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Thread Number: 42756
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
New Member Here looking for recommendations |
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| Post# 448334 , Reply# 1 12/5/2021 at 07:53 (865 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
If you have 60% bare floors, I would recommend the highly rated Miele C3 canister vacuum with a Hepa exhaust filter and parquet floor brush. A friend of mine just bought one and she loves it. She added an air driven turbo nozzle for her low pile area rugs and it's very effective.
If your carpets are deep pile plush, get a Hoover Tempo T-Series bagged upright for the carpets and a Swiffer Sweep & Vac cordless stick vac for the bare floors. Together, these two should cost you less than $400 and you'd have a convenient pair of effective cleaners for all surfaces. | ||
| Post# 448335 , Reply# 2 12/5/2021 at 07:59 (865 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Here is a link to the Hoover upright I recommend. It's rated very good for deep carpet cleaning and exhaust filtration by Consumer Reports and has a nice long 30 foot cord.
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| Post# 448336 , Reply# 3 12/5/2021 at 08:07 (865 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Actually, the red version of Hoover's T-Series WindTunnel upright is rated as a "Best Buy" by Consumer Reports - see link below....would make a great companion cleaner for effective cleaning of carpets. The brush roll can be turned off for bare flood cleaning as well.
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| Post# 448339 , Reply# 5 12/5/2021 at 12:49 (865 days old) by kirboover (Watertown, South Dakota) | ||
Sebo Dart
Have you ever considered trying to use a SEBO Dart, it comes with their ET-1 Powerhead which has a shutoff switch for bare floors, and it comes with the parquet tool as well. EDIT: It is a little more spendy but has an extremely long warranty.
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| Post# 448370 , Reply# 6 12/6/2021 at 10:25 (864 days old) by Will77 (USA) | ||
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Yes, I’d had Sebo in mind over Miele. My only concern is the pets and that stale exhaust smell you get from some vacuums. Such as my Dyson animal stick vacuum that even after cleaning and changing filters still smells. | ||
| Post# 448373 , Reply# 7 12/6/2021 at 11:19 (864 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Will, since you are a pet owner, I would choose the Sebo Felix over the Miele C3. I just recently bought a Felix, and they are great vacuums.
One nice thing about the Sebo Felix is you can get a activated charcoal pre-motor filter for odors, but unlike Miele you do NOT have to compromise on filtration just to eliminate pet odors. The S Class filtration system Sebo uses consists of the HEPA Cloth bag and the cloth cover surrounding the body of the vacuum. With Miele, you have to choose between the standard AirClean filter included in a box of bags, the Active AirClean filter, and the HEPA AirClean filter. The Active AirClean filter is the charcoal layer and the cloth AirClean filter enclosed in a plastic frame, so you don't get quite the same as HEPA filtration. Yes, there are generic HEPA filters available for Miele canisters, but note that if you use them, you invalidate the manufacturer's warranty by using non-OEM parts. There are also generic HEPA Cloth activated charcoal bags for Miele canisters if you wanted to use them. Since you already have a Rainbow for a canister vacuum to clean under low places and for attachment use, the Felix would be ideal to have a upright for those times you want to grab a upright to use, like for quick cleanups when company is coming over. You should also look at Kirby and Oreck, as well as reconsider Hoover Windtunnel bagged uprights as Brian suggested. All 3 of these brands have the option to use HEPA Cloth activated charcoal bags, and there are also generic versions of the HEPA Cloth bags and HEPA Cloth activated charcoal bags as well. Since you are a pet owner, and would be filling and going through bags more frequently, the availability of generic bags and bag and filter costs is definitely a factor to consider. That's actually one disadvantage of the Sebo Felix, is there are generic HEPA Cloth bags available for it, but they are harder to find than some other models. Also, bear in mind that if you choose a vacuum that uses normal HEPA Cloth bags and no charcoal filter is available for it, what you can do to eliminate odors is to buy activated carbon in granular form at the pet store to make fish tank filters. When the vacuum starts to get smelly, take 2 or 3 tablespoons, put it on a flat surface and suck it up with the hose. That will quickly eliminate the bag smell. If for some reason you prefer to buy another canister over a upright, the Aerus Guardian Platinum incorporates a charcoal filter layer on the pre-motor HEPA filter, and the Riccar Prima canisters also come with a charcoal filter as standard on the higher end models and available as a option to buy for the lower end models. However, both these vacuums would have the disadvantage of generic bags being harder to find. Also, just so you know, if you want a vintage upright to collect and use, the Hoover Convertible and Hoover Elite uprights take the same Type A and Type Y HEPA Cloth activated charcoal bags. Rob | ||
| Post# 448374 , Reply# 8 12/6/2021 at 11:22 (864 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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By the way, Will, you might want to take apart and clean the cyclone assembly on your Dyson stick vacuum. I helped out a friend recently with a smelly Dyson V6, and it was the dirt built up in the cyclone assembly that was making it smelly. There are YouTube videos you can watch to help you do it yourself.
