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Sanitaire S645: Old School But Not Exactly Old...
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Post# 437324   1/13/2021 at 22:01 (1,169 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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My name is Human and I'm a vacuholic...

I thought I had my addiction under control until I went out to run some errands this afternoon and stopped by a Goodwill store. They had about a half dozen modern, plasticrap vacs but one old school chrome metal handle was sticking up among them and caught my eye. When I pulled it out, I found the handle connected to a blue Sanitaire upright, model S645 made by Electrolx with an F&G bag setup. They had it priced at $15 and it had enough to likely put the average Goodwill shopper off of it, but an addict like me? No way. So while I did think about it for a few minutes, I realized I had pretty much all of the parts needed to fix it up so I shelled out $15 and brought it home and spent about an hour fixing most of its issues:

•Upper cord hook was broken off—I had a couple at home, albeit in white plastic for my red Sanitaire SC686, so no big deal.
•Spring that holds the bag assembly to the cord hook was all stretched out from being held in place with gaffer tape and twine—I harvested one from the dump bag I took off my SC686. Glad I didn't throw it away. I seriously considered putting the entire bag header from the dump bag on it but that would have required destroying the dowel that was sewn into the blue outer bag so I opted simply to replace the spring and keep it closer to original. But hey, the other is always an option at a later date.
•Had a big, flat, totally wrong belt on it—I have plenty of proper round belts on hand so again, no biggie.
•The cord is a little buggered up—I untangled it and put electrical tape on the bad spots for now. I've got a 30-footer on my eBay watch list for just under $14 including shipping.
•Headlight is burned out—First, I've got to figure out how to take the headlight lens off to get to the bulb—overall, it's a low priority item.
•I broke the bag tube spring, trying to take the full bag out—I've already got a couple on my eBay watch list or I may just try an old fashioned radiator hose clamp.

The bottom line is I totally didn't need it but now I've got it. The machine does run but I've not been able to take it for a proper test drive yet. Once I get a new bag securely into place, I'll see how it performs. In the meantime, it definitely needs a little more of a cleanup. The underside is absolutely caked with dirt and it smells faintly of dog. It's not bad but it is noticeable. The photo below is of the machine after I spent about an hour working on it after I got home. You can see the white cord hook and the taped spots on the cord. One thing's for sure, I will end up spending far less on this one than I did my SC686.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to find that vacuholics anonymous meeting and pick up another white chip.


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Post# 437325 , Reply# 1   1/13/2021 at 22:46 (1,169 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Slight Update: I fixed the Bag Tube Spring...

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So, I was looking at one of the eBay listings for a bag tube spring and I noticed the spring appeared to be fed onto itself to form a circle so I retrieved the one I thought I'd broken from the trash and put it back together in about a second. I don't know why I didn't think of that before. Somehow, I just assumed it was a continuous spring and I'd snapped it. I guess I was just waiting for something to go wrong. So now, the machine has a new F&G bag in it and is ready to run. Maybe tomorrow. I'm glad I was able to save myself $5 by not having to buy a spring. Once I give it a run and am satisfied with it, I'll make a decision about whether to replace the cord. Knowing my addict ways, the decision will most likely be yes.

Post# 437332 , Reply# 2   1/14/2021 at 07:49 (1,168 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Don't you remove the top to change the bulb?? I THINK??? It's been a while.

Post# 437334 , Reply# 3   1/14/2021 at 08:18 (1,168 days old) by kirboover (Watertown, South Dakota)        
You do have to take the top off to change bulb

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The lens does come off, but it is very brittle so I do not recommend it.

Post# 437335 , Reply# 4   1/14/2021 at 08:52 (1,168 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Good advice...

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Thanks for the information. I'll have to look into how to remove the top. I'm going to need to do that anyway to replace the cord. Might as well do both operations at the same time. I'm guessing there are screws on the underside or does it just pry off? It can't be terribly difficult. Sanitaires are designed kind of like military assault rifles—to be quickly field stripped, serviced, and put back into action. I tried gently prying the headlight lens off with a screwdriver but I stopped immediately when it didn't readily disengage. After the experience with the tube spring, I wasn't in the mood to unnecessarily break anything else.

