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Thread Number: 42739
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
What vacuums are you hoping would come out in 2022? |
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| Post# 448278 12/2/2021 at 19:24 (872 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
Each year I would always wish and hope that some companies would release something that's new, exciting, or even better than what their predecessor model(s) would be and so I'm curious to hear of what everyone is hoping would come out for next year in 2022. As for me? I'm wishing and hoping that TTI would resurrect their Royal UR32200PC (Oreck) lightweight bagged upright and rebrand it as the Dirt Devil. I would love to have the Dirt Devil brand re-enter the bagged market again and I think this would be a perfect candidate for a cheap bagged vacuum since Dirt Devil is known to be the cheaper household vacuum brand of TTI. I also would love if TTI could make this red instead of blue like the Royal version or at least make it black and put the red colored decals with white lettering logos on it like what H-P Products would do for Dirt Devil's central vac power units.
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| Post# 448285 , Reply# 1 12/3/2021 at 05:30 (872 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 448290 , Reply# 2 12/3/2021 at 11:55 (871 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 448293 , Reply# 3 12/3/2021 at 16:50 (871 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Hey that's a great name for the Dirt Devil clone of the Oreck, the Featherlite:) Cause afterall Orecks are known to be very light so I would think that'd be perfect for it! But as far as a redesigned bagged Dirt Devil would go, I have a hard time seeing that happening. It would be more costly, time consuming, and likely of a waste to design something new versus just picking something out that they already have in production and rebrand it. It's also something to test out for a short period of time to see of how well it would go. If lots of people would buy it, then they would continue on selling. But if not, then they can move on and stick with their bagless line since that's what most people would buy today are bagless vacuums. And what would David Oreck think? I would think he'd be over it already since both Hoover and Royal have rebranded the Orecks, it's not like they would ever get rid of his designs that made Oreck so famous. Anyways that's just my opinion.
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| Post# 448347 , Reply# 5 12/5/2021 at 17:30 (869 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
As I’ve written once before, I hope Miele or Sebo or Electrolux or one of the other European manufacturers comes out with a very quiet Oreck clone that has high filtration, long cord and a second motor for the brushroll so it can be turned off for cleaning bare floors. No tools needed, just a really quiet Oreck clone for deep carpets and bare floors.
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| Post# 448789 , Reply# 9 12/23/2021 at 19:04 (851 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Luxlife, I agree with you that odour control definitely needs improvement in today's vacuums. You're not going to convince someone to buy a bagged vacuum if it develops a bad smell from picking up stuff like dog or cat hair.
However, ionization is not a good solution besides charcoal filtration and using fragrances. The problem is ionizers produce ozone - bad idea! Whenever I am asked about air purifiers, I always tell anyone not to buy purifiers that use ionization or use metal collection plates instead of HEPA or ULPA filters with a charcoal pre filter for this reason. Even if it does eliminate or reduce odours from the vacuum, the artificial oxygen that ionization produces, plus the byproducts left in the air, cause harmful side effects to human health long term. I am sure Health Canada and the FDA would nix the idea of vacuums using ionization real quick! As for Aura producing their vacuum with ionization, I would imagine the FDA will pull it off the market once they are made aware of it. And I am totally dumbfounded of how companies like Aerus Electrolux can even be legally allowed to sell air purifiers with such technology....I doubt it will last for much longer. What I can see being developed as a solution to vacuums producing bad odour is more bags and filters being manufactured with chemicals applied to the fabric that resist bacteria and odours forming or kills them entirely on contact. Or, like charcoal bags, the bag or filter would have a specialized fabric layer that does not allow the bacteria responsible for odours to form in the first place. Another idea would be to see specialized types of plastic used for vacuums that resists the bacteria responsible for odours, this would take it 1 step further than some brands (like Bissell) that treat the plastic with a chemical like Microban to resist bacteria and odours but eventually wears off. Rob | ||
Post# 448803 , Reply# 10 12/24/2021 at 16:48 (850 days old) by KirbyCollector  (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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I second Juju93 on this. 
