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Ge Swivel Top Motor
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Post# 444965   8/21/2021 at 17:10 (977 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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I know this is a long shot, but will an Electrolux model L motor fit in a later, bol model Swivel Top? If not, is there a motor out there that will? I no longer have the old motor, it was on it’s last leg and was thrown out years ago.
Thanks!


Post# 445003 , Reply# 1   8/22/2021 at 16:26 (976 days old) by mjhoshaw (Western PA)        

I have to say no because I once owned a GE swivel top, and its motor was physically very different from any lux motor. The GE motor had a relatively small diameter in order to fit under the bag dome, and its air intake was on the commutator end, unlike every vintage lux motor I've encountered. No other motor occurs to me that would provide performance similar to the original.

Post# 445008 , Reply# 2   8/22/2021 at 20:52 (975 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Never throw motors away, motors can always be repaired & rebuilt.

You'd have to find another Swivel Top that's in poor shape to swap the motor into/from is my guess. Or buy an entirely other swivel top and use the old one as a wastebasket. lol The motor area is so small there isn't a lot of room for retrofitting in other motors.


Post# 445016 , Reply# 3   8/22/2021 at 21:50 (975 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Few

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And I mean few vacuums are bad. I've had two with bad motors and it ruined the entire vacuum m. Mike baldo made a you tube documentary on restoring the 509 for Carter
That vacuum was in Kirby collector became the owner of the vacuum. Mike had sent the motor out and had it refurbished and calibrated.
The motor never got right even after mike the king of Kirby's sends a vacuum to get refurbished. Bad motors in rare occasions it's better to throw them out and not ruin anything.


Post# 445017 , Reply# 4   8/22/2021 at 21:57 (975 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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It was $1 from the recycling center. It has small rust dings and scratches all over it but nothing major. The motor would not run in its original configuration, so 12 year old me decided to hook up the weird grey wire came out on one side and went in the other and the white one to a cord, bypassing the black one. It shot to life, I remember a lot of sparks, and I think it flew off my table. Not keeping that motor lol
I still have no idea what that wire was there for, it wasn't a brush wire.


Post# 445025 , Reply# 5   8/22/2021 at 22:46 (975 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
My

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Motors arced and burned beautiful colors. The colors you get when melting metals.
Ir was 2 ds80's I had 60 hours into I was still learning. It basically ruined a few months on vacuums that were showroom condition.


Post# 445298 , Reply# 6   8/28/2021 at 20:44 (969 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Also with GE swivel tops, if my memory serves right, they are different than other motors, because there's no housing over the fan, the lower section of the cleaner serves as the fan housing instead.

Post# 445304 , Reply# 7   8/28/2021 at 21:54 (969 days old) by mjhoshaw (Western PA)        
Variations

I bought a GE V11C65 from a vac shop in 1969 for $5. This is the same one I wrote about in an earlier post. It had a 2-stage motor and did have proper fan housings which were below the bag compartment. It was quite noisy. I stuffed old t-shirts into the lower part of the body to reduce the noise. It was a strong runner that eclipsed my parents' 'lux model E, but back then, because of lack of exposure to other brands, I mistakenly thought that it was inferior and couldn't have more power. Maybe it had less airflow due to thinner fans, but it definitely had more suction.

It's this reverse-flow design where the fans are on the tail end (in this case the bottom) of the motor that make finding a replacement a challenge. If I still had this machine I would gladly give you the motor. Good luck.


Post# 445305 , Reply# 8   8/28/2021 at 22:10 (969 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Ah, I see, so the models with the two fans indeed have a separate fan housing. Good to know, I'm not very familiar with these and it shows.

The only ones I am familiar with seeing the motor in are the cheapy short body single fan ones. When you take the motor out of the unit, the fan is exposed right in the open. At least that's how the later ones going into the Premier era I've seen are.

And yes, the twin fan models should indeed have greater airflow and suction than the single ones. Should be quieter too.


Post# 445306 , Reply# 9   8/28/2021 at 22:32 (969 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Mine is a single fan unit, and is actually a Premier. It is in urine yellow lol

Post# 445322 , Reply# 10   8/29/2021 at 10:01 (969 days old) by Tinkerman (Central Texas)        
I may have a motor for it.

I have one in my workshop that is too chewed up to restore but it runs fine. Will get a picture later

Post# 445376 , Reply# 11   8/30/2021 at 19:20 (967 days old) by Tinkerman (Central Texas)        

Mine is model VII-13

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Post# 445377 , Reply# 12   8/30/2021 at 19:23 (967 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Does that model have one or two fans?

Post# 445424 , Reply# 13   8/31/2021 at 18:58 (967 days old) by mjhoshaw (Western PA)        
Premier

Wow fan-of-fans, that's about as cheap as you can get, no fan housing at all. I heard one run once and it was a real screamer, certainly nothing for the maker to be proud of.


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