn.
Tomorrow I’m going to give it a good polishing , but I found a hole in the nozzle that was hidden by some old tape so will have to figure out what I’m going to do with that.


Post# 451428 , Reply# 8   4/10/2022 at 01:41 (745 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Thank You!

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It ran pretty good last time I ran it, but it's been a while. The picture was taken when I first got it, and it looks better now. Also replaced the cord as the original had been cut off.
Hopefully the hole that you found is either something that can easily be fixed or in a place on the nozzle where it won't cause you any problems. Have you tried it with the attachments yet? It will be interesting to find out how well it does with them, provided that the hose doesn't leak.
Jeff


Post# 451429 , Reply# 9   4/10/2022 at 06:38 (745 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Hi Jeff
The hole is just smaller than a dime but it is in the fan housing area, looks like it sucked up a bolt or a rock and the fan grabbed it, luckily there was no damage to the fan but a bent blade which was a easy fix, all I can do for now with the hole is cover it with something until I can get someone to weld it up.
Haven’t tried the nozzles yet but will let you know on that.
I have ordered a new cord for mine cause my cord is crumbling in my hands and not safe, but have a temporary one for now to get it running.
I will have some work ahead of me with the brush roll, all the bristles are worn and some missing , so I’m going to replace the bristle plugs which looks like it won’t be a fun job.
I also will need to source out a nozzel bumper for mine if there are any out there?


Post# 451435 , Reply# 10   4/10/2022 at 08:57 (745 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)        

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A very good substitute belt to use is the belt that fits the rainbow 1690 power nozzle. It works beautifully on those old vintage motor driven brush machines, and does not put too much strain on the front bearing.

Post# 451442 , Reply# 11   4/10/2022 at 17:05 (745 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Thanks for the info on belts, I will be looking into that.
I put a Kirby belt on for now but seems a little loose but it’s enough to get the beater brush working.
Just did another 6 hrs of restoration on the vacuum should have it done up today.


Post# 451445 , Reply# 12   4/10/2022 at 18:07 (745 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Well here it is 12 hrs restore time , everything gone through inside and out, ordered new brushes for it and waiting on a new power cord, next will be the beater bar restoration .
Hands are tired time for a break, enjoy the pics!


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Post# 451451 , Reply# 13   4/10/2022 at 20:21 (745 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Any good idea’s out there on how to get the old bristles out without damaging the beater bar? There is some real good industrial strength glue that’s holding them in.
I tried a picking at it with a sharp point but with little results.


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Post# 451453 , Reply# 14   4/10/2022 at 20:48 (745 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Wow! Looks great! Where is the hole?

Post# 451454 , Reply# 15   4/10/2022 at 21:41 (745 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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It’s on the side of the fan case by the height switch, I just put a piece of heat tape over for now until I get a chance to get it welded up.

Post# 451455 , Reply# 16   4/10/2022 at 21:43 (745 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Where the bristle is missing, does the hole go into wood?
Meaning that it is a wood roll with a metal covering.

If this is the case the bristles are held in with staples.


Post# 451464 , Reply# 17   4/11/2022 at 01:18 (744 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        

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Excellent restoration job! It's absolutely beautiful!
Jeff


Post# 451465 , Reply# 18   4/11/2022 at 02:31 (744 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Thank you, it was fun restoring it.
Hey Jeff I found something interesting with the power cord that comes through the nozzle housing to power up the light on top, the cord comes through nozzle right beside the brush roll and then bends up towards light, it’s right at that bend It can touch the brush roll and wear out the housing on the power cord and expose the power wires, bit of a poor location for this wire ,a design flaw in my books it would be wise to check it out on your machine just in case it’s wearing into yours to, I found wear though on mine but was able to fix and move the cord so it wouldn’t touch.


Post# 451468 , Reply# 19   4/11/2022 at 09:20 (744 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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This is the spot I mentioned; the wire sits right beside the brush roll.

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Post# 451497 , Reply# 20   4/12/2022 at 02:18 (743 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        

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Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to check that out on mine.
Jeff


Post# 451504 , Reply# 21   4/12/2022 at 09:15 (743 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Holy Cow!

It's amazing what you've accomplished in only four days, it really looks great! Since it's your first restore job, this vac will always be special to you regardless of how many you eventually end up with, I would guess. Actually your second after the classic III. If you could pick another model to restore, what would that be?

Post# 451538 , Reply# 22   4/12/2022 at 22:09 (743 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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I think I would like to restore a 560, because I like the body lines an design but I would restore any antique vacuum the older the better , i also have the heritage ii to go along with my legend ii both great vacuums.



Post# 451539 , Reply# 23   4/12/2022 at 22:59 (743 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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This is a Hamilton beach that I’m working on, it was missing its bag when I got it but I was lucky the the bag nozzle came with it so I’m able to reproduce a bag and attach it ,I just have to make a bag for it and silk screen the logo back on it, or get lucky a find an original bag.

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Post# 451547 , Reply# 24   4/13/2022 at 08:12 (742 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Here's what the brush strip should look like on the Hamilton Beach

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Post# 451550 , Reply# 25   4/13/2022 at 10:10 (742 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Thanks bikerray
I was lucky when I bought it the brush was in good shape with little wear, but I did have to repaint the wood on it.
The only problem I have is the date of this hand vac, everywhere I look I can’t seem to find out date of manufacture , I’m thinking it’s a mid to late 40’s but I could be totally wrong, do you have any ideas on how old this unit is?


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Post# 451598 , Reply# 26   4/14/2022 at 10:33 (741 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Hamilton Beach embraced ball bearings fairly early on. I have a Hamilton Beach upright they proclaimed "ball bearing motor" on the cloth bag. It is a mid 1930's model, so I'd say your Hand Vac was 20's through mid 30's.

Post# 451618 , Reply# 27   4/14/2022 at 18:01 (741 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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If you go to ebay and search on Hamilton Beach Vacuum Cleaner there are brochures for the hand vac from 1939 thru 1950.

There is also a set of attachments for the hand vac in a stunning blue in the original box.


Post# 451648 , Reply# 28   4/15/2022 at 14:02 (740 days old) by Hornet (Canada)        

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Thanks for the year range dysonman1 this will help me out finding the proper bag for it , if not I will have to make one.
Thanks bikerray I did see the brochure’s , but I found that all pics of the hand vacs looked the same that why I was having a problem figuring out the year, but will be digging into it deeper to make sure on year made.



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