I am more than ready for an all new Kirby Model to hit the market. They haven’t really changed the machines since 1990 minus a few small changes here and there. It’s time they introduced something new. The G series is perfectly fine and I like them. But it’s getting repetitive. I know they designed an all new machine in the early 2000s and it was slated to be put into production in the early 2010s I believe. I think it was going to bear the Avalir name. But they ended up scrapping the design for reasons I do not know. Hopefully something new comes out soon. Maybe right lane industries will make changes? Who knows.
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| Post# 448812 , Reply# 12 12/25/2021 at 10:43 (850 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
I agree on bags - I'm tired of changing a bag and then the second time I go to use it already stinks!
Also would like to see more canisters - but being in the United States I expect that will stay a more niche market for Aerus, Miele, Tristar, maybe Oreck, Dyson and the like. Hoover and TTI don't seem interested in canister market here. | ||
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Post# 448840 , Reply# 13 12/26/2021 at 14:27 (848 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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@kirbylux77. I'll add a little here about ozone. I used to be in sales for ionization and ozone purifers....the ozone is NOT harmful when produced BELOW 50ppm (parts per million), they are very effective. I use my machines regularly even today ( getting rid of odors from cooking, cigars, stale closets etc). The ozone machines that apartment buildings (after tenants) and environmental cleanup companies ...are NOT safe to use with people in the rooms. THAT is where the reputation of them not being safe comes from. enjoy
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Post# 448848 , Reply# 14 12/26/2021 at 19:39 (848 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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Thank you very much rivstg1 for that clarification on ozone! I just knew that someone like yourself would have a concise answer to offer a proper perspective on ozone. This post was last edited 12/26/2021 at 20:07 | ||
| Post# 448863 , Reply# 16 12/28/2021 at 08:33 (847 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller) | ||
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Maybe they could finally just make the perfect vacuum in 2022? | ||
| Post# 448875 , Reply# 17 12/28/2021 at 12:09 (846 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 448876 , Reply# 18 12/28/2021 at 12:37 (846 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 448918 , Reply# 20 12/30/2021 at 10:35 (845 days old) by jscarlato (Clairton, PA) | ||
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The metal Royal uprights were a valid competitor to Kirby. I have several, and my 8300 model sucks up what's on the carpet, in the carpet, and under the carpet. I like them just as much as my Kirbys. It's a shame that TTi took over Royals and discontinued them. | ||
| Post# 448960 , Reply# 22 12/31/2021 at 10:36 (844 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 448994 , Reply# 23 1/1/2022 at 15:10 (842 days old) by thatwasherguy (Kentucky ) | ||
I’d like to see a few things. The first would be for Numatic to make an upright vacuum. It would also be nice if they introduced a canister with a power nozzle like the Henry hound had. I feel that either one of these products would make them sell better here in the U.S. Another thing I’d like to see would be a Sebo X or G series upright with the ability to turn off the brush roller. Last but certainly not least, I would love it if Aerus Electrolux would reintroduce a metal bodied canister like the 1205, but with a more powerful modern motor.
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Post# 449018 , Reply# 24 1/3/2022 at 02:41 (841 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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This may be a controversial thing to mention…
But I’ve heard from several different sources that say they caught wind of some kind of all new Kirby model mentioned by some Kirby Reps recently. I don’t know if this is true or not, and I’m not going to take any of it seriously until further notice. But I just thought it was interesting to hear this nonetheless.
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| Post# 449019 , Reply# 25 1/3/2022 at 06:14 (841 days old) by KirbyG6 (York) | ||
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Post# 449117 , Reply# 26 1/7/2022 at 13:54 (836 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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| Post# 449122 , Reply# 27 1/7/2022 at 16:15 (836 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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Post# 449128 , Reply# 30 1/7/2022 at 22:22 (836 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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Juju93
All I’ve heard is that it’ll be an all new model that will be different than the G series. That it’ll be what the next several models in the coming years will be based off of. I’ve also read something about there being long lasting cogged belts and such. If all this is indeed true, I’m very interested to see how it’ll be.