Rob | ||
| Post# 448396 , Reply# 12 12/6/2021 at 16:51 (864 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Will, first of all, let me say it's nice to hear you are open to a vintage vacuum. I will make some recommendations below for you later tonight.
However, I would STRONGLY suggest you look at the Sebo Felix and buy that first as a upright daily driver. It fits your needs well as it has a charcoal pre-motor filter for odors, and it's one of the few uprights that can take a bare floor brush and actually do bare floors well once you remove the front brush strip. In addition, it has the filtration both you and your partner require and more importantly, it's one of the few modern vacuums that is not overpriced, high quality, built to last, and actually WORTH SPENDING THE MONEY AND BUYING! Personally, I am a consumer who not only expects high quality and willing to pay for it, but DEMANDS it. I won't spend the money on garbage! And when I say I look for quality, I mean REAL QUALITY....not just vacuums that *look* like they are high quality, but really aren't or have obvious design flaws that are unacceptable for the price. The Sebo Felix is a perfect example of a vacuum that is REAL QUALITY, and worthy of the prices they ask new for them. I would suggest looking only at the Felix though, not the Sebo Dart or Karcher CV300....those are nice too, but when you factor in that you get less features, the floor brush isn't included, and they are pretty close in price to the Felix anyways, just go for the Felix. You could look at a vintage vacuum as a daily driver, but most of those choices I would recommend would be canisters. For your purposes, it would be best to look at uprights since you already have a Rainbow and the upright you add to it would balance out the times when you need a upright to use for times hauling out and setting up a canister is too much of a hassle. Also, bear in mind that parts availability would be a big reason to have 2 modern daily drivers and a few vintage vacuums that work for your needs and see only occasional use. I would not look at the Oreck Pod or any cordless stick vacuums. You will pay nearly as much as a modern upright or lower-mid range canister and get way less cleaning performance, quality and reliability for the money paid. I would also rule out cordless canisters and uprights for now....yes they are nice, but these products are still relatively new to market and needs time to mature and improve their performance and reliability. Rob | ||
| Post# 448444 , Reply# 14 12/7/2021 at 14:22 (863 days old) by kirboover (Watertown, South Dakota) | ||
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Vintage Units
Most all vintage units have had HEPA bags developed for them like kirby, hoover, electrolux,tri-star/compact, etc. My personal recommendation would be either a G3-Sentria Kirby (with self propel and great filtration aligned with amazing carpet cleaning capability.) Or an old hoover convertible with a top fill bag setup. These machines are great due to their power, ease of use , great airflow, and cleaning ability (especially w/attachments). Not to mention it is easy to get bags, belts, etc. for both.
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| Post# 448502 , Reply# 15 12/8/2021 at 14:27 (862 days old) by kirboover (Watertown, South Dakota) | ||
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RE: Will77
Riccar is a great brand, and they offer many great options. I would recommend the R25 Deluxe or Premium for your price range, but I would take the premium. They both have easy-to-change HEPA bags and great allergen filtration, as well as a low-speed brush and brush-off mode for bare floors. Though all 3 R25 Series Machines are great, they just (understandably) Get better with more money. But that is economics. EDIT: I forgot to mention that the R25 P comes with the optical dirt sensor headlight (lit when the carpet is dirty) and the Fur-B-Gone pet hair tool which picks hair up like nothing else and goes great with the 13-foot hose on the machine.