Post# 437339 , Reply# 5   1/14/2021 at 10:02 (1,168 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Edgar I think the last one that I took the top off was held in with springs that come through, I just used needle nose to pull them loose and the top came off. of course that may not be with every model.

Post# 437341 , Reply# 6   1/14/2021 at 11:03 (1,168 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Two different designs...

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Thanks David. It appears you are correct regarding metal-hooded machines but the plastic-hooded ones are different. I just watched a YouTube video of a plastic-hooded 'red line' Sanitaire being torn down and then examined my two Sanitaires to confirm the information. Apparently, the metal-hooded ones like my SC686 have the springs and the plastic-hooded ones like my S645 have screws in the same relative positions.

I'm not sure if it's variation between the 'red line' and 'blue line' machines or just something that changed over time as with Kirbys but the 'red line' machine in the video had Torx screws holding the hood in place while my 'blue line' machine has Phillips screws. Another interesting difference is my SC686 has a three-prong plug while the S645 has a two-prong plug. I was looking at a parts list for the S645 and it shows the cord as having a ground wire at the machine end although the plug has two prongs. Presumably, one of the power prongs is grounded inside the plug. I'm thinking I may take the hood off mine and see if there's a ground wire coming off the cord. If so, I may upgrade it to a three-wire cord with a three-prong plug as the cord I have on my eBay watch list right now is a two-wire cord with a two-prong plug.

In looking at the ratings sticker on the bottom of my S645, it was made in Mexico in 2012 and has a 7amp motor. Should be a brute once I get it all fixed up.


Post# 437353 , Reply# 7   1/14/2021 at 15:25 (1,168 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
'Exploratory Surgery'

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Okay, so I got the cover off of the blue Sanitaire and found the headlight bulb is well and truly dead. I also determined the cord is indeed a two-lead and not a three-lead. That means the inexpensive generic cord on my eBay watch list will work just fine. The only thing I'm slightly concerned about is getting the strain relief grommet out of the little L-shaped bracket into which it is inserted without tearing it up beyond the point of usability. Perhaps I should consider cutting the cord on either side of the grommet and then pulling the insides out first. I've got a little shopping to do and I'll be looking at spending an additional $20 on the machine but for a vacuum that retails for $200-300 new, that isn't too bad. The important thing is I have a game plan now.

Post# 437355 , Reply# 8   1/14/2021 at 15:32 (1,168 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Sounds good, I normally use needle nose pliers , not sure if that's normal. I'm sure replacement is available too. 👍👍 Good luck buddy.

Post# 437365 , Reply# 9   1/14/2021 at 22:06 (1,168 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Cut

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On wire next to the grommets. Cut both sides slit to strip back the wire. This should free up the grommets. If not take out electrical wires from the grommet. This would leave pieces of original cord to cut off. .it can be done just a little patience.
I went to harbor freight and got their larger hose clamps for cheap. I use them to attach the bellows to the bag. The bailing wire isn't something I like.


Post# 437366 , Reply# 10   1/14/2021 at 22:06 (1,168 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)        

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A large crochet hook works well too. Either wood or metal.

Post# 437379 , Reply# 11   1/15/2021 at 10:17 (1,167 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Les, that's exactly the procedure I was envisioning. I figure once I've got the 'innards' out of whatever piece of cord is left going through the grommet, the outer insulation can be easily collapsed and removed, leaving an empty grommet that can be dislodged and placed on the new cord. I hadn't thought of slitting the outer insulation but that's a good idea.

I've ordered a new cord and a headlight bulb that will be here in a week or so. Part of me wants to go ahead and try this machine out, even with the damaged cord. I didn't see any exposed wires as I was untangling and taping it up the other day, just tears in the outer jacket, but I'm still a little leery of it. We'll see. Taking the cover off of that machine yesterday, it was refreshing to see an old school design in a modern machine. There were no circuit boards and I could trace out all the wires and understand absolutely everything I was seeing. For me, there is elegance in simplicity.


Post# 437380 , Reply# 12   1/15/2021 at 10:56 (1,167 days old) by sanitaire (anchorage, alaska)        

can u remove the fan chamber on the bottom too replace the fan, like on some red sanitaire's or do U have too take off the cover and and pull motor too replace the fan?

Post# 437389 , Reply# 13   1/15/2021 at 14:05 (1,167 days old) by Human (Pines of Carolina)        
Good First Run...