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| Post# 449132 , Reply# 31 1/8/2022 at 10:25 (836 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
Interesting! Although yikes about the cogged belts, jam the roller once even for a couple seconds and either the motor jams up or the belt is destroyed. I'd like to see something like Kenmore's powerhead belts, which have vertical grooves. That way if it jams, it will take a lot longer to burn out than a flat one.
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| Post# 449137 , Reply# 33 1/8/2022 at 23:44 (835 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
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| Post# 449139 , Reply# 34 1/9/2022 at 06:35 (835 days old) by Juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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Interesting. Now im curious to when they’ll launch this supposedly new model. I say that because avalir 2 (really sentria 4) has been out for almost 4 years now. I believe next month will mark the 4 year anniversary. I also do wonder how Kirby plans on launching this new model. | ||
| Post# 449146 , Reply# 35 1/9/2022 at 14:57 (834 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 449169 , Reply# 38 1/10/2022 at 17:59 (833 days old) by juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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@KirbyCollector Does your sources have some sort of social media so i can follow them to see when they'll launch it? Also do they have a general idea of when this new model will launch? | ||
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Post# 449170 , Reply# 39 1/10/2022 at 18:36 (833 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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Post# 449171 , Reply# 40 1/10/2022 at 20:12 (833 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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Or….. We can all just sit on our hands and wait patiently…. There’s nothing worse than no “spoiler alert” over a newly anticipated vacuum model. This post was last edited 01/10/2022 at 20:30 | ||
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Post# 449173 , Reply# 41 1/10/2022 at 21:21 (833 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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| Post# 449183 , Reply# 43 1/11/2022 at 12:49 (832 days old) by juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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does anyone in that facebook group actually work for kirby. Another thing Id like to see this year but from Rexair is a redesign rainjet. Potentially motorized, with a spinning brush and a bigger solution container for both the minijet and rainjet. | ||
| Post# 449199 , Reply# 44 1/12/2022 at 09:22 (832 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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With Warren Buffet ditching Kirby and the door to door sales method, I'll bet real money there is No New Kirby coming out. Where would the millions and millions of dollars to tool up for a new model come from? They can barely sell the ones they have now. Your doorbell rings and two masked strangers are standing on your porch in the middle of a terrible pandemic, wanting entrance to your home and access to your family. To sell you an overpriced dud of a vacuum cleaner. WAY overpriced dud. Who allows that today?
Most people who clean their homes today want a cordless stick vac they hang on the wall. "Old fashioned" machines and cleaning ideas are long dead. Young and old alike want light weight stick vacs. Just ask them. That's what they're buying. | ||
| Post# 449201 , Reply# 46 1/12/2022 at 10:41 (832 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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Post# 449207 , Reply# 47 1/12/2022 at 11:52 (831 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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Kirby and low furniture…. It still won’t reach under the bed even after all the innovations and model changes. | ||
| Post# 449212 , Reply# 48 1/12/2022 at 14:09 (831 days old) by Juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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I mean if they keep the G series that’s fine (not really). But change somethings up on it, that way it doesn’t keep looking like a recolored sentria. By that I mean change the shape of the belt lifter and change the headlight hood. | ||
| Post# 449213 , Reply# 49 1/12/2022 at 14:34 (831 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Just some things that I'd like to add
Reply #8, I also agree with you as well. Hopefully we'd see an upgrade with settling down odors coming out of bagged portable vacuums (That's usually not a problem with central vacuums). I love certain vacuums like the Hoover Concept Two or the Royal Everlast 8300 for example that uses scent doors that makes the vacuums smell fresh as you're vacuuming. I also like the scent tabs that you can always swap out for another when they wear out like the Oreck ones for example. And I did liked the smell of Febreze bags, but unfortunately I find that not only the smell doesn't last for very long but also the bags filter terribly as well.