All the Best, Avery CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirboover's LINK | ||
| Post# 448530 , Reply# 16 12/9/2021 at 15:19 (861 days old) by Will77 (USA) | ||
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the Simplicity Symmetry as an upright vacuum for hardwood floors and carpet? I ask because there’s one at my local goodwill for $10. Would this be a worthwhile purchase? | ||
| Post# 448532 , Reply# 17 12/9/2021 at 15:58 (861 days old) by kansasking (Midwest) | ||
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Can't go wrong for $10 You can always try it and if it doesn't fit your needs, give it back. At a minimum it should be really good on carpets. | ||
| Post# 448580 , Reply# 19 12/11/2021 at 19:05 (859 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
I'd have to agree with the others, a Felix or Dart would be a good choice, pair it with a power nozzle for the carpets and a hard floor tool for the floors. I generally think the Miele canisters with one of their two higher end power nozzles clean better than Sebo products but there isn't too significant a difference. It seems like Sebo bags are generally less expensive compared to Miele bags, this may allow you to change the bag more frequently which can help with odors.
I haven't been too impressed by Tacony products (Riccar, Simplicity, etc.). Used for a good price they're good machines but brand new they are overpriced for what you get. $10 is good for the Symmetry but I wouldn't want to use it for hard floors. That being said, I am a fan of the cordless Riccar SupraLite/Simplicity Freedom but they seem overpriced, you'd get more for your money with a Sebo. I also would avoid TTI generally; Oreck products seem OK still but I have not had good luck with any newer Hoover machines sadly. The bagged T Series might be OK but I wouldn't expect much in terms of longevity compared to the other machines you are considering. If you are considering a vintage machine then I would keep an eye out for an old Electrolux/Aerus. They always had good filtration for their time and replacement bags are very cheap and readily available. The Discovery style upright is good for carpets, it's alright on hard floors but I'd prefer to use a canister for them. The canisters were all great as well but I'd probably avoid the Renaissance model, the hose handle is known for failing because they had a somewhat complex control pad (keeping in mind those machines are 25 years old by now so failure is not surprising). I believe HEPA bags are available for them but I have never had an issue with good quality 4 ply paper bags, they are one of the few machines that I don't mind using paper bags in. I almost never find used Electrolux machines with dust inside the bag compartment. If you decide on a canister then the Filter Queen is worth a look as mentioned before, I have a soft spot for them but I know a lot of people dislike them. They filter the air well and I have never had an issue with odors but they can be messy to empty. It honestly isn't bad, I remove the motor unit leaving the filter cone in the container and I wrap a trash bag over the top before flipping the whole bin upside down. The bin is so large that this doesn't need to be done very often at all. | ||
| Post# 448665 , Reply# 21 12/16/2021 at 00:01 (855 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 448667 , Reply# 22 12/16/2021 at 07:57 (854 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 448680 , Reply# 24 12/16/2021 at 16:51 (854 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Yes they are. You can either look for them at you local Lindhaus dealer, online like oregoncityvacuum.com, or you can contact LINDHAUS USA at info@lindhaus.com
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| Post# 448682 , Reply# 25 12/16/2021 at 20:45 (854 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
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The Lindhaus would be a good option too for sure!! Might be the best option, I haven't used one personally but I have heard great things.
If you do consider an Aerus/Electrolux then any of the Discovery style uprights (L shaped floor nozzle, like the one to the left in my profile picture) would do a decent enough job on hard floors for quick pickups but I wouldn't want one as a primary cleaner for hard floors. The canisters would be better for that purpose. The uprights like the Felix and Linhaus are ideal because of the ability to swap floor tools like a canister. | ||
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