Thread Number: 42502
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Will a Hoover Celebrity scratch up my wood floors? + Donor Vacuum |
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Post# 446751 , Reply# 1   10/2/2021 at 11:01 (908 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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The earlier Powermatic power nozzle, which came with the orange Celebrity II you just picked up, and also the blue/chrome Celebrity Elite IV, didn't shut off the brush roll for hard floor cleaning. As you say a strip of bristles dropped down to help sweep the surface but the brush roll does not stop turning.
The newer Quadraflex Powermatic power nozzle like what comes with the later Celebrity QS Series models: chrome/mocha, chrome/green, chrome/gray, does shut the brush motor off when cleaning hard floors. But there's no separate brush that lowers on those. I can't say whether the style that doesn't shut off the brush will scratch your floors or not. Personally I would just use the hard floor brush, which is what I do with most canisters. It glides over hard floors much easier and you don't have that scratchy sound that the power nozzle wheels make when going over grit. Not sure if the wheels themselves cause scratches but that noise just tends to bother me. |
Post# 446752 , Reply# 2   10/2/2021 at 11:15 (908 days old) by Kate (Saint Louis)   |   | |
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Thank you fan-of-fans, that's very helpful. I notice that a lot of models for sale are missing that hard floor brush |
Post# 446753 , Reply# 3   10/2/2021 at 11:49 (908 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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If need be, you can get a newer style 9" Hoover floor brush that will fit these. Hoover still uses these style attachments with the Portapower canister. In my opinion the newer floor brush style is a little better because the bristle pattern doesn't "snow plow" like the older ones did.
www.amazon.com/Hoover-Can...
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Post# 446754 , Reply# 4   10/2/2021 at 11:58 (908 days old) by Kate (Saint Louis)   |   | |
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Thanks for the info. I actually have a vintage Portapower, need to dig it out and see if I have that head!
Do you know if my orange "donor" Celebrity is worth hanging on to for the motor and cord rewind? |
Post# 446801 , Reply# 5   10/4/2021 at 09:08 (906 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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Kate, frankly the s3061 celebrity ii you got with its hose is a better machine than the celebrity QS. the powermatic pn's on the celebrity ii and iv are much more reliable and you can still get brush strips for these pn's. in fact amatek still makes power nozzle motors for the powermatic pn's as a direct replcement. this is not the case with the QS celebrity power nozzle.
the qs celebrity pn's used the quadraflex brushroll which TTI wont let aftermarket people manufacture. one the brush strips on that pn brushroll wear out, the pn is then effectively useless. also hoover made a stupid design flaw in the quadraflex pn's when the headlight burns out the pn wont run. if i were you, i would use your celebrity QS for now, but search for the power nozzle for the celebrity II. theyre not easy to find, but i think youll get much better service life from the powermatic pn on the celebrity ii than the QS. attached is a photo of the proper powerhead for that s3061 celebrity ii. |
Post# 446802 , Reply# 6   10/4/2021 at 09:11 (906 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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Here's a photo of the powermatic pn for that s3061 celebrity ii.
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Post# 446804 , Reply# 7   10/4/2021 at 10:55 (906 days old) by Kloveland (Tulsa)   |   | |
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Post# 446807 , Reply# 9   10/4/2021 at 13:07 (906 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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Post# 446808 , Reply# 10   10/4/2021 at 13:50 (906 days old) by Kate (Saint Louis)   |   | |
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I'll pick up some silicone spray! |
Post# 446824 , Reply# 11   10/5/2021 at 19:57 (904 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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Kenny, you're correct on that. I have the green QS that has the regular one speed PN, the bulb was burned out when I got it, but it still ran.
I also have the gray QS with the 2 speed power nozzle, and it does say that if the bulb is out that it won't work. It does have something to do with the circuitry, as that version has overload protection. There's actually a circuit board in there with an IC chip on it. I did not know that the motors and brushes were still available for the earlier Celebrity PN. Very interesting! |
Post# 446830 , Reply# 12   10/6/2021 at 09:33 (904 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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yes the celebrity ii and iv powermatic just simply take hoover convertible brush strips. however the brushroll core itself is not the same dimension and cannot be interchanged with a convertible sans the pulley endcap.
the ametek motor i found for the pn motor replacement after considerable digging and research when i was repairing a failed motor on one for a customer some time ago. the motor is still quite available and cheap. ive found two variants in ametek part numbers but the motor is the same. ametek 5409-31-2 and ametek 5409-3-2 are the same thing. also listed under and older part number 118155-54. these are are all direct replacements for the powermatic pn motors as long as they have the screw threads on one side to secure to the on housing. a more generic term that will also hit the correct part number is ametek power nozzle motor short shaft or ametek filter queen power nozzle motor |