Reply #23, actually NaceCare did used to distribute some upright vacuums here before. It looks like they don't anymore or at least not now. Not to mention that they even used to use Sebo powerheads before as well or at least not now either. This is what one of their upright vacuums looks like: www.amazon.com/NaceCare-M... And finally, I think I agree with Tom here. I don't think a new Kirby would come anytime soon. Plus, I'm totally alright with the current Kirby design. I honestly don't think that they need to change anytime soon. And with reviews like these, I think the Avalir 2 still meets up with today's standards that consumers would like to have from a vacuum cleaner. Though if there's one thing that I'd like to see Kirby do, I hope that they can bring back the Vacuette handheld vacuum. | ||
| Post# 449243 , Reply# 51 1/13/2022 at 18:50 (830 days old) by O0John0O (North Carolina) | ||
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I’d like to see an American company make a Miele quality vacuum at a price Europeans pay for their Mieles. As Americans, pay a hefty price for a Miele. Much more than Europeans do. It be nice if American company could offer the same. | ||
| Post# 449399 , Reply# 52 1/20/2022 at 19:27 (823 days old) by juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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Any word on this supposably new kirby? Also I looked through the fb group to see where it was mentioned and I couldn't find out whom was posting about it. | ||
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Post# 449411 , Reply# 53 1/21/2022 at 09:22 (823 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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One of my sources
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| Post# 449412 , Reply# 54 1/21/2022 at 11:25 (822 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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Post# 449418 , Reply# 56 1/21/2022 at 14:26 (822 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa) |
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RE: NEW KIRBY | ||
| Post# 449419 , Reply# 57 1/21/2022 at 15:07 (822 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 449429 , Reply# 58 1/21/2022 at 16:43 (822 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Reply #19
I definitely would like to see Bissell sell the BG1000 under the Sanitaire brand. Sanitaire used to have Aerus make the SC6600 and SC6610 for them, I thought it was a business mistake to discontinue them because they were in my opinion one of the best Sanitaires ever sold. But now that Bissell sells the clone of the Aerus under the Big Green commercial line, I hope they would also get to sell it under the Sanitaire brand as well.
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Post# 449438 , Reply# 60 1/21/2022 at 20:02 (822 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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Saw this today:
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Post# 449441 , Reply# 62 1/21/2022 at 21:36 (822 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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My mistake | ||
| Post# 449443 , Reply# 63 1/21/2022 at 22:11 (822 days old) by juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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And this is the group i can i find the details about this supposably new model and whom to ask questions about/ Cause I sure do have questions. | ||
| Post# 449446 , Reply# 64 1/22/2022 at 02:56 (822 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 449448 , Reply# 65 1/22/2022 at 09:17 (822 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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There's no new Kirby coming down the line. With the sale to Right Lane Industries, there's no millions of dollars for research as well as dies and tooling up for a new model. Never happen. I worked for Tacony for a decade and I see how long and what it takes to launch any new model. Besides, if you look at the patent for the "new" kirby, they let it expire due to non-payment of the yearly renewal fee.
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| Post# 449450 , Reply# 66 1/22/2022 at 11:46 (821 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 449456 , Reply# 67 1/22/2022 at 15:47 (821 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 449457 , Reply# 68 1/22/2022 at 16:21 (821 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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Post# 449463 , Reply# 69 1/22/2022 at 17:41 (821 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA) |
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What happens, happens… | ||
| Post# 449901 , Reply# 71 2/5/2022 at 22:29 (807 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Regarding my first post on here...
If TTI still has the design, tooling, and moldings. I would hope they would bring back either the Hoover Platinum Collection UH30010COM/Royal Pro-Series UR30095 or the Hoover Clean & Light U4707/ Royal Lightweight Upright RY6400, and just slap the Dirt Devil name/colors on them. In my opinion I think they're better than some Orecks that I've used before. They also would get more competitive to some other lightweight uprights that are on the market today. And probably would make David Oreck feel a little better about not having the Dirt Devil brand on his Orecks lol. Anyways, just a thought.
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Post# 449902 , Reply# 72 2/6/2022 at 00:02 (807 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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BRING BACK ROYAL METAL UPRIGHTS!!!!! | ||
| Post# 449925 , Reply# 73 2/6/2022 at 23:15 (806 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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YES!
I would love for TTI to bring back those classic metal uprights:) Whether it's under the Hoover Commercial, Oreck Commercial, or even if TTI creates the Dirt Devil Commercial line. I would prefer them to be under the Dirt Devil brand since it's technically Royal's sister brand. Though I don't think they would revive the Royal brand again, I doubt it's a popular brand nowadays.