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The fan and motor assembly on my S645 must come out from above since the base is a single piece. Fortunately, that's a pretty easy operation. I'm considering stripping the machine down completely to wash the crud off of the underside of the base. It looks like it was used to vacuum a carpet that had just been shampooed but hadn't been allowed to thoroughly dry.

Because of the damaged cord, I was planning to wait until I had the new cord and could install it before giving this machine an inaugural test run but excitement got the better of me a little while ago. The cord was an ungodly mess when I got it and it took me about 15 minutes just to untangle it and tape up the spots where the outer jacket was torn. While I didn't observe any bare wires, I'll still feel better in the long run with a new cord in place.

The experience of vacuuming my bedroom, which has both 'realtor beige' carpet and a Persian rug, was good. The machine sucks dirt like a mutha and is also easy to handle, easier in fact than my other Sanitaire. It's not quite as effortless as a G-series Kirby with the Tech Drive engaged but it's not bad at all. It even has good manners about not grabbing shoelaces and charger cords. Best of all, it passes the Persian rug test, clearing cat hair in a single pass.

I don't know that it's destined to become a daily driver--not that I vacuum on anything remotely close to a daily basis--but it'll definitely be in the rotation for when the mood strikes.


Post# 437391 , Reply# 14   1/15/2021 at 17:59 (1,167 days old) by Human (Pines of Carolina)        

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So I had a strange development this afternoon. Shortly after I wrote the above post, I received an email saying the order for my cord had been canceled and I had received a refund but there was no explanation as to why. When I inquired as to why, I was told it was out of stock. I decided not to fool with that seller any further, even though they did have the best prices, and instead ordered one from elsewhere. It's black instead of the original's gray but I'm upgrading from the original 30 feet to 40 feet. I don't really need the ten extra feet but for just $2 more, why not? I don't know why the thought of spending more money fixing up yet another vacuum cleaner that I do not need excites me so much but it does. I've got to get this little addiction under control.

Post# 437392 , Reply# 15   1/15/2021 at 18:07 (1,167 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Welcome brother, we understand:)

Post# 437433 , Reply# 16   1/17/2021 at 14:00 (1,165 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Cleanup Time...

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So it's a lazy Sunday afternoon and I had done almost nothing with/to my new Sanitaire in two days so I decided to address the only thing I could until the replacement cord and light bulb arrive—its own dirt.

As metioned earlier, the dirt channel inside the belt cover had a serious, let's call it an 'en-crud-station' of gunk and pet hair that gave the machine a faint dog odor. It wasn't exactly overpowering but it was enough that my two cats regarded the machine with some suspicion. But then again, aren't cats suspicious of just about everything?

So I set to work with paper towels and spray cleaner and ended up getting about 98 percent of the crud off of the base, the belt cover and the brush roll. Not pleasant work but it had to be done. In the process, I discovered a fair amount of surface rust on the inside of the belt cover, which, along with the caked-on crud, confirms my suspicion that the machine was used to pick damp dirt.

I finished it off by removing the paint scuffs with a simple technique I observed in a YouTube video yesterday where the technician used a Scotchbrite pad and spray cleaner. It works like magic. Almost all of my machines have paint scrapes to some degree so I'll likely be working on them this way one by one.

In addition to this afternoon's activities, I had given the outer bag a good vacuuming with my Kirby Heritage and its trubo brush (it always seems ironically redundant to vacuum another vacuum cleaner) so the machine is looking great except for replacing the cord and headlight. The brush strips are also beginning to show their age but Friday's test run proved they're not quite ready for the waste bin yet.


Post# 437451 , Reply# 17   1/17/2021 at 20:53 (1,165 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Scuffs

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If you use Mr. Clean magic eraser. If you get it wet it works just as well. Glad to hear it's running good.

Post# 437471 , Reply# 18   1/18/2021 at 12:35 (1,164 days old) by Human (Pines of Carolina)        
Mr. Clean's Magic Erasers...

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I tried those a few years ago and did not have much success. They would usually disintegrate before they really made much headway on the scuff marks. I was moistening them with water but maybe I should have been using spray cleaner. After working on my newly acquired blue Sanitaire yesterday, I took my much older red one out on the deck and scrubbed the scuff marks off of it as well. It was a little more effort but that machine has never looked better since I've had it. I may have to take some photos of the two together once I'm finished refurbishing the blue one.

