Thread Number: 41051
/ Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
Hoover Senior 612 Help! |
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Post# 435753 , Reply# 1   12/2/2020 at 02:08 (1,240 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 435758 , Reply# 3   12/2/2020 at 07:11 (1,240 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)   |   | |
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you might want to post a couple of pics of how it is wired |
Post# 435767 , Reply# 4   12/2/2020 at 10:37 (1,240 days old) by Elecroluxmodel1 ( Schererville, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 435795 , Reply# 9   12/3/2020 at 00:22 (1,239 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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As a general rule, universal motors are wired thusly:
Line -> field coil #1 -> brush to commutator to brush -> field coil #2 -> Neutral Ensure the brushes move freely in their holders and that they are not installed 90 degrees off. CLICK HERE TO GO TO MadMan's LINK |
Post# 435797 , Reply# 10   12/3/2020 at 07:52 (1,239 days old) by Jake1234 (greasby)   |   | |
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So do you put the neutral on the last field coil wire then? Sorry to seem so dumb but I have just totally lost it and have got myself so confused with it. |
Post# 435836 , Reply# 11   12/4/2020 at 07:32 (1,238 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)   |   | |
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Hello Jake, Good luck with the new armature. How's the condition of the top sleeve bearing? Regards, Walter. |
Post# 435874 , Reply# 12   12/5/2020 at 01:59 (1,237 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Yes, basically. One wire from field coil #1 should be line, the other should be a brush. And one wire from field coil #2 should be neutral, and the other a brush. The picture I linked in my previous reply should really explain it much better than I can in words. As long as it's wired this way, it will work, however, the rotation can be changed if you mix the coils up. Not a big deal. You know, I wonder if that's what you did the first time, and it didn't run well because the brushes were effectively 'in backwards.'
Bear in mind this is only a general description, I'm not sure if this particular machine is wired differently. However, as long as it's a series wired motor, you could, in theory, wire it any which way as long as all coils are in series, and it would work. |
Post# 435944 , Reply# 15   12/5/2020 at 21:32 (1,236 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 435948 , Reply# 16   12/5/2020 at 21:48 (1,236 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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It's the field coil. They put balancers on field coils. If you cleaned the vacuum you probably took off the balancer piece as you thought it doesn't look like it should be there.
I'd call it more than a hunch. I'd stop messing around with the wiring. Replace the field coil. If you don't and I'm correct you will basically catch the vacuum on fire and it will melt the motor. The flames are blue purple and the copper is dark green. Make sure the field coil is for the armature you have. This sounds exactly what happened to me with 2 dual sanitronic 80s. If I knew it was the field coil I would have 2 sweet machines. |