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Post# 449934 , Reply# 74 2/7/2022 at 11:18 (806 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I doubt TTI will ever bring anything BACK! | ||
| Post# 450491 , Reply# 75 3/2/2022 at 19:41 (782 days old) by juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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its March..... And you all know what that means. potientally a new dyson cordless around the corner, since they launch those typically in March. And just 3 months till this "new kirby" we might be getting. | ||
| Post# 450537 , Reply# 76 3/5/2022 at 14:29 (779 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
As a Huge fan of upright vacuums I must admit that their is nothing I am really looking forward to.
Firstly Here in South Africa our market is cylinder ( canister ) and cordless based. We get very few uprights, outside sebo, kirby and vorwerk their are 2 on our market. Dyson is now completly cordless in our market and while I love my v11 I still prefer a plug in upright vacuum. I have to say that the current vacuum market does not bring any excitement to me any more. I dont even know when I last walked down the vacuum isle at a shop. I saw the nex sebo x7 yesterday and while I am sure its very good ( I have a x4 as my daily at home ) I can see no reason for uprgading from my x4. They even look the same almost ( aside from the headlight ) but it has a less powerful motor. Its kind of like looking at the new Toyota Camry over the old one , Yawn Why bother upgrading its never going to break down. A new Kirby would be nice to see if its acually new and not a re colored version of a 30 year old design, I seem to think that Kirbys chief engineer used to work at Buick, Think Century 83 to 95 | ||
| Post# 450549 , Reply# 77 3/5/2022 at 21:58 (779 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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Good to hear from you Gareth! I always find it interesting how here in the US, it's the opposite, while cordless vacs are also very common here, uprights (or at least traditional uprights along with crossover type vacs like Shark style) are far more common than cylinder/canisters. I wouldn't say canisters are totally unheard of, but in a typical department store retail/big box environment, they are rarely seen.
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| Post# 458475 , Reply# 78 12/9/2022 at 00:23 (501 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Well, unfortunately I didn't get to see my wish(s) come true this year. And I even highly doubt that'll ever happen, at least not anytime soon. However though, I was very excited to see Bissell step up and release their new dual motor commercial uprights that are made by Lindhaus, I like them better than their predecessor models. And, I was very excited to see the new Karcher Ranger upright that's made by Sebo. Anyways, for next year I'm going to make another wish and this one is for sure going to be granted because it's expected to come out soon. John the CEO from SEBO America confirmed to me that Sebo will be showing off their own version of the Karcher Ranger at the VDTA convention in April and should be shipped out to dealers by May. I'd like to add both the Sebo and the Karcher Ranger to my collection cause I don't know how long they'll last in the market. That was my mistake when Shop-Vac came out with their Easy Lift upright because I didn't realize they weren't going to last for very long in the market and have wanted to add one in my collection during the time but I didn't unfortunately.
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| Post# 458476 , Reply# 79 12/9/2022 at 01:55 (501 days old) by Kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 458486 , Reply# 80 12/9/2022 at 13:55 (500 days old) by wstonehockertv (North Carolina) | ||
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Now to see what 2023 brings to the table. | ||
| Post# 458490 , Reply# 81 12/9/2022 at 19:49 (500 days old) by Juju93 (South Georgia) | ||
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The only thing 2023 will probably bring is sentria 4 (avalir 2) going into its 5th/6th year of production and maybe a new dyson cordless. | ||
| Post# 458495 , Reply# 82 12/10/2022 at 00:00 (500 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
Even if you don't have pets...vacuum bags will get that stale smell after a bit even before the bag needs changing... I always HATED that and would always change the bag before it needed it... but not anymore thanks to those activated charcoal pellets... years ago I bought this big canister of it for like $14 and I have over half of it left...Literally all you do is suck up a little bit every week or so...it takes 2 seconds and the bag literally never smells. Now, I can't say this would work with a dog... but it worked with my cats (which I no longer have)
I too hate the fragrances that mix with the bag smell and make it worse. Activated charcoal is the absolute best for me. but even better is using my rainbow... It always smells soo good | ||
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