Post# 437489 , Reply# 19   1/19/2021 at 15:41 (1,163 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Let There Be Light!

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I wasn't expecting it today but the postman delivered the headlight bulb a little while ago. I just installed it and fired it up for a second to confirm that it works. It was nice to see it lit up for the first time. That just leaves the cord to install, whenever it arrives.

It still kind of mystifies me why the engineers at Electrolux chose to use two different types of screws (Phillips on the bottom and Torx on the height control knob) instead of just one type. It would have been a whole lot more convenient to have the same type of screws both places so only one tool would be needed to take the cover off. The Phillips screws were probably marginally less expensive, so they with those to save something like half a cent per machine to make the bean counters happy.

So the vacuum is certainly usable as it is now and has certainly had a bit of a transformation from the beaten down survivor it was when I found it last week. It's really turning out to be a very nice machine.


Post# 437505 , Reply# 20   1/20/2021 at 05:52 (1,162 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Came late to your Sanitaire journey

I had answers to all your queries but they were handled by some of the best already! I'll just ad a little potpourri to the list. Two of my rescued Eurekas had come to me with a hoover fan belt used in place of the spring to hold the bag to the collar.Works fine, I left that way and the belt doesn't rust as some of the springs do, so just a thought.

Apparently the blue Sanitronics were called the "Pro-Line." I'm not sure what the difference with regards to performance is between the red and blue lines, I know the blueline has a "dressier" appearance than the red. I don't notice any difference, the motors are the same on similar vintaged models.

The screws!! My guess as to why they varied from Torx to Phillips with some having both? I think, and this is a stretch, but as you know Eureka changed ownership a number of times along with where they were manufactured. All of my older Eurekas had torx screws holding the motor in the chassis and always on the round height adjuster. They all had springs holding the hood down. The newer plastic Eurekas that I've seen in bagless form, use Phillips mostly.

I guess the Sanitaires are the only ones still using the round fan belts with the original motors since everything else made is using a bi-pass motor. That 7amp motor is a beast isn't it? What size motor is in your Red Sanitaire? I don't know if this means anything or not but the field coils in my blue S. are blue as well! I also heard that the Sanitronics made in Mexico are every bit as good as the USA models are yeah! Can't comment on the made in China models other than they don't look as rugged as previous versions.


Post# 437513 , Reply# 21   1/20/2021 at 10:16 (1,162 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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I was able to replace the spring with an original one off of a disused dump bag I'd taken off of my other Sanitaire. It isn't as shiny as the damaged one I took off but it isn't rusty, either.

My new blue Sanitaire has the word "Professional" emblazoned on the hood, whereas my older red one says "Heavy Duty Commercial" on the bag. My understanding is the blue line is intended for home use, not commercial. From comparing my two machines and looking at specifications on the Web, the main difference between the blue Professional line and the red Commercial line, other than cosmetics, is in the cord. The red line uses a grounded three-lead cord with a three-prong plug and the blue Professional line uses a two-lead cord with a two-prong plug. Also, most red line machines come with a 50-foot cord, although a 30-footer is optional. Conversely, the blue line comes standard with a 30-foot cord with an optional 50-footer. Other than that, the differences come down to warranty terms and distribution channels. The red line, I believe, is sold primarily through commercial resellers while the blue line is sold primarily through retail.

I don't see any real difference in build quality between my two machines, other than the red one has a metal hood and the blue one's is plastic. Another minor difference is the blue one has slightly larger rear wheels that are set farther apart. The rear wheels on my red one are completely hidden under the chassis while those on my blue one are exposed. I believe this represents an evolutionary design change over time for both lines and I'm not sure it makes much, if any, difference in handling.

It amazes me that even though my two Sanitaires were manufactured some 30 years apart, they share a huge number of common and interchangeable parts. Interestingly, my red SC686 has a 6 amp motor while my blue S645 has a 7 amp motor. I'm not sure how much difference that one amp makes.


Post# 437530 , Reply# 22   1/20/2021 at 22:36 (1,162 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Same here

I don't notice much difference between the 6 or 7amp motor. My SC888 has the newer style chassis like your blueline. I do like that it's much easier to access the fan without having to "pop the hood" and unbolt the motor to change.

