Thread Number: 41867  /  Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Fantom Fury brushroll won't stay in, lifts up
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Post# 442252   5/26/2021 at 12:01 (1,063 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA)        

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The buyer who I sold my Fantom Fury to, as well as myself, are having this issue with the machine where we're having a hard time keeping the brushroll retained in the lower housing. It tends to lift up while the top cover is removed. He has been DM'ing me on Instagram to troubleshoot this issue.

Considering the difficulty of installing a belt, due to the tension, this gets quite annoying when trying to put the brushroll back in. Even when putting the brushroll in first, THEN stretching the belt over the motor shaft, the brush still lifts up. And it IS oriented correctly.

For the record, the brushroll is still in great shape; the bearings aren't bad and both end caps are being put into the matching slots.

The best method I've found is to put the brushroll in first, hold it down with my foot and stretch the belt around the motor shaft. Then I let go of the brushroll and put the top cover on as quickly as I can, before the brush lifts up. I relayed this information to the buyer, and he seems to have gotten the brushroll and belt to stay.

Does anybody else have this much difficulty keeping the brushroll retained in a Fantom Fury?


Post# 442256 , Reply# 1   5/26/2021 at 14:03 (1,063 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Womdering...

Do the roller end caps have a lot of wear on them. Are the slots on the machine rounding out when they used to be square or other shape? Does the roller sit tight in the holders without the belt installed? If it rattles and you can move the roller left and right? See if you can turn one of the end caps as though you were trying to take them off. Just a turn or so, just to see if it sits more snug in it's mounting.

If that works and the roller spins freely, then try installing the belt again. Also, if the belt is correct for your machine but is ridiculously hard to stretch on to the roller,try soaking the belt in hot water for about 15min.


Post# 442294 , Reply# 2   5/27/2021 at 15:20 (1,062 days old) by javesike1262 (Fort Smith)        

Here is a picture of the brush roll endcaps and the housing of the Fury. They don't look in bad shape.


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Post# 442382 , Reply# 3   5/29/2021 at 21:31 (1,060 days old) by javesike1262 (Fort Smith)        

I may end up finding a new brush roll as I accidentally dropped it and the endcap just broke off. They are very hard to find and let me know if anyone is selling the exact same brush roll with the same endcaps as I have. I may also double-check the housing too if anything is damaged.

Post# 442383 , Reply# 4   5/29/2021 at 21:58 (1,060 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
If that small lio

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Is holding in a brush roll congratulations. If you want a brush to sit or set your going to have to alter a better mounting system basically the brush roll won't stay in where it's supposed to without modification. It won't stay in. It's old plastic brush roll and housing. It will not stay unless altered and doing so ruins the vacuum.
Just my two cents learn to love it as a straight auction machine. Getting a brush roll to stay in a plastic square that is old and worn. It's not going to happen.


Post# 442397 , Reply# 5   5/30/2021 at 13:33 (1,059 days old) by javesike1262 (Fort Smith)        

Here is how the mounting plastics look on the vacuum. I'll need to buy a new brush roll if one on eBay comes up with the same style endcaps.


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Post# 442417 , Reply# 6   5/31/2021 at 02:33 (1,058 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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What you are describing is a non-issue. The top cover holds the brushroll down by sandwiching it in place. The brushroll coming out with the top cover removed is normal. You do not run the vacuum with the top cover removed.

Also the manual states you put the belt around the motor shaft first, then around the brushroll, then pull the brushroll towards you and insert into the chassis. You do this with the vacuum in the upright position.


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Post# 442445 , Reply# 7   5/31/2021 at 11:41 (1,058 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA)        
Strange...

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I thought that installing the belt was done the other way around, by looping the belt around the brushroll first, slotting the brushroll into the chassis, THEN pulling the belt around the motor shaft. I learned that from watching the how-to VHS tape that would've originally been included with the vacuum when bought new. I don't recall watching it when I was a kid, however.

Fortunately, someone digitized a copy of this tape and uploaded it to YouTube a few years ago, which is super convenient as I longer have a VCR and don't intend on buying another one in the foreseeable future. They show you how to replace the belt starting at the 15:00 mark.


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