I don't know what the previous owner vacuumed up but it blew a hole through the side of the fan chamber about the size of a 50 cent piece, you remember those? As a temporary fix to patch the hole I cut out the top part of a plastic solo drinking cup to fit over the hole and glued in place with apoxy and then from the back side I used some really good duct tape to reinforce the patch. Crazy but it actually worked fine with no dust leaking from the area. $28 for a new chassis about a year later.

One of the members here scored a special Blueline Pro about a year ago or so. It has the box style bag that's similar to a few high end Eurekas. I don't know if you saw the pics but this was a really nice machine. You don't see many around. I would say the condition was deserving of the "Keither Gold Standard" award!


Post# 437548 , Reply# 23   1/21/2021 at 10:28 (1,161 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Nice fix on the fan cover. Reminds me of when I repaired a plastic elbow connector for a two-sided Electrolx 'flippy' floor tool using epoxy and a piece I cut from an expired credit card. Three years later and it's still holding. Gotta love those 'McGyver' jobs.

I don't recall that Blueline Pro you mentioned. Eureka/Sanitaire definitely liked to play mix-n-match with available components to create different variations and models of the same basic machine, especially when you consider that in addition to Sanitaire's red and blue lines, they also sold the same basic machine under the Eureka banner for many years. My sense is the blue line Sanitaires eventually became a replacement for the traditional Eureka machines.


Post# 437571 , Reply# 24   1/21/2021 at 22:38 (1,161 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Did you ever

get a chance to see VacLab's YouTube video of a duel headed Sanitaire? One handle two vacs. 24" cleaning path. I see that your model S645 came with a commercial duty 7amp motor with the extended 10 year warranty.Nice because the new models have a 2 yr. warranty,not that that applies to us second hand owners! They are rated as 2000 hr. motors so that's a good thing.If I were in the market for a new Sanitaire I'd consider the Industrial, (not commercial) Industrial H3480 $309.00 Pricey yes, comes with a metal base and hood, 2 speeds,six heights, the works. I was just curious what the current flagship direct air model model looked like when I stumbled on the Industrial line. When new your 645 went for about $219-245. It should last as long as you want it to!

Post# 437586 , Reply# 25   1/22/2021 at 09:07 (1,160 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Yeah, I saw that 'two-headed monster'. The thing looks like it was designed in somebody's garage after a few too many beers—you know, that point when the most outlandish of notions start looking like 'good ideas'. I'd imagine the user experience would be somewhat akin to running a lawnmower.

I feel like my S645 was a good buy, even with the work it has needed. It's coming together exactly as I had visualized it would. The motor is definitely one of its strong points and one of the things that pushed me toward purchasing it. Given how filthy it was underneath, it's surprisingly pristine inside the motor compartment—hardly any dirt or dust at all and no oxidation on the metal. I have no doubt this machine has a long life ahead of it.


Post# 437676 , Reply# 26   1/23/2021 at 22:56 (1,159 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Difference

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The blue line I had was the top of the line 7 amp made in mexico triple filter bag. The blue line had a grey handle with the power switch on the handle. Blue is more aesthetics and convenience. The red line are mass produced and are made to be rebuilt.
They do have ST bag setup that makes the vacuum too full hepa.
The cfm off f&g bag is around 130. The st setup is around 145. Its an 12 percent increase in cfm. I find the extra air makes it easy on very thick carpet.
There easy to use cheap to maintain and solid performing vacuums. Red or blue there both impressive.
I almost ended my post but it struck me. Threads in the past mention costco and sam's club selling sanitaire blue lines.


Post# 437690 , Reply# 27   1/24/2021 at 10:53 (1,158 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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My blue line S645 isn't quite that refined. Overall, it seems to be a red line machine clothed in blue livery. It has a foot-operated switch in the same relative location as on my red line SC686, although it does have a flush cover with the switch itself hidden underneath. It has an F&G bag setup from the factory and the outer bag claims "micron filtration". I like the idea of the ST setup but I'm fine with the F&G since I had already retrofitted my SC686 that way. I love how simple they are to work on and how cheap they are to maintain. Buying parts in quantity is the key.

According to tracking, the cord is due to be delivered Tuesday or Wednesday. Since I've got to remove both cord hooks to take the old cord off, I've decided to replace the lower one with a white hook to match the top one I put on when I got it. I have extras of those, so why not? It may not be the correct color for the machine but at least two will match.


Post# 437780 , Reply# 28   1/26/2021 at 10:58 (1,156 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
I almost don't want to jinx it...

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Tracking shows the replacement cord is out for delivery today so it should be here later this afternoon. Unfortunately, I won't have time to tear into the vacuum and install it until tomorrow but I'm excited to complete this project.

In looking at the vacuum, I've discovered the idea of swapping the dark gray lower cord hook for a white one to match the upper hook I've already put on is going to be a good call for more than just aesthetic reasons. The white ones are considerably longer, which will come in handy for the 40-foot cord I'm putting on. The original 30-foot cord pretty much fills up the smaller cord hook, likely making it incompatible with the longer cord. The main reason I went ahead and bought this vacuum is I had most of the parts on hand to fix it up, apparently including ones I didn't know I needed at the time.


Post# 437790 , Reply# 29   1/26/2021 at 17:29 (1,156 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Project complete!

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So the cord arrived earlier this afternoon and although there was other stuff I needed to do, I just got excited and had to stop and install it. As it turns out, the hardest part was getting the strain relief installed. This was because the new cord is slightly heavier gauge—17awg vs. the original's 18awg—so it has a slightly greater diameter. Once I finally persuaded it to go into place, it was smooth sailing from there.

In addition to changing out the lower cord hook as described above, I also swapped out the light gray height selector knob for a black one I had that matches the both the new cord and the power switch. It's not exactly how it came from the factory but it looks pretty nice. The only thing left that I could possibly do at this point is to replace the brush strips but except for a little mashed down spot on one of them, they're nowhere near the point of needing replacing.

I'll post some photos tomorrow.


Post# 437835 , Reply# 30   1/27/2021 at 10:47 (1,155 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Picture Day...

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Now that the Sanitaire project is completed and it's not raining, I dragged the blue S645 I've been working on and its sibling the red SC686 out onto the deck for a photo shoot. Even though the blue one is some 30 years newer, it's amazing how little they really changed over the years.

Looking at the blue one, you can see some of the modifications I made including the larger white cord hooks, the longer and heavier black replacement cord and the black height adjustment knob. I don't know why but I just like the look of the black knob better than the light gray one it came with, especially with the black cord. I measured the cord hooks last night and the white ones are about half an inch longer and a quarter inch wider from the handle than the remaining original dark gray one. They easily accommodate the 40-foot cord, which I think would have overwhelmed the smaller dark gray hooks. All in all, I'm pleased with how it turned out.


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Post# 437840 , Reply# 31   1/27/2021 at 12:40 (1,155 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Nice job there buddy! As usual, I agree with everything you have said and done there it's an improvement!

Post# 437861 , Reply# 32   1/27/2021 at 22:05 (1,155 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Weird

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The newer has a light, plastic and no vents. The older metal has vents but no light.
The small differences.
There a nice tandem.


Post# 437884 , Reply# 33   1/28/2021 at 09:12 (1,154 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Both machines have vents, just in different locations. The older one with the metal hood has them on the sides and the newer one with the plastic hood has a vent at the top. The blue machine's hood seems to be the same as the tan Eureka in reply #5 of the thread below, while the gray machine in the initial post of that thread has no vents at all.

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Post# 437923 , Reply# 34   1/28/2021 at 22:24 (1,154 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Vents

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The underside in the sections between the wheels there is vents there.
I wonder if vents are how they release a new design.


Post# 437946 , Reply# 35   1/29/2021 at 09:42 (1,153 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Both of mine are vented identically underneath. The design of these things remained incredibly consistent for an amazingly long time. They're like the Model-T Ford of vacuum cleaners—simple, rugged, dependable, easy to repair. It's a case study in evolutionary design.

Post# 438379 , Reply# 36   2/8/2021 at 23:12 (1,143 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)        
Oooops,late again!

I've got older Sanitaire/Eurekas with rows of vents on top of the hood, I mean, 70% of the top is vented, then some with a row or two. Also some have removable plastic scoop vents on the motor just beside the side vents of the hood but under the hood.Looking at the hood on your blue machine kind of proves the old adage "the more things change the more they stay